General Cubs Chit-Chat

[cl smooth]

For those who have bothered paying attention, anybody got a good idea of how the pitching staff shakes out next week in NY? And do the Cubs have a pitcher worth trying to time your visit for? I'm just trying to avoid a Jake start at this point.

 

Thursday’s game is tentatively DeGrom vs. Hendricks. Most likely the game I’ll be attending.

 

EDIT: Scratch that, I guess DeGrom is pitching on Wednesday now.

[abuck1220]

For those who have bothered paying attention, anybody got a good idea of how the pitching staff shakes out next week in NY? And do the Cubs have a pitcher worth trying to time your visit for? I'm just trying to avoid a Jake start at this point.

 

i don't think you can catch COVID from the guy on the mound when you're in the stands.

[jersey cubs fan]

For those who have bothered paying attention, anybody got a good idea of how the pitching staff shakes out next week in NY? And do the Cubs have a pitcher worth trying to time your visit for? I'm just trying to avoid a Jake start at this point.

 

i don't think you can catch COVID from the guy on the mound when you're in the stands.

Do your research

[Brian]

here's some content specifically geared for a couple of posters here

 

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[muntjack]

Patrick Wisdom hit a homerun tonight and his OPS went down.

[Little Slide Rooter]

 

 

Patrick Wisdom hit a homerun tonight and his OPS went down.

 

It may be a matter of days before he falls flat on his face. But what separates him from the AAAA sluggers of Cubs past is that he's doing it at a time when it actually matters. If nothing else, hopefully the smoke and mirrors are enough to earn him a few million yen on the other side of the pond.

[squally1313]

 

Patrick Wisdom hit a homerun tonight and his OPS went down.

 

It may be a matter of days before he falls flat on his face. But what separates him from the AAAA sluggers of Cubs past is that he's doing it at a time when it actually matters. If nothing else, hopefully the smoke and mirrors are enough to earn him a few million yen on the other side of the pond.

He's going to K a lot, which is not the kind of hitter you necessarily want to add to this lineup. I think what actually separates him from those other guys is that it seems like he can actually play solid defense. Jake Fox could hit, you just couldn't put him anywhere and he wasn't good enough to be a DH. With Wisdom, you get a 5% chance of a Max Muncy thing, a pretty high likelihood he can be the next Bote (or the Bote we thought we'd be getting), and a decent chance his K rate goes to 40% and he falls into the Fox/Hoffpauer/LaHair category.

[Bertz]

 

Patrick Wisdom hit a homerun tonight and his OPS went down.

 

It may be a matter of days before he falls flat on his face. But what separates him from the AAAA sluggers of Cubs past is that he's doing it at a time when it actually matters. If nothing else, hopefully the smoke and mirrors are enough to earn him a few million yen on the other side of the pond.

He's going to K a lot, which is not the kind of hitter you necessarily want to add to this lineup. I think what actually separates him from those other guys is that it seems like he can actually play solid defense. Jake Fox could hit, you just couldn't put him anywhere and he wasn't good enough to be a DH. With Wisdom, you get a 5% chance of a Max Muncy thing, a pretty high likelihood he can be the next Bote (or the Bote we thought we'd be getting), and a decent chance his K rate goes to 40% and he falls into the Fox/Hoffpauer/LaHair category.

 

Yeah I think this is where I'm at. One of the good things is that this lineup is going to change SUBSTANTIALLY in the next year or so. So while adding a .240/.320/.450 type of hitter might not be the ideal type of hitter for this moment, if he proves to be fairly real it can change how we approach this offseason. Like maybe you're a little less likely to hold on to Javy, so you can alleviate the RH swing and miss in the lineup. But obviously, we need to see a few hundred more PAs before we get too far down the road on thoughts like that.

[CubinNY]

 

 

 

It may be a matter of days before he falls flat on his face. But what separates him from the AAAA sluggers of Cubs past is that he's doing it at a time when it actually matters. If nothing else, hopefully the smoke and mirrors are enough to earn him a few million yen on the other side of the pond.

He's going to K a lot, which is not the kind of hitter you necessarily want to add to this lineup. I think what actually separates him from those other guys is that it seems like he can actually play solid defense. Jake Fox could hit, you just couldn't put him anywhere and he wasn't good enough to be a DH. With Wisdom, you get a 5% chance of a Max Muncy thing, a pretty high likelihood he can be the next Bote (or the Bote we thought we'd be getting), and a decent chance his K rate goes to 40% and he falls into the Fox/Hoffpauer/LaHair category.

 

Yeah I think this is where I'm at. One of the good things is that this lineup is going to change SUBSTANTIALLY in the next year or so. So while adding a .240/.320/.450 type of hitter might not be the ideal type of hitter for this moment, if he proves to be fairly real it can change how we approach this offseason. Like maybe you're a little less likely to hold on to Javy, so you can alleviate the RH swing and miss in the lineup. But obviously, we need to see a few hundred more PAs before we get too far down the road on thoughts like that.

The best thing about Wisdom is he is a former 1st round draft pick of the Cardinals. There must be some slow-acting pixie dust that accidentally got sprinkled on him.

[CubinNY]

I sure would like this team a lot more if Darvish were on the roster.

[Derwood]

I sure would like this team a lot more if Darvish were on the roster.

 

Why? He can't even beat the Cubs

[Brian]

 

someone please photoshop Ricketts and Ross on here, and i nominate it to be the new Dusty/Lou street sweeper image for wins

[Bote McBoteface]

 

I did it but I suck.

 

That gets deleted in a month, so if its gonna get use you might want to upload it elsewhere.

