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I understand there could be a huge difference between what the Cubs would give for Hammels straight up and what he will actually go for.

 

 

What do you think cubs give straight up for him? What would it take if the Phils paid a portion of the remaining contract?

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What makes this trade absolutely the greatest of all time is we're sending cash to THEM.

 

And there's no doubt in my mind that some here didnt even get to the end of the proposal to see that wonderful nugget.

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Not many buy low arms I'm really interested right now, but who am I lol. Anyway it is a short list of guys who have not been cut open, have struggled, but have carried top notch scouting reports throughout the pros. Daniel Norris/Taijuran Walker/Kevin Gausman/Jon Gray/Tyler Beede/Mark Appel...Maybe I'm forgetting a couple, but anyway not sure any one of those guys would actually be available for anything but a ML player at the deadline. I threw out the whole selling Hammel to the Blue Jays thing to kick around at some point. I think that is the kind of trade that would get you one of those buy low arms worth having. Would much rather deal from prospects, which the Cubs have way more of....Otoh, I'm most definitely talking out of my ass.

 

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Trading for Gausman and fixing him would be awesome, but at that point I'd almost feel bad for so thoroughly taking advantage of the Orioles. I don't know if we match up all that well with them though.

 

I just don't see the Gausman fit. In general, I'd be surprised if they dealt Gausman for anything other than a controllable, high level arm that they can control for a few years (basically, using Gausman as a part of a package for a top young starter). Beyond that, their needs don't mesh that well with us. They could look for corner OF, 1st, and maybe C, positionally, but they probably are searching for arms moreso than anything, with Bundy/Harvey dinged up, and Wei-Yin Chen likely on his way out next year (as, barring injury, he should be in line for a big deal).

 

He needs to improve his breaking ball ... but he's been needing to do that since his LSU days. For some guys, it just never happens. Obviously, he's still young enough that you never know, but the biggest issue with the Orioles run for Gausman has been the way he's been jerked around. They have some solid pitching coaches in Baltimore (Dave Wallace being the big league pitching coach), but it's been their plan with Gausman. He was simply rushed too fast when the breaking ball was an issue dating back to college, and then being jerked between the pen/rotation, and majors/minors, didn't help.

I wonder how much they'd value Zagunis? Not that Zagunis alone is likely enough but he could be a very solid 2nd piece or headliner with a 2-3 other guys.

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He means MLB help, the Orioles would consider trading Gausman as part of an improvement to the big league roster. As much as dealing Gausman feels like a give up move, they've screwed with him so much that he isn't currently impacting the MLB team.
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He means MLB help, the Orioles would consider trading Gausman as part of an improvement to the big league roster. As much as dealing Gausman feels like a give up move, they've screwed with him so much that he isn't currently impacting the MLB team.

Got it, my bad. I guess it's more of an offseason trade then.

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Is this video game-esque blockbuster with the Padres at all realistic:

 

Cubs get

J. Upton

Kemp

Shields

 

Padres get:

Soler

Baez

Castro

Coghlan

McKinney

Wood

Edwards

Cash

 

Cubs get some win now help, Padres get a partial bail out of their little experiment and a restock of young players.

 

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l255/EsperDerek/tradeinsults.jpg

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Is this video game-esque blockbuster with the Padres at all realistic:

 

Cubs get

J. Upton

Kemp

Shields

 

Padres get:

Soler

Baez

Castro

Coghlan

McKinney

Wood

Edwards

Cash

 

Cubs get some win now help, Padres get a partial bail out of their little experiment and a restock of young players.

 

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l255/EsperDerek/tradeinsults.jpg

 

I'll take that as a no. But if broken down like this:

 

Baez, Edwards, McKinney for a few months of Upton with intent to extend.

 

Soler, Castro, Coghlan, Wood for Kemp who's been very good the past month or so) and Shields.

 

I actually toyed with the idea of adding Gyorko to our pot, but I don't know how down on him they are or how up on him anyone else is.

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I'll take that as a no. But if broken down like this:

 

Baez, Edwards, McKinney for a few months of Upton with intent to extend.

 

Soler, Castro, Coghlan, Wood for Kemp who's been very good the past month or so) and Shields.

 

Also extremely hard no. Maybe if you took out the best Cubs player in both those deals. And maybe if we forgot Kemp existed altogether.

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LLF, in addition to the fact that the talent is unevenly skewed towards the Padres, the financial situations for Shields and Kemp are extreme. Both players are owed a TON of money that extremely limits their trade value (and in Kemp's case, especially, has negative value). The fact the Cubs would be the ones throwing in money on that deal is the part that is especially crazy.

 

That said, I appreciate the creativity and effort, regardless. Keep on doing you.

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Dear WSR,

 

I would sincerely hope that Theo, if given the option, would pay you the league minimum and keep you on the active roster for an entire season before inheriting [expletive] Matt [expletive] Kemp's deal.

 

Signed,

 

Anyone with a [expletive] clue

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Lol I love that splitting up so that we would be trading anything at all for Matt Kemp was supposed to make it make sense
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lmao that breakdown should go down in nsbb lore
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I'm no scientist, but if there's a chance that 24 year old Matt Kemp was cryogenically frozen and we've checked to make sure there wouldn't be hard feelings throughout baseball when we unfroze his ass, then THAT part of the deal starts to make sense. Admittedly, I'm unsure of the CBA's stance on this, so it may be a no go.

 

If that happens to be the case, we can always check to see if he was frozen in carbonite by a bounty hunter. I'm thinking PTR may have issues paying Jabba off though and if not, I'm not sure there's a clause inside our agreement with Zell that'd allow for it anyway. May be time to ask Gordo though. Because having a wookie around could create extra revenue streams we previously hadn't thought of.

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Is this video game-esque blockbuster with the Padres at all realistic:

 

Cubs get

J. Upton

Kemp

Shields

 

Padres get:

Soler

Baez

Castro

Coghlan

McKinney

Wood

Edwards

Cash

 

Cubs get some win now help, Padres get a partial bail out of their little experiment and a restock of young players.

Am I missing the green font or something?

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Is this video game-esque blockbuster with the Padres at all realistic:

 

Cubs get

J. Upton

Kemp

Shields

 

Padres get:

Soler

Baez

Castro

Coghlan

McKinney

Wood

Edwards

Cash

 

Cubs get some win now help, Padres get a partial bail out of their little experiment and a restock of young players.

 

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l255/EsperDerek/tradeinsults.jpg

Aaaaaaaaand now I'm gonna spend the next 3 hours playing Baseball Mogul.

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I'm not sure as to the origin of those trade offer responses, but I do know they are incredible.

 

baseball mogul you n00b

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lmao that breakdown should go down in nsbb lore

 

I would agree but it needed to have Greyfer Eregua included in the deal to put it completely over the top for me.

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