What's your wish list for the trade deadline?

[downsr30]

The White Sox will not need to go into a full rebuild if they do choose to claim this year a loss. Trading guys like Sale who is on an extremely team friendly contract through 2017 wouldn't make any sense at all. Quintana is another cheap pitcher for them through 2018. If and when the White Sox fold, look for them to shop guys like Alexei Ramirez, David Robertson, Samardjiza, Duke, LaRoche, Danks, Cabrera and Bonafacio. I could definitely see them finding homes for Ramirez, Duke, Robertson, Samardjiza and Bonafacio simply because their contracts aren't horrible and/or there's a demand for their services and performance.

 

All those guys make $ and some have value and are tradable and some aren't at all (Danks) unless they eat significant salary.

 

 

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[KrisBryantisaBeast]

My top want is a starting pitcher to take Wada spot in the rotation even though he was good yesterday. They should probably target one of the rentals whether it's Kazmir or Cueto or someone along those lines.

A bullpen arm use to be my top want but with Ramirez and Soriano on the way I think that's less of a necessity. I certainly wouldn't complain if they traded for someone like Chapman or Papelbon to close out games though.

A guy like Zobrist who can play multiple positions which will allow us to give guys like Soler and our other young guys days off when they need them.

[Guest]

i think kazmir would be a great target for that 5th spot.

[Guest]

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[Tryptamine]

I can't believe how many of you want Clippard. He has been absolutely awful this year. 5.35xFIP 3.80FIP, walks are way way up,Ks are down, GBs have been cut in half. He's giving up the 2nd highest LD% of his career and 63.6FB%. Once it eventually gets warm, he's going to get torched in Wrigley.

 

I'd like to snag one of Sonny Gray,Danny Salazar,Tyson Ross or to a cheaper extend Zach McAllister.

[Tyrant]

I'm not saying keep those guys because they're all going to be useful on the Cubs for the next 10 years, in fact those 3 are the right prospects to be traded, IMO. My point is use their value on something more lasting than a handful of rentals, none of which are dominant at their position.

 

zobrist is struggling at the moment coming back from injury but he's been been a 5 war player 5 of the last 6 years. sounds pretty dominant to me.

[Guest]

I'm not saying keep those guys because they're all going to be useful on the Cubs for the next 10 years, in fact those 3 are the right prospects to be traded, IMO. My point is use their value on something more lasting than a handful of rentals, none of which are dominant at their position.

 

zobrist is struggling at the moment coming back from injury but he's been been a 5 war player 5 of the last 6 years. sounds pretty dominant to me.

 

That's largely due to positional adjustments for positions he cannot play any longer, cannot play for the Cubs, or both. Zobrist as LF and substitute IF is not all that much better(one could make an argument not better at all) than the current options.

[davell]

I want Zobrist more as insurance than anything. My honest guess is even with us getting tied to him as much as we are, someone else will far outbid us for him.

[KrisBryantisaBeast]

I can't believe how many of you want Clippard. He has been absolutely awful this year. 5.35xFIP 3.80FIP, walks are way way up,Ks are down, GBs have been cut in half. He's giving up the 2nd highest LD% of his career and 63.6FB%. Once it eventually gets warm, he's going to get torched in Wrigley.

 

I'd like to snag one of Sonny Gray,Danny Salazar,Tyson Ross or to a cheaper extend Zach McAllister.

 

I am not really interested in Clippard. I think with Ramirez and Soriano coming soon the only pen arm we should be interested in if we are even interested in any at this point would be an elite closer like Chapman or Papelbon. Someone we can put in the 9th inning of meaningful games and not have to worry about him blowing it would be nice. Clippard wouldn't be that guy so I'd pass on him.

[Jazz]

Change of subject, but what are you guys thinking as far as trade chips

 

Do we take advantage of some of our ML ready pieces for a contender?

Do we overwhelm a rebuilding team with a "variety" pack of young options that are 3.5-4.5 stars?

Is there anyone who is untouchable for you? Who would you trade Russell/Schwarber for?

[Guest]

Change of subject, but what are you guys thinking as far as trade chips

 

Do we take advantage of some of our ML ready pieces for a contender?

Do we overwhelm a rebuilding team with a "variety" pack of young options that are 3.5-4.5 stars?

Is there anyone who is untouchable for you? Who would you trade Russell/Schwarber for?

 

Russell is about as close to untouchable as it gets.

[KrisBryantisaBeast]

Change of subject, but what are you guys thinking as far as trade chips

 

Do we take advantage of some of our ML ready pieces for a contender?

Do we overwhelm a rebuilding team with a "variety" pack of young options that are 3.5-4.5 stars?

Is there anyone who is untouchable for you? Who would you trade Russell/Schwarber for?

 

Guys like Almora, Vogelbach, Mckinney, Edwards, Underwood, Alcantra should all be up for grabs in the right type of deal. No one is untouchable but I would only trade Russell/Schwarber for Mike Trout or Bryce Harper.

