What's your wish list for the trade deadline?

[SouthSideRyan]

I don't even understand what he's trying to say(or care I guess)

[SouthSideRyan]

Cleveland with Bauer, Salazar, or Kluber? Atlanta with Miller, Teheran, or Wood?

 

We've talked about Gray, If the White Sox would deal with us, Quintana is an option(just don't see it though). Baltimore could deal Gausman....

 

 

I don't understand why any of these teams would trade these players.

[davell]

Cleveland with Bauer, Salazar, or Kluber? Atlanta with Miller, Teheran, or Wood?

 

We've talked about Gray, If the White Sox would deal with us, Quintana is an option(just don't see it though). Baltimore could deal Gausman....

 

 

I don't understand why any of these teams would trade these players.

 

Baltimore is down on Gausman. With Atlanta acquiring so many arms, I figure it's at least plausible for them to trade one of their major league arms for multiple bats.

 

Cleveland? No reason for them too, unless they feel Kluber has peaked and want to sell high.

[KingCubsFan]

Cleveland with Bauer, Salazar, or Kluber? Atlanta with Miller, Teheran, or Wood?

 

We've talked about Gray, If the White Sox would deal with us, Quintana is an option(just don't see it though). Baltimore could deal Gausman....

 

 

I don't understand why any of these teams would trade these players.

The White Sox have a historically bad offense with a maxed out payroll and no hope in the minors. Getting something like Baez, McKinney and another interesting bat like Zagunis could be intriguing for them.

[Liam Neeson]

I want the Mets slide to continue so that their need for bats outweigh their need to hold on to Syndergaard.

 

So my wish list for the deadline would be Syndergaard and Neil Ramirez to come back healthy.

Edited June 25, 2015 by Liam Neeson

[imb]

Cleveland with Bauer, Salazar, or Kluber? Atlanta with Miller, Teheran, or Wood?

 

We've talked about Gray, If the White Sox would deal with us, Quintana is an option(just don't see it though). Baltimore could deal Gausman....

 

 

I don't understand why any of these teams would trade these players.

 

havent the braves come out and said that they would listen on teheran

[SouthSideRyan]

Cleveland with Bauer, Salazar, or Kluber? Atlanta with Miller, Teheran, or Wood?

 

We've talked about Gray, If the White Sox would deal with us, Quintana is an option(just don't see it though). Baltimore could deal Gausman....

 

 

I don't understand why any of these teams would trade these players.

 

havent the braves come out and said that they would listen on teheran

 

Can't find anything. It would be peculiar given his contract, though he hasn't been too good this year, and was extended under a prior regime.

[toonsterwu]

In terms of a wish list, I won't lie - a part of me would, after pen arm, love an impact bat (likely LF) if they commit to Schwarber as a catcher. I feel like that would give the lineup added depth, and I think in a series, the idea of Lester/Arrieta/Hammel isn't all that bad. That said, I don't find it particularly likely that they pursue a bat. The likely impact bats will be too costly, and it's debatable if the 2nd tier bats would be better than a Coghlan.

 

In terms of trying to think of other names on the SP/RP/versatile positional asset thoughts (to be clear, this isn't a wish/dream list of any sort ... not that I would be against adding any of these guys) -

 

Ryan Raburn - I'm not sure if the Indians will sell, although they probably should. If they did, he might be a cheap option to consider, someone that could perhaps platoon with Coghlan and be thought of as a pseudo-versatile player (realistically, both guys are OF's now, but you could probably live with them in the IF in an emergency situation).

 

Wade Miley - Wittenmeyer indicated (iirc) young and controllable. It seems quite likely that the Cubs and Red Sox could view starters in similar fashion. The Red Sox likely have to clear a spot or two. Joe Kelly is gone already (although he could be back up in the pen ... I'd love to see him in short burst pen role like Zach Britton), and it's possible they clear another space. I'd ask about Buchholz first, but Buchholz could be costly. Would they move Miley, who is signed for a relative cheap amount? Dunno, but if they did, he'd be a nice 4/5 option.

 

Koji Uehara - I think Papelbon is still the most likely pen arm to go to the Cubs, but Uehara might be a fallback option if the Red Sox really sell.

