Bears Week 4 vs Broncos Sunday at noon on CBS

[WrigleyField 22]

Also 12 and 13 is a very strong point from which to wheel and deal from for probably any non-Williams prospect 

[CubinNY]

I believe that in general, the talent disparity in the NFL is not that large with the exception of QB, and that the Bears have enough talent to be close to .500 if they had a better QB and coaches. Poles sat on his hands, which was stupid, and then didn't target the right players in FA, but individually I don't think they are as bad as they look as a team. You simply cannot have guys blocking their own players in week 1 of the season, etc. 

[WrigleyField 22]

27 minutes ago, minnesotacubsfan said:

Bagent being the answer would be far more likely, and even that outcome is improbable.

Improbable isn't a strong enough word.

[CubinNY]

2 minutes ago, WrigleyField 22 said:

Improbable isn't a strong enough word.

If he was the answer, he'd be starting. The coaches aren't that dumb.

[Soul]

9 minutes ago, CubinNY said:

I believe that in general, the talent disparity in the NFL is not that large with the exception of QB, and that the Bears have enough talent to be close to .500 if they had a better QB and coaches. Poles sat on his hands, which was stupid, and then didn't target the right players in FA, but individually I don't think they are as bad as they look as a team. You simply cannot have guys blocking their own players in week 1 of the season, etc. 

Totally agree.

[jersey cubs fan]

4 minutes ago, CubinNY said:

If he was the answer, he'd be starting. The coaches aren't that dumb.

Football coaches are pretty dumb people. They are gym teachers at heart who pick their favorites early and stick with them longer than they should while holding grudges against others based on random stuff. You probably can’t be a successful nfl head coach and a moron, but you can stick around the league and the sport in general just through relationships. 

[minnesotacubsfan]

14 minutes ago, WrigleyField 22 said:

Improbable isn't a strong enough word.

"exponentially improbable" then

the point being, Peterman is likely the biggest moonshot of competent QB play that the Bears have

 

 

[WrigleyField 22]

1 minute ago, minnesotacubsfan said:

"exponentially improbable" then

the point being, Peterman is likely the biggest moonshot of competent QB play that the Bears have

 

 

It was literally just a troll joke off a hypothetical that is nearly as improbable, my man

[gflore34]

41 minutes ago, jersey cubs fan said:

A competent GM and head can do it in one season. Poles cannot. In part because he apparently doesn’t want to improve. 

It was a conscience effort on his part to not utilize all the resources at his disposal.  As I said either he is dumb as a box of rocks or he knew the roster was at least one more draft away and wanted to see if Fields worked out.  Meaning , if Fields bombed he'd have the draft position to pick his QB and add another high impact players.

[minnesotacubsfan]

55 minutes ago, CubinNY said:

I believe that in general, the talent disparity in the NFL is not that large with the exception of QB, and that the Bears have enough talent to be close to .500 if they had a better QB and coaches. Poles sat on his hands, which was stupid, and then didn't target the right players in FA, but individually I don't think they are as bad as they look as a team. You simply cannot have guys blocking their own players in week 1 of the season, etc. 

I don't think I agree, I don't think the goal is .500. You have to have top talent at some position to be considered a contender, and the gap between blue-chip talent and rank-and-fil nfl players is noticeable. You could look at nearly every position and find a game-changing talent, someone who's play every week can change the outcome of the game

Donald, Bosa, McCaffery, Henry, Jefferson, Warner, and Kelce for instance, are not QB's. Obviously, when paired with a blue-chip QB they are far more likely to be contenders, you still need the best talent outside of the QB position

 

 

 

 

Edited September 26, 2023 by minnesotacubsfan

[minnesotacubsfan]

6 minutes ago, gflore34 said:

It was a conscience effort on his part to not utilize all the resources at his disposal.  As I said either he is dumb as a box of rocks or he knew the roster was at least one more draft away and wanted to see if Fields worked out.  Meaning , if Fields bombed he'd have the draft position to pick his QB and add another high impact players.

but that shouldn't excuse him from taking top talent before JF fails, either. Nothing should stop Poles from building a solid team outside of the QB position

[CubinNY]

1 minute ago, minnesotacubsfan said:

I don't think I agree, I don't think the goal is .500. You have to have top talent at some position to be considered a contender, and the gap between blue-chip talent and rank-and-fil nfl players is noticeable. You could look at nearly every position and find a game-changing talent, someone who's play every week can change the outcome of the game

Donald, Bosa, McCaffery, Henry, Jefferson, Warner, and Kelsey for instance, are not QB's. Obviously, when paired with a blue-chip QB they are far more likely to be contenders, you still need the best talent outside of the QB position

 

 

 

 

it's not the goal, but with competent coaching, it's not hard either. For example, Lovie Smith's Bears.

