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[WrigleyField 22]

24 minutes ago, Hairyducked Idiot said:

But I'm not really worried about Peterman or Bagent coming in and winning games.  Bagent getting some starts would be hilarious and fun, and I know there's been weirder things happening in sports like Kurt Warner or Tom Brady, but what I saw from him in the pre-season against fourth-string defenses will get eaten alive on a real sunday.

 

Tom Brady probably would have been out of the league by his first contract if he was on the Bears.

Granted Bagent is already like a pull of the penny slot bet, so it's not like there's anyhting to destroy, but it certainly ain't happening in this horsefeathers show of a team.  Only sad sack franchises like Chicago fans would be pounding the table to see him.

[minnesotacubsfan]

I'd start Bagent for two reasons; 1) just to see what he would do and 2) bench JF for at least one game, and tell him to clear his head

[JudasIscariotTheBird]

 

[raw]

5 hours ago, jersey cubs fan said:

Football coaches are pretty dumb people. They are gym teachers at heart who pick their favorites early and stick with them longer than they should while holding grudges against others based on random stuff. You probably can’t be a successful nfl head coach and a moron, but you can stick around the league and the sport in general just through relationships. 

This! I've learned thru the years of having friends/family members in the NFL. 99% of guys know who is making the roster day 1. Every once in a while you get a surprise, but when coaches say "open competition" it's a flat out lie. They already know who they want where and have envisioned what it looks like. Obviously, there are exceptions where there is a legit competition, but those exceptions usually are between 2 bad players (Trubisky/Foles type stuff). 

[WrigleyField 22]

Continuing to recalibrate until I find out exactly what percentage of this fan bases brain is destroyed 

 

[BigbadB]

15 hours ago, minnesotacubsfan said:

I'd start Bagent for two reasons; 1) just to see what he would do and 2) bench JF for at least one game, and tell him to clear his head

Benching Fields won't clear his head. It will wreck his confidence even more. The more simple solution is wait for the inevitable Fields injury and toss Bagent out there because the Bagent fans will lose their minds if you go with a known non-commodity in Peterman.

To me, you only bench Fields if the experiment is completely over. For me, it probably takes a new OC or someone else calling offensive plays before it's completely over. Not sure how you find a new play caller mid season, Didn't Janocko play under Getsy somewhere else where he would just be more of the same? This team is in coaching hell.

[jersey cubs fan]

For those of us non x-men, car to share the results?

[jersey cubs fan]

3 minutes ago, BigbadB said:

Benching Fields won't clear his head. It will wreck his confidence even more.
 

Didn't Janocko play under Getsy somewhere else where he would just be more of the same? This team is in coaching hell.

Getsy was a grad assistant for one year at Pitt when Janocko was playing there. Outside of that they had no crossover as coaches. There should be plenty of difference between the two. But you also have the WR coach/ passing game coordinator that could step in. 

[WrigleyField 22]

17 minutes ago, jersey cubs fan said:

For those of us non x-men, car to share the results?

Still early on latest poll

 

 

[gflore34]

As former coach, okay, it was youth lacrosse, I don't understand this whole narrative around Getsy and the Bears staff not trusting Fields to execute.  I had kids of all skill levels, some who could catch the ball, some just starting who couldn't catch the ball, nevertheless, in the drills and games.  I always stressed trust in your teammates, keep passing the ball to them regardless of the outcome, sure they'll often drop ball.  However, by continuing to show trust in them, they'll eventually catch the ball, helping them gain confidence and good things will happen.  Likewise with Justin, there's no reason whatsoever to dial it down, simplify, not try plays for fear of him failing to execute.  What's the worst that could happen?  They've already lost 13 horsefeathers consecutive games, it's rock bottom, there's no place to go but up.  While it's ultimately up to Fields, the staff could help by trying to facilitate his confidence.  Because, the staff holding back, etc. will certainly destroy whatever faith Fields has in himself.

Edited September 27, 2023 by gflore34

[jersey cubs fan]

1 hour ago, WrigleyField 22 said:

Still early on latest poll

 

 

[WrigleyField 22]

16 minutes ago, jersey cubs fan said:

It's severe brain rot or just solid trolling 

[Brian707]

 

Bears fans are a stupid bunch

[UMFan83]

lol 26th means that the Bears managed to get to the divisional round of the playoffs and lose.  That means they either won a playoff game for the first time in 13 years or they pretty much went undefeated from here on out.   Chicago sports owners have won, they've totally trained the fanbases to prefer tanking over success.

[Rex Buckingham]

7 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

lol 26th means that the Bears managed to get to the divisional round of the playoffs and lose.  That means they either won a playoff game for the first time in 13 years or they pretty much went undefeated from here on out.   Chicago sports owners have won, they've totally trained the fanbases to prefer tanking over success.

yeah, there's nothing remotely reasonable about wanting the Bears to tank over being good enough to make the playoffs

 

Edited September 27, 2023 by Rex Buckingham

[jersey cubs fan]

10 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

Chicago sports owners have won, they've totally trained the fanbases to prefer tanking over success.

