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4 minutes ago, jersey cubs fan said:

A pass here is begging to be intercepted. The guy is right on his hip. A perfect pass to the outside should is a possible completion, but he’s on the run. It’s not terrible to hold onto the ball. 

Dude I'm talking the whole time about Mooney not breaking back but that Fields still could have hit him at the :7 mark. Definitely not throwing to Moore. 

[jersey cubs fan]

50 yards in the air on the run off back foot?

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15 minutes ago, jersey cubs fan said:

50 yards in the air on the run off back foot?

Dude what? At the 7-8 second mark Mooney is 40 yards away, Fields has 5 yards on the pursuing defender, and if he squares up and Mooney comes back to the ball that's a 30 yard air throw and not all that difficult to make.

[jersey cubs fan]

43 minutes ago, We Got The Whole 9 said:

Dude what? At the 7-8 second mark Mooney is 40 yards away, Fields has 5 yards on the pursuing defender, and if he squares up and Mooney comes back to the ball that's a 30 yard air throw and not all that difficult to make.

Dude. You’re wrong.

at 7 seconds fields is on the 25 and mooney is on the opposite ~27/28 yard line and is running laterally, not back to the ball. If fields makes that throw best case scenario is out of bounds. 
 

 

[WrigleyField 22]

Finally finding the median fan insanity point somewhere between a divisional round appearance and a SB loss.  Stopping after this one, my research is complete lol

 

 

[Bobson Dugnutt]

1 hour ago, jersey cubs fan said:

Dude. You’re wrong.

at 7 seconds fields is on the 25 and mooney is on the opposite ~27/28 yard line and is running laterally, not back to the ball. If fields makes that throw best case scenario is out of bounds. 
 

 

Yeah but if fields turns the opposite direction from where his momentum is taking him and Mooney does the same and then runs 40 yards closer to where fields is, it’s a pretty easy 8 yard pass. You gotta admit that, at least.

[Soul]

Among a whole bunch of other things, it looks like the Bears are missing what Montgomery brought to the team.

[Bobson Dugnutt]

6 minutes ago, Soul said:

Among a whole bunch of other things, it looks like the Bears are missing what Montgomery brought to the team.

I liked Montgomery, but I think they’ll get similar production out of Johnson.

Edited September 29, 2023 by Bobson Dugnutt

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54 minutes ago, Bobson Dugnutt said:

Yeah but if fields turns the opposite direction from where his momentum is taking him and Mooney does the same and then runs 40 yards closer to where fields is, it’s a pretty easy 8 yard pass. You gotta admit that, at least.

He could make that throw from ~33 to the Chiefs 35 or so if Mooney stopped running laterally-upfield, which was the whole point. 

[jersey cubs fan]

23 minutes ago, We Got The Whole 9 said:

He could make that throw from ~33 to the Chiefs 35 or so if Mooney stopped running laterally-upfield, which was the whole point. 

That’s not the point you attempted to make earlier. You complained that Fields didn’t let loose a 50 yard throw rolling to his left 

“Even without Mooney doing that, at the :7 mark Fields had an opportunity for a big pass. Just couldn't pull the damn trigger, as always. ”

 

[We Got The Whole 9]

10 minutes ago, jersey cubs fan said:

That’s not the point you attempted to make earlier. You complained that Fields didn’t let loose a 50 yard throw rolling to his left 

“Even without Mooney doing that, at the :7 mark Fields had an opportunity for a big pass. Just couldn't pull the damn trigger, as always. ”

 

It would have been from the 30 to the 30 and I hope you are better at counting than that. You don't have to exaggerate so much and put words in my mouth to belittle my point. It would have taken a great throw but it was doable. Fields is the type that can make those off-platform throws. If Mooney had some horsefeathers awareness it would have been a 30 yard pass (35 to the 35) that probably a dozen QBs in the league could make. 

Edited September 29, 2023 by We Got The Whole 9

[minnesotacubsfan]

2 hours ago, WrigleyField 22 said:

Finally finding the median fan insanity point somewhere between a divisional round appearance and a SB loss.  Stopping after this one, my research is complete lol

 

 

Have you factored in the possibility of GB trolls?

[BigbadB]

13 hours ago, Soul said:

Among a whole bunch of other things, it looks like the Bears are missing what Montgomery brought to the team.

I'd bet the Bears offered Montgomery more money than Detroit gave him. Montgomery wanted to break the bank like Bell, Gordon III, Taylor, etc... and teams are not inclined to blow cap money on similar production from a rookie contract draftee or a one year signing like Foreman. 

Montgomery didn't get what he wanted, so he looked for greener pastures, and won but also lost. He's on a much better team, but I believe he left money on the table by not taking a Bears offer.