 

Andrew Cashner - Okay ... just throwing this name out there for a second. I doubt they move him (think it's more likely they move say, Ian Kennedy perhaps)... but Cashner's getting expensive soon, and they have a lot of money committed. Shields is signed down, Ross is their key arm for the future. Could they perhaps ponder moving Cashner a year early to restock the system? Again, just spitballing names. As a 3rd option in the rotation ... I'd be fine with it (same goes for a Jeff Samardzija).

 

A lot of other possibilities, and for a creative front office, this should lead to some fun speculation in the coming weeks.

[toonsterwu]

Skimming the above - I don't see any chance Baltimore deals Gausman unless the deal is such a huge win for them. They are trying to get him into the rotation permanently, and with their FA's this winter, he will be in the rotation, barring a surprise. All indications in the Baltimore area in the past month seem to be that they are still rather high on him and view him as a key asset for the future, particularly with Bundy still having issues.

 

Now, I wouldn't be surprised if Baltimore dealt a SP to fill another area, thus opening up a space for Gausman.

 

I could see Atlanta moving Teheran, but a part of me isn't all that enthused. (I could see Atlanta move anyone if the price was right that it helps with their rebuild)

[Little Slide Rooter]

[expletive], I had no idea how good Quintana had been. And signed through 2020 on a team friendly deal. I'd just as soon pick up a rental and sign someone in the offseason than give up what it would take.

 

If their rotation of the not too distant future is Sale, Rodon, Quintana, and Fulmer, with Robertson closing, they might not need an offense. And lord help the AL Central if they manage to extend Samardzjia on to of that.

[sneakypower]

Now, I wouldn't be surprised if Baltimore dealt a SP to fill another area, thus opening up a space for Gausman.

Hunter Harvey & Dylan Bundy are both seeing Dr. Andrews this week, so i have to imagine they hold onto Gausman in light of that

[Backtobanks]

From MLBTR:

The Cubs have considered dealing for Mets left-hander Jon Niese, although they might also aim higher. The salary remaining on Niese’s current deal (he’ll make $9MM next year, plus a $500K buyout or $10MM option in 2016) might also be a slight obstacle to trading him.

[Him]

From MLBTR:

The Cubs have considered dealing for Mets left-hander Jon Niese, although they might also aim higher. The salary remaining on Niese’s current deal (he’ll make $9MM next year, plus a $500K buyout or $10MM option in 2016) might also be a slight obstacle to trading him.

 

Right division, right handedness, wrong team and player

 

The guy gets $9 mil next year... And $10 mil or a buyout? Can I hire his agent to work my next deal?

[Alien11]

From MLBTR:

The Cubs have considered dealing for Mets left-hander Jon Niese, although they might also aim higher. The salary remaining on Niese’s current deal (he’ll make $9MM next year, plus a $500K buyout or $10MM option in 2016) might also be a slight obstacle to trading him.

 

Right division, right handedness, wrong team and player

 

The guy gets $9 mil next year... And $10 mil or a buyout? Can I hire his agent to work my next deal?

 

No to Niese for that kind of money, but since the Marlins will be in sell mode after Stanton's injury I hope we can target Dee Gordon. It depends to see how Javy does after he comes back and if Theo is willing to move Castro for pitching that was surmised early in the year, but Gordon is on a 1yr 2.5MM contract with a lot to prove and his stats show. He may be better at leading off than Fowler. Plus he will be entering his prime years since he will be 28 next year.

[Cubswin11]

Dee Gordon [expletive] sucks when he's not BABIPing 400+

[Sammy Sofa]

Dee Gordon [expletive] sucks when he's not BABIPing 400+

 

Eh; he was pretty good last year, too. I have no real desire to add him, but even with BABIP regression he's probably still pretty useful.

[Clem Fandango]

From MLBTR:

The Cubs have considered dealing for Mets left-hander Jon Niese, although they might also aim higher. The salary remaining on Niese’s current deal (he’ll make $9MM next year, plus a $500K buyout or $10MM option in 2016) might also be a slight obstacle to trading him.

 

Right division, right handedness, wrong team and player

 

The guy gets $9 mil next year... And $10 mil or a buyout? Can I hire his agent to work my next deal?

 

That's seriously like the most common thing. Like nearly every contract with an option year has a buy out.