Listening to Hoge and Jahns podcast and some jamoke called in and said “how is this team worse after spending all that money?”

 

THE BEARS DIDNT SPEND ANY MONEY!!! They left huge holes for two consecutive years on purpose. 

 

They struggled to get up to the minimum requirement. Why do people ignore this? Goddamn fans are stupid. 

[Old Style]

Does Poles get a portion of the money he doesn't spend as a bonus like Michael Scott or something?

[Tryptamine]

So last year the Bears were last in the league with 20 sacks as a team. Do they even get to 10 this year? If I were to guess, I think there will be at least 5 players who have more sacks individually than the Bears do as an entire team. 

[Brian707]

13 minutes ago, Old Style said:

Does Poles get a portion of the money he doesn't spend as a bonus like Michael Scott or something?

Probably a fruit basket at Christmas.

Also, Bears ownership always goes on the cheap when it comes to hiring coaches and GMs

[WrigleyField 22]

39 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

lol 26th means that the Bears managed to get to the divisional round of the playoffs and lose.  That means they either won a playoff game for the first time in 13 years or they pretty much went undefeated from here on out.   Chicago sports owners have won, they've totally trained the fanbases to prefer tanking over success.

You know, you're right, I didn't consider that 26 could mean the Bears roll off 13 straight, get the bye, and lose in dividisional round 😂. I assumed it meant a WC playoff win 

[gflore34]

Thus far, it appears the Bears are intent on running Fields off so Poles is able to draft his QB.  Then I'm certain we'll see Poles aggressively try to create best possible environment for his QB, that is, attempt to do all things he should have done for Fields. What a kick in the balls that'll be to Fields.  Should that come to pass, I wouldn't mind seeing Fields hook on somewhere and come back to beat the Bears maybe, for added emphasis, in a playoff game.  I know it's a business and all but, there are better ways to go about making your QB prove he's the one.  Hell, I don't know what's wrong with straight up honesty, I'd said Justin needs to prove he's our QB.

Edited September 27, 2023 by gflore34

[WrigleyField 22]

14 minutes ago, gflore34 said:

Thus far, it appears the Bears are intent on running Fields off so Poles is able to draft his QB.  Then I'm certain we'll see Poles aggressively try to create best possible environment for his QB, that is, attempt to do all things he should have done for Fields. What a kick in the balls that'll be to Fields.  Should that come to pass, I wouldn't mind seeing Fields hook on somewhere and come back to beat the Bears maybe, for added emphasis, in a playoff game.  I know it's a business and all but, there are better ways to go about making your QB prove he's the one.  Hell, I do know what's wrong with straight up honesty, I'd said Justin needs to prove he's our QB.

Its all rotten The Process brain.  People think you gotta line up a series of perfect moves that culminate around the chosen QB, instead of just constantly building all of it.

[UMFan83]

39 minutes ago, WrigleyField 22 said:

You know, you're right, I didn't consider that 26 could mean the Bears roll off 13 straight, get the bye, and lose in dividisional round 😂. I assumed it meant a WC playoff win 

Technically both AFC teams in the divisional round would have to have better records than the Bears and both lose in that round since 26 is the 3rd best record of a divisional round loser so its a very narrow path.  Almost certainly this scenario would involve a WC playoff win.

[UMFan83]

19 minutes ago, gflore34 said:

Thus far, it appears the Bears are intent on running Fields off so Poles is able to draft his QB.  Then I'm certain we'll see Poles aggressively try to create best possible environment for his QB, that is, attempt to do all things he should have done for Fields. What a kick in the balls that'll be to Fields.  Should that come to pass, I wouldn't mind seeing Fields hook on somewhere and come back to beat the Bears maybe, for added emphasis, in a playoff game.  I know it's a business and all but, there are better ways to go about making your QB prove he's the one.  Hell, I do know what's wrong with straight up honesty, I'd said Justin needs to prove he's our QB.

I saw some report from Peter King last night that claims that Poles has never been on board with Fields as their QB of the future and is not going to give him a ton more rope this year.  I was too pissed off about the Cubs game to post it last night and now I cant find it lol.

If King's report is accurate, seems like something Poles camp would leak right about now to distance himself from Fields and give him a chance to pick his own QB after the season.

Edited September 27, 2023 by UMFan83

[gflore34]

15 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

I saw some report from Peter King last night that claims that Poles has never been on board with Fields as their QB of the future and is not going to give him a ton more rope this year.  I was too pissed off about the Cubs game to post it last night and now I cant find it lol

That's fine, I'd like to think Poles wasn't on board because he saw the flaws in Fields' game but, also wasn't sold enough on any of Young, Stroud, etc. to pull the trigger.  So, he rolled the dice on Fields with an eye on 2024.  Though, given his moves, Poles doesn't appear that smart, that's the sticking point.  I'd also expect a complete reset on the coaching staff as well, I think there's something to Eberflus being foisted upon Poles.

Edited September 27, 2023 by gflore34