[WrigleyField 22]

Just now, BigbadB said:

I'd bet the Bears offered Montgomery more money than Detroit gave him. Montgomery wanted to break the bank like Bell, Gordon III, Taylor, etc... and teams are not inclined to blow cap money on similar production from a rookie contract draftee or a one year signing like Foreman. 

Montgomery didn't get what he wanted, so he looked for greener pastures, and won but also lost. He's on a much better team, but I believe he left money on the table by not taking a Bears offer.

He seemed pretty happy in the post game interview.

Anyways I'm not pining for DM. It sucks they never had a good team around him, but he's still at a position that ages quick and he certainly isn't the difference in futility for Bears or not.  And Roschon looking like a legit replacement helps.  Herbert - think he's never gonna be more than a complementary back.

[BigbadB]

1 minute ago, WrigleyField 22 said:

He seemed pretty happy in the post game interview.

Anyways I'm not pining for DM. It sucks they never had a good team around him, but he's still at a position that ages quick and he certainly isn't the difference in futility for Bears or not.  And Roschon looking like a legit replacement helps.  Herbert - think he's never gonna be more than a complementary back.

Agreed. Herbert looks like he's only really good at one thing, and that's bursting through holes. Blocking and catching passes out of the backfield don't seem to be pro level to be an all purpose back.

[WrigleyField 22]

25 minutes ago, BigbadB said:

Agreed. Herbert looks like he's only really good at one thing, and that's bursting through holes. Blocking and catching passes out of the backfield don't seem to be pro level to be an all purpose back.

If things continue to go real south, Herbert has to be at top of list for a trade dump before deadline. 

[jumbo]

44 minutes ago, WrigleyField 22 said:

He seemed pretty happy in the post game interview.

Anyways I'm not pining for DM. It sucks they never had a good team around him, but he's still at a position that ages quick and he certainly isn't the difference in futility for Bears or not.  And Roschon looking like a legit replacement helps.  Herbert - think he's never gonna be more than a complementary back.

I made the argument to another Bear fan in the office that Herbert's YPC was better than Montgomery's in no small part because Monty got the 3rd and 1 carries over Herbert. Other reasons too, but Monty definitely was the tough yardage guy

[BigbadB]

6 minutes ago, jumbo said:

I made the argument to another Bear fan in the office that Herbert's YPC was better than Montgomery's in no small part because Monty got the 3rd and 1 carries over Herbert. Other reasons too, but Monty definitely was the tough yardage guy

Detroit clearly favored Montgomery last night in those tough yardage situations. 

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7 minutes ago, jumbo said:

I made the argument to another Bear fan in the office that Herbert's YPC was better than Montgomery's in no small part because Monty got the 3rd and 1 carries over Herbert. Other reasons too, but Monty definitely was the tough yardage guy

It wasn't just better, it was nearly 3 yards better last year. Herbert is far better for those stretch runs. I like how Monty absorbs contact and keeps moving but he lacks explosiveness; I don't think that can be debated. Obviously there's a lot more season to go but he's never cracked 4.3 in his entire career. 

[gflore34]

After the Bears lose this game with yet another pathetic display of offense.  I'm thinking Getsy' gone on Monday, wouldn't shock me one bit if whomever takes over has more success by simply realizing they have to target Moore 10-15 times a game.

[BigSlick]

I've come out of my self-imposed exile (I couldn't remember what e-mail address I registered this account on) to say: Boy, the Bears really horsefeathers suck huh 

[Soul]

2 hours ago, We Got The Whole 9 said:

It wasn't just better, it was nearly 3 yards better last year. Herbert is far better for those stretch runs. I like how Monty absorbs contact and keeps moving but he lacks explosiveness; I don't think that can be debated. Obviously there's a lot more season to go but he's never cracked 4.3 in his entire career. 

For me, I value the versatility that DM brings over explosiveness.  When Herbert is in there it limits the plays and the defense is going to know that.  With DM, you can run anything.

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7 minutes ago, Soul said:

For me, I value the versatility that DM brings over explosiveness.  When Herbert is in there it limits the plays and the defense is going to know that.  With DM, you can run anything.

You're absolutely right about that. Let's hope Johnson excels at both. 

[WrigleyField 22]

1 minute ago, We Got The Whole 9 said:

You're absolutely right about that. Let's hope Johnson excels at both. 

I don't think Johnson will be as explosive as Herbert. He does have a real trait.  It's just not a trait worth trying to capitalize on anymore if the Bears are 0-7 and facing a regime blow up.

Draft a day 3 Khalil Herbert every year and hope 25-33% of them hit.

 

[gflore34]

Will the Bears get booed right out the tunnel?  There's a very good chance, in any case, the cascade of boos will really ramp up after they go three and out on their first series consisting of three runs.  I do believe if Justin has any chance at all it's not with Getsy as the OC so, I'm torn between wanting see anything positive or a horsefeathers show that gets him fired.

Edited September 29, 2023 by gflore34