[Alien11]

Dee Gordon [expletive] sucks when he's not BABIPing 400+

 

Gordon is currently at .424 BABIP and a 3.2 WAR already this year which was his WAR with the Dodgers before being traded. He is a good risk for possibly a couple of mid-level prospects or possible one mid and one low. I won't say to trade the farm for him, but his upside looks good.

[Him]

From MLBTR:

The Cubs have considered dealing for Mets left-hander Jon Niese, although they might also aim higher. The salary remaining on Niese’s current deal (he’ll make $9MM next year, plus a $500K buyout or $10MM option in 2016) might also be a slight obstacle to trading him.

 

Right division, right handedness, wrong team and player

 

The guy gets $9 mil next year... And $10 mil or a buyout? Can I hire his agent to work my next deal?

 

That's seriously like the most common thing. Like nearly every contract with an option year has a buy out.

 

I was referring to MLBTR saying $9 mil next year and $10 mil/buyout for 2016. Next year = 2016.

[Alien11]

From MLBTR:

The Cubs have considered dealing for Mets left-hander Jon Niese, although they might also aim higher. The salary remaining on Niese’s current deal (he’ll make $9MM next year, plus a $500K buyout or $10MM option in 2016) might also be a slight obstacle to trading him.

 

Right division, right handedness, wrong team and player

 

The guy gets $9 mil next year... And $10 mil or a buyout? Can I hire his agent to work my next deal?

 

That's seriously like the most common thing. Like nearly every contract with an option year has a buy out.

 

I was referring to MLBTR saying $9 mil next year and $10 mil/buyout for 2016. Next year = 2016.

 

The contract is still no good if we trade prospects for basically a rental. Theo's plan has always been long term, so I think he will trade for something more long term anyway. As was said earlier, it's the wrong player to trade for.

[Clem Fandango]

And Jon Niese might be the most boring acquisition ever.

[Alien11]

And Jon Niese might be the most boring acquisition ever.

 

For what our prospects can get and the name Jon Niese, yes.

[Guest]

Niese is somewhat interesting as Bosio bait, and in the abstract he's a fine back end addition if you want to buy low(Niese really shouldn't require anything of value at all). The problem is that unless you're stone cold convinced that Niese+Bosio equals a big turnaround, you still have similar rotation uncertainties, and trading for someone else on top of Niese limits the utility because 1) he probably needs innings to see if Bosio can fix him 2) he can't be sent down and 3) one of the reasons he's available is that he's not very happy to be the 6th/7th man on the totem pole in New York.

 

Basically, Niese is Felix Doubront, if Doubront was also owed a decent chunk of guaranteed money when the Cubs traded for him. If you think he'll be agreeable to potentially getting DFA'd if something better comes along then go for it, he shouldn't require any talent worth holding on to. If you don't think he's getting back to his glory days and/or he'll be a malcontent as a swingman/rotation depth, there's little reason to bother.

[Little Slide Rooter]

And Jon Niese might be the most boring acquisition ever.

 

Steve Traschel.

Matt Lawton.

Craig Monroe.

John Grabow.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Niese is somewhat interesting as Bosio bait, and in the abstract he's a fine back end addition if you want to buy low(Niese really shouldn't require anything of value at all). The problem is that unless you're stone cold convinced that Niese+Bosio equals a big turnaround, you still have similar rotation uncertainties, and trading for someone else on top of Niese limits the utility because 1) he probably needs innings to see if Bosio can fix him 2) he can't be sent down and 3) one of the reasons he's available is that he's not very happy to be the 6th/7th man on the totem pole in New York.

 

Basically, Niese is Felix Doubront, if Doubront was also owed a decent chunk of guaranteed money when the Cubs traded for him. If you think he'll be agreeable to potentially getting DFA'd if something better comes along then go for it, he shouldn't require any talent worth holding on to. If you don't think he's getting back to his glory days and/or he'll be a malcontent as a swingman/rotation depth, there's little reason to bother.

 

But with Felix Dubront, at least there was that glimmer of hope that he could become something better than Felix Doubront. And at the time, the goal was still to audition as many guys as possible in hopes of striking gold, or at least filling holes.

 

Jon Niese is just Jon Niese. And our goal is to win games. And I'm not certain that Jon Niese is any better at that than Travis Wood or Edwin Jackson.