[minnesotacubsfan]

3 minutes ago, CubinNY said:

it's not the goal, but with competent coaching, it's not hard either. For example, Lovie Smith's Bears.

that kind of proves what I'm saying, Lovie had a HOF LB and (should be HOF) KR, not to mention Tommie Harris and Mike Brown who were maybe a 1/2 step below blue-chip

[Brian707]

3 minutes ago, minnesotacubsfan said:

that kind of proves what I'm saying, Lovie had a HOF LB and (should be HOF) KR, not to mention Tommie Harris and Mike Brown who were maybe a 1/2 step below blue-chip

Not to mention a top 10 O-Line, at least in 2005-06

[UMFan83]

2 minutes ago, Brian707 said:

Not to mention a top 10 O-Line, at least in 2005-06

Tillman and Briggs were both top 10 at their position too

[Brian707]

3 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

Tillman and Briggs were both top 10 at their position too

Yup and I would consider Brown a blue chipper too, he just couldn't stay healthy

[WrigleyField 22]

31 minutes ago, gflore34 said:

It was a conscience effort on his part to not utilize all the resources at his disposal.  As I said either he is dumb as a box of rocks or he knew the roster was at least one more draft away and wanted to see if Fields worked out.  Meaning , if Fields bombed he'd have the draft position to pick his QB and add another high impact players.

Many of those resources at his disposal were because he tanked away 2022 so hard (whether intentional or not)

Hey, we need one more year cuz year one we sailed it in so hard the first year!

Just sucks. Was hoping to be wrong and proven a dummy, but not looking great!

Edited September 26, 2023 by WrigleyField 22

[Sammy Sofa]

Guys, there's too much shut to wade through when I only want answers to two things:

Is sulley still alive after this last weekend?

And what kind of porn was the dude that got fired watching?

[CubinNY]

3 minutes ago, Sammy Sofa said:

Guys, there's too much shut to wade through when I only want answers to two things:

Is sulley still alive after this last weekend?

And what kind of porn was the dude that got fired watching?

Sulley was melting down on Monday

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I think there's a critical mass as a football team where enough bad players on the field make it impossible for any good players to do their job., and the Bears are definitely at that. So it's possible that some random dudes that look terrible are actually good, like maybe some of the secondary or the linebackers or tight ends or something.

But I'm not really worried about Peterman or Bagent coming in and winning games.  Bagent getting some starts would be hilarious and fun, and I know there's been weirder things happening in sports like Kurt Warner or Tom Brady, but what I saw from him in the pre-season against fourth-string defenses will get eaten alive on a real sunday.

 

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I am kind of coming around on next year's QBs.  Williams looks Mahomes-ian on his college take, and Maye could be the tall pocket passer I've been begging for forever.

[Old Style]

Man, I miss Mike Brown so much. I wish he could have been able to stay healthy. He was HOF caliber. And I think it's criminal that Peanut isn't in yet. Hester too.

[minnesotacubsfan]

5 minutes ago, Old Style said:

Man, I miss Mike Brown so much. I wish he could have been able to stay healthy. He was HOF caliber. And I think it's criminal that Peanut isn't in yet. Hester too.

Tillman on this MNF screenshot alone:

 

an absolute clinic

 

[WrigleyField 22]

34 minutes ago, Sammy Sofa said:

Guys, there's too much shut to wade through when I only want answers to two things:

Is sulley still alive after this last weekend?

And what kind of porn was the dude that got fired watching?

I'm pretty sure Sulley liked one of my tweets, so he's probably alive. 

[minnesotacubsfan]

1 minute ago, WrigleyField 22 said:

I'm pretty sure Sulley liked one of my tweets, so he's probably alive. 

oh hes always alive......nothing could kill sulley