[sontensei]

Change of subject, but what are you guys thinking as far as trade chips

 

Do we take advantage of some of our ML ready pieces for a contender?

Do we overwhelm a rebuilding team with a "variety" pack of young options that are 3.5-4.5 stars?

Is there anyone who is untouchable for you? Who would you trade Russell/Schwarber for?

 

Guys like Almora, Vogelbach, Mckinney, Edwards, Underwood, Alcantra should all be up for grabs in the right type of deal. No one is untouchable but I would only trade Russell/Schwarber for Mike Trout or Bryce Harper.

 

Add Bryant and Rizzo to that list............. with russell/schwarbs

[rawaction]

Hamels and Papelbon would be ideal.

 

But I'd also really like Reddick, Clippard and Kazmir, though I'm assuming wouldn't be able to get all reasonably.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Though the smart thing for the Sox to do would be to trade Sale for a massive prospect package, no way that it's to us. Not unless the package looks something like..I don't even want to think about it.

 

Bottom line is that PR is a thing, and an important one at that. And while trades between rivals (regardless of how loosely the term is being used) does happen, it doesn't tend to involve elite players. And please don't bring up Sosa, as there's was zero indication of what he would become at the time.

[seanimal]

And please don't bring up Sosa, as there's was zero indication of what he would become at the time.

 

also, don't bring up sosa because he played for zero of our rivals

[Bryants Disco Ball]

And please don't bring up Sosa, as there's was zero indication of what he would become at the time.

 

also, don't bring up sosa because he played for zero of our rivals

 

Eh, in the PR area, the White Sox are for sure a rival.

[SouthSideRyan]

Though the smart thing for the Sox to do would be to trade Sale for a massive prospect package, no way that it's to us. Not unless the package looks something like..I don't even want to think about it.

 

Bottom line is that PR is a thing, and an important one at that. And while trades between rivals (regardless of how loosely the term is being used) does happen, it doesn't tend to involve elite players. And please don't bring up Sosa, as there's was zero indication of what he would become at the time.

 

Not that your point matters at all, but you realize we traded a guy perceived to be a star(was actually an all-star the season prior) for him right?

[apete6]

And please don't bring up Sosa, as there's was zero indication of what he would become at the time.

 

also, don't bring up sosa because he played for zero of our rivals

 

Tell that to the White Sox fans and front office. Unless we made them an offer they couldn't come up with any excuse to refuse for Sale (think Bryant and Russell or something equally ridiculous), it isn't going to happen because Jerry Reinsdorf and Kenny Williams think the rivalry is real.

[Bilbo161]

Change of subject, but what are you guys thinking as far as trade chips

 

Do we take advantage of some of our ML ready pieces for a contender?

Do we overwhelm a rebuilding team with a "variety" pack of young options that are 3.5-4.5 stars?

Is there anyone who is untouchable for you? Who would you trade Russell/Schwarber for?

 

Yea that's the hard part isn't it. I for one have no interest in any trade if it costs us any of our elite position prospects. Including Baez and Schwarber. I might change that tune just a bit if the return is Sonny Gray, who is the one guy I see worth the extra cost, but even for him I would never give up any of Russell, Schwarber, Bryant, or Soler. I would include Castro if it were for a guy like Gray, but I don't think he is a good fit for the A's in terms of plate discipline.

 

I think generally speaking our system is a pretty good fit for the A's so I'm sure we could do a deal if Oakland were interested, just not sure if we would be willing to pay the future price. Not sure I could stomach the risk of giving up the likes of Jimenez, Torrez and that would just be the beginning of the package. I do think the A's are the one team that would give us fair value for Vogelbach. Maybe those three plus two of Edwards, Underwood, Sands, and Cease? Hell, what do I know anyway.

Edited June 19, 2015 by Bilbo161

[SouthSideRyan]

I keep seeing people talk about how the A's would value Vogelbach more than other teams. Is this just because of Jeremys Brown and Giambi?

[Guest]

I keep seeing people talk about how the A's would value Vogelbach more than other teams. Is this just because of Jeremys Brown and Giambi?

 

they think it's 2002 and only billy beane knows about obp?

[Bilbo161]

I keep seeing people talk about how the A's would value Vogelbach more than other teams. Is this just because of Jeremys Brown and Giambi?

 

The reason I think that is his plate discipline. Moneyball values high OBP and being in the AL, the A's also have the DH position to fill. NL teams could only play him at 1B.

[Guest]

I keep seeing people talk about how the A's would value Vogelbach more than other teams. Is this just because of Jeremys Brown and Giambi?

 

A little bit of that, a little bit of AL, a little bit of their penchant for thinking outside the box(see their catching situation last year, the Butler/Davis stuff at 1B/DH).

[bukie]

Showcase Schwarber for Minnesota this weekend. Then swing a Schwarber for Buxton deal.