What's your wish list for the trade deadline?

[Hairyducked Idiot]

ugh you quoted me before i edited to 2013, but nevertheless, yes, he would want credit for a 97 win team. it's not like it was the 06 cardinals.

 

That was the only playoff year in the four since he left. Is that what we have to look forward to after his run here?

[SouthSideRyan]

And hell, if we're not gonna give Theo any credit for the 2012 Red Sox, we should probably give Hoyer credit for the 90 win Padres who you also include in that little bit of trivia.

 

The 2012 Red Sox were terrible.

[Guest]

And hell, if we're not gonna give Theo any credit for the 2012 Red Sox, we should probably give Hoyer credit for the 90 win Padres who you also include in that little bit of trivia.

 

The 2012 Red Sox were terrible.

 

oh damn you

[Hairyducked Idiot]

We're getting off track here. The point is that whatever the contract looks like today is definitive. So Theo should feel very, very bad about that Castro extension.

[Guest]

We're getting off track here. The point is that whatever the contract looks like today is definitive. So Theo should feel very, very bad about that Castro extension.

 

or someone who liked the castro deal at the time could also have liked the carrasco deal at the time and still enjoy rubbing it in your face when it turns out well too.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

We're getting off track here. The point is that whatever the contract looks like today is definitive. So Theo should feel very, very bad about that Castro extension.

 

or someone who liked the castro deal at the time could also have liked the carrasco deal at the time and still enjoy rubbing it in your face when it turns out well too.

 

So wait, the entire point was to "rub it in my face"? How petty and sad. I feel bad for anyone who would do that.

[Guest]

We're getting off track here. The point is that whatever the contract looks like today is definitive. So Theo should feel very, very bad about that Castro extension.

 

or someone who liked the castro deal at the time could also have liked the carrasco deal at the time and still enjoy rubbing it in your face when it turns out well too.

 

So wait, the entire point was to "rub it in my face"? How petty and sad. I feel bad for anyone who would do that.

 

not sad. petty and fun.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

not sad. petty and fun.

 

For his sake, I hope so.

[Tracer Bullet]

this is insufferable. just stop.

[Guest]

Unless there's a deal to be had for Gomez, there isn't a CF out there I'm convinced isn't a downgrade from Fowler ROS. Speaking of which, ZiPS ROS has a 40 point gap in wOBA between Hicks and Fowler, that's way more than any defensive difference.

[Proven Veteran]

Unless there's a deal to be had for Gomez, there isn't a CF out there I'm convinced isn't a downgrade from Fowler ROS. Speaking of which, ZiPS ROS has a 40 point gap in wOBA between Hicks and Fowler, that's way more than any defensive difference.

 

 

Pollock?

[davell]

If Fowler comes back to wind up near his normal numbers, we don't have a need here and he's been very solid since the break(8-24, 7 walks). I'm completely OK riding out the season with him myself.

 

If we add a position player, I still want Zobrist. He can basically play 5 times a week just by giving guys an off day quite often. Plus, it'd keep him off the Mets or Giants who could both use him as well. Outside of a guy who can play multiple spots, I'm OK just addressing pitching.

[tfarks]

Price, zobrist and Papelbon.

[Proven Veteran]

If Fowler comes back to wind up near his normal numbers, we don't have a need here and he's been very solid since the break(8-24, 7 walks). I'm completely OK riding out the season with him myself.

 

If we add a position player, I still want Zobrist. He can basically play 5 times a week just by giving guys an off day quite often. Plus, it'd keep him off the Mets or Giants who could both use him as well. Outside of a guy who can play multiple spots, I'm OK just addressing pitching.

 

 

The walks for Fowler have been encouraging. I thought at least he would have a high OBP.

[Guest]

Unless there's a deal to be had for Gomez, there isn't a CF out there I'm convinced isn't a downgrade from Fowler ROS. Speaking of which, ZiPS ROS has a 40 point gap in wOBA between Hicks and Fowler, that's way more than any defensive difference.

 

 

Pollock?

 

Sure, he'd be great. Outside of 'DStew be crazay' I'm not sure there's much reason to believe he might be available though.

[abohnhoff]

Charlie Blackmon would be a great addition, albeit fairly expensive considering he's not a FA until after 2019.

[davell]

http://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/7/71/819231/scott-kazmir-trade-astros-impact-cubs

 

Wittenmyer brings up Teheran, Zobrist, rentals.....Seems to think Hamels is a long shot, same with Price.

[Guest]

Ooh, Teheran is intriguing. Any more info on his potential rift with coaching/management?

[davell]

I just googled it and found nothing. What was it about?

[Proven Veteran]

Unless there's a deal to be had for Gomez, there isn't a CF out there I'm convinced isn't a downgrade from Fowler ROS. Speaking of which, ZiPS ROS has a 40 point gap in wOBA between Hicks and Fowler, that's way more than any defensive difference.

 

 

Pollock?

 

Sure, he'd be great. Outside of 'DStew be crazay' I'm not sure there's much reason to believe he might be available though.

 

Bad team, crazy management, there's always a chance. I'm mostly looking for players that can be here for a while, CF is a good spot for that.

[davell]

Matt Harrison or Martin Perez interest anyone? They're both back from injury. I wouldn't want either one if it's ALL we did, but if Texas would trade either, I'd be interested for next season....

 

Allen Webster seems to be pitiful in AAA this season, I'd take the proverbial "flyer" on him, if he'd be super cheap and I could definitely see Stewart giving him away basically.

 

I know he wouldn't come cheap whatsoever, but I'd wonder what Seattle would want for Walker, since he's struggling....

 

Rubby De La Rosa still interests me too, no idea what Stewart thinks of him now.

 

Just trying to bring up reclamation types for next year much moreso than counting on these guys now obviously. Tried not to mention Gausman or anyone else who's kind of been talked about somewhat.

[ARCubsFan]

Matt Harrison has had 2 serious injuries in the last few years. No thanks.

[Guest]

Matt Harrison or Martin Perez interest anyone? They're both back from injury. I wouldn't want either one if it's ALL we did, but if Texas would trade either, I'd be interested for next season....

 

Allen Webster seems to be pitiful in AAA this season, I'd take the proverbial "flyer" on him, if he'd be super cheap and I could definitely see Stewart giving him away basically.

 

I know he wouldn't come cheap whatsoever, but I'd wonder what Seattle would want for Walker, since he's struggling....

 

Rubby De La Rosa still interests me too, no idea what Stewart thinks of him now.

 

Just trying to bring up reclamation types for next year much moreso than counting on these guys now obviously. Tried not to mention Gausman or anyone else who's kind of been talked about somewhat.

 

The good thing is that even if they're the only pitching acquisition, the bar to improvement('better than Clayton Richard') is not a high one.

 

While I don't think Stewart is going to trade Pollock(he'd have to really love Inciarte or hate Pollock for some reason), I am interested in what he thinks of the rotation. I've always had a soft spot for Webster.

 

With Texas, I don't have much interest in Harrison or Perez(maybe this offseason with Perez), although I'd be happy to liberate Nick Tepesch since they clearly have no interest in giving him a rotation shot. EDIT: Oh, Tepesch is shut down with an elbow injury, screw pitchers.

[Bruno7481]

Gordo says no way on Hamels due to budget reasons. Kaplan says Cubs are strongly pursuing Hamels. Both posted their stories within a couple hours of one another.

 

I wonder if they can both be wrong?

[davell]

Well, even if there are budget restraints, he could still be had if they kicked in money.