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I've posted something similar to this before, but I woke up this morning and the prospect of this lineup being a reality just has me positively salivating.

 

1. 2B-L- Sign Dee Gordon after this season when he becomes a free agent, I don't care about the price

2. 3B-R- Bryant

3. 1B-L- Rizzo

4. RF-R- Soler

5. C-L- Schwarber

6. SS-R- Russell

7. CF-L- Billy McKinney

8. P

9. LF-S- Ben Zobrist

 

Do you think we could come up with a package that would get Billy Beane to give us Zobrist and Sonny Gray if we offered Castro, Baez, Almora, Underwood, Alcantara?

 

And do you think we could sign David Price?

 

That would leave our starting staff looking like:

 

1. RHP Sonny Gray

2. LHP Jon Lester

3. RHP Jake Arrieta

4. LHP David Price

5. RHP Jason Hammel

 

The least likely part of my plan is to get Billy Beane in on that trade, but if that happened the rest is just FA signings. I dunno, it's just a running idea I have.

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I don't know what it costs to get Gray, but if he can be had I'm on board.

 

Zobrist is a free agent after this year, but Dee Gordon is not for another 3 years.

 

Billy McKinney isn't going to be a major league option in center field.

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[expletive] you're right about Gordon. I looked it up before and just saw one year under contract. Didn't realize (or didn't want to realize) that there were the arbitration years.
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didn't they (either theo or hoyer) pretty specifically allude to signing/acquiring two 9 figure type starting pitchers in the next two years at the beginning of last offseason?
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didn't they (either theo or hoyer) pretty specifically allude to signing/acquiring two 9 figure type starting pitchers in the next two years at the beginning of last offseason?

 

I thought so. You have to figure if they're going to do it, it will be this offseason so they don't have a ton of overlap in paying the pitchers' last few years while also ponying up for Bryant, Rusell, etc...

 

But if you do sign a guy like Price, that's it, that's pretty much your team for the next 5 years. Not necessarily bad as we can assume the position players will improve as they age, but they have to make sure they're comfortable with guys like Soler, Castro, and Russell and that they can find a home for Schwarber and McKinnie because they're not going to have another $100MM to sign a guy like Heyward or whoever else if they have Lester & Price and inevitably have to pay Bryant the big $$$ and possibly give another contract to Rizzo at some point.

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My #1 wish for the trade deadline is that the cubs find an excuse to get DFA or get rid of..

 

Wood

EJAX

Ross

Strop

Fowler

 

That is a bizarre wish. None of those guys is hurting the Cubs right now and none of them are in the way of a better player.

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DFA Strop? What in the [expletive]?
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didn't they (either theo or hoyer) pretty specifically allude to signing/acquiring two 9 figure type starting pitchers in the next two years at the beginning of last offseason?

 

Yep, though acquiring was the favored word. I expect a trade, a big trade.

 

I posted once before that I hope the Cubs do make a big deal this year before some of our trade chips (Castro, Baez, Alcantara, etc.) lose their trade value. The right deal at the deadline could set us up for 2016-2020. This year's team has been fun to watch, but you can see the pieces aren't all in place yet for serious contention.

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didn't they (either theo or hoyer) pretty specifically allude to signing/acquiring two 9 figure type starting pitchers in the next two years at the beginning of last offseason?

 

that was right before rtr said he was going to the corner store for cigarettes

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didn't they (either theo or hoyer) pretty specifically allude to signing/acquiring two 9 figure type starting pitchers in the next two years at the beginning of last offseason?

 

Yep, though acquiring was the favored word. I expect a trade, a big trade.

 

1. Lester

2. Price

 

Price, Lester, Arrieta, Hammel, Hendricks would be a sufficient-ish rotation, right?

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From MLBTR:

In a mailbag piece, Patrick Saunders of the Denver Post writes that he can envision Carlos Gonzalez, Charlie Blackmon, Wilin Rosario and John Axford being traded in the next two weeks. Though Nick Hundley appears to be a classic trade candidate — he’s hitting well in the first season of an affordable two-year deal — Saunders writes that he’s emerged as a strong presence in the clubhouse, which upper management may not want to lose. Blackmon would make an intriguing trade candidate, though his struggles against lefties and significant home/road splits throughout his career would seem like potential hindrances to his trade value, in my mind.

 

Blackmon would be a perfect addition: platoon with Fowler, can play all 3 OF positions, reasonably young, controllable until 2019.

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I don't think we have available/are willing to spend the money it will take to get Price.

 

After the season, we free up Fowler (9.5MM) Wada (4MM) and Denorfia (2.6MM.) We can NT Wood, who currently makes 5.685MM, and after next season, Edwin's 13MM is off the books.

 

Arrieta's likely due a hefty raise, and in the not too distant future, Bryant, Russell, Soler, and maybe Hendricks. Of course there will be holes to fill, but we should understand how huge it is to have a player like Rizzo locked up as cheap as we do, and the same can be said for Castro if he's not dead.

 

Short version: we do.

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I don't think we have available/are willing to spend the money it will take to get Price.

 

After the season, we free up Fowler (9.5MM) Wada (4MM) and Denorfia (2.6MM.) We can NT Wood, who currently makes 5.685MM, and after next season, Edwin's 13MM is off the books.

 

Arrieta's likely due a hefty raise, and in the not too distant future, Bryant, Russell, Soler, and maybe Hendricks. Of course there will be holes to fill, but we should understand how huge it is to have a player like Rizzo locked up as cheap as we do, and the same can be said for Castro if he's not dead.

 

Short version: we do.

 

Oh, thanks for clearing that up.

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The Charlie Blackmon(trade) and Dee Gordon(trade) ideas are interesting and I'd add Jose Quintana from the White Sox, who are LH-heavy.

I'm a big fan of Quintana. Control through 2020 with a great contract. I wouldn't trade Schwarber, but I'd trade any other minor leaguers they wanted.

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In the hypothetical event that Castro ends up being shopped and even traded, that obviously opens the door for a Russell/Baez MI, but in the event that they opt to keep Baez down because he struggles in his return from the DL, would Jed Lowrie be a worthwhile target? He's likely returning from the DL near the trade deadline, or a little after (rehabbing now, but not in games yet), and with Correa and Altuve in the MI in Houston, he has no place to play unless they move him to 3B, which he hasn't played since 2011 (and didn't really play regularly since 2008 before that).

 

Would he be a wise target? Signed through 2017 with a 2018 club option on a very reasonable deal. At the very least he could probably provide better offense than Castro would this year, and if we decide to give the spot to Baez or Russell after this season, he can be used as a pretty good bargaining chip.

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The Charlie Blackmon(trade) and Dee Gordon(trade) ideas are interesting and I'd add Jose Quintana from the White Sox, who are LH-heavy.

 

Who the [expletive] wants Dee Gordon? And why

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The Charlie Blackmon(trade) and Dee Gordon(trade) ideas are interesting and I'd add Jose Quintana from the White Sox, who are LH-heavy.

 

Who the [expletive] wants Dee Gordon? And why

 

I agree. Dee Gordon is the closest thing this generation of baseball will have to Juan Pierre. And we don't want Juan Pierre. Gordon's numbers are bloated due to a hot start.

 

Opening day through May 31st:

48 G .377/.405/.444/.849 78 H 10-2B 2-3B 10 BB 31 K 20 SB

 

Ever since:

36 G .286/.295/.370/.665 44 H 6-2B 2-3B 1 HR 2 BB 31 K 13 SB

 

Gordon is smoke and mirrors. He's also been caught stealing 12 times, giving him a 73% success rate, which is pretty bad.

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isn't 73% pretty good in this run environment

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