[BigSlick]

How bad can Jason Heyward play before he just gets permanently benched because I’m way past that point

[muntjack]

His single today probably bought him a month.

[BigSlick]

Are the Cubs Actually Good? I don’t want to get my hopes up too high but we’re a significant chunk into the season and they keep winning, have the best RD by a significant margin in the division. The Fangraphs projections still have them a big underdog in the division for the rest of the season, which annoys me.

 

It’s too bad they hobbled themselves with the unnecessary payroll shedding in the off season huh.

[Wilson A2000]

Are the Cubs Actually Good? I don’t want to get my hopes up too high but we’re a significant chunk into the season and they keep winning, have the best RD by a significant margin in the division. The Fangraphs projections still have them a big underdog in the division for the rest of the season, which annoys me.

 

It’s too bad they hobbled themselves with the unnecessary payroll shedding in the off season huh.

 

I don't care if they are good. They aren't winning the World Series good and if you aren't going to sign Baez or Bryant or Rizzo, trade them all with Kimbrel before July 1. There is good regular season baseball and there is good playoff baseball. Just like when the Cubs beat up on the Mets in 2015 and got hammered in the playoffs because the Mets have better starting pitching.

[Tim]

Are the Cubs Actually Good? I don’t want to get my hopes up too high but we’re a significant chunk into the season and they keep winning, have the best RD by a significant margin in the division. The Fangraphs projections still have them a big underdog in the division for the rest of the season, which annoys me.

 

It’s too bad they hobbled themselves with the unnecessary payroll shedding in the off season huh.

 

I don't care if they are good. They aren't winning the World Series good and if you aren't going to sign Baez or Bryant or Rizzo, trade them all with Kimbrel before July 1. There is good regular season baseball and there is good playoff baseball. Just like when the Cubs beat up on the Mets in 2015 and got hammered in the playoffs because the Mets have better starting pitching.

lol

[Wilson A2000]

Are the Cubs Actually Good? I don’t want to get my hopes up too high but we’re a significant chunk into the season and they keep winning, have the best RD by a significant margin in the division. The Fangraphs projections still have them a big underdog in the division for the rest of the season, which annoys me.

 

It’s too bad they hobbled themselves with the unnecessary payroll shedding in the off season huh.

 

I don't care if they are good. They aren't winning the World Series good and if you aren't going to sign Baez or Bryant or Rizzo, trade them all with Kimbrel before July 1. There is good regular season baseball and there is good playoff baseball. Just like when the Cubs beat up on the Mets in 2015 and got hammered in the playoffs because the Mets have better starting pitching.

lol

 

You traded away your best starting pitcher last offseason to start the rebuild. Pick a lane.

[Tim]

 

I don't care if they are good. They aren't winning the World Series good and if you aren't going to sign Baez or Bryant or Rizzo, trade them all with Kimbrel before July 1. There is good regular season baseball and there is good playoff baseball. Just like when the Cubs beat up on the Mets in 2015 and got hammered in the playoffs because the Mets have better starting pitching.

lol

 

You traded away your best starting pitcher last offseason to start the rebuild. Pick a lane.

Letting past decisions influence your current ones is dumb. Since that decision was made, there is a lot of new information about finances, performance, etc.

[BigSlick]

Are the Cubs Actually Good? I don’t want to get my hopes up too high but we’re a significant chunk into the season and they keep winning, have the best RD by a significant margin in the division. The Fangraphs projections still have them a big underdog in the division for the rest of the season, which annoys me.

 

It’s too bad they hobbled themselves with the unnecessary payroll shedding in the off season huh.

 

I don't care if they are good. They aren't winning the World Series good and if you aren't going to sign Baez or Bryant or Rizzo, trade them all with Kimbrel before July 1. There is good regular season baseball and there is good playoff baseball. Just like when the Cubs beat up on the Mets in 2015 and got hammered in the playoffs because the Mets have better starting pitching.

 

I thought we’ve all learned this isn’t a thing. Didn’t we all learn it wasn’t a thing like 15 years ago? Make the playoffs and take a spin on the Playoff Roulette wheel.

[soccer10k]

Are the Cubs Actually Good? I don’t want to get my hopes up too high but we’re a significant chunk into the season and they keep winning, have the best RD by a significant margin in the division. The Fangraphs projections still have them a big underdog in the division for the rest of the season, which annoys me.

 

It’s too bad they hobbled themselves with the unnecessary payroll shedding in the off season huh.

 

I don't care if they are good. They aren't winning the World Series good and if you aren't going to sign Baez or Bryant or Rizzo, trade them all with Kimbrel before July 1. There is good regular season baseball and there is good playoff baseball. Just like when the Cubs beat up on the Mets in 2015 and got hammered in the playoffs because the Mets have better starting pitching.

 

I thought we’ve all learned this isn’t a thing. Didn’t we all learn it wasn’t a thing like 15 years ago? Make the playoffs and take a spin on the Playoff Roulette wheel.

 

Yep. We might have much worse chances than the Dodgers or Padres but if you can get in, you have a chance to get hot for 4 weeks and win it all. The 2014 Royals had pretty poor starting pitching but rode the Holland/Davis/Herrera trio and were a legendary Bumgarner performance away from winning the WS.

 

Plus, in all likelihood, we’d only have to beat one of the Dodgers/Padres in the playoffs since they’ll likely be the 1 seed and a WC team. Just like the Mets got lucky in 2015 only having to face one of the NL Central teams.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Are the Cubs Actually Good? I don’t want to get my hopes up too high but we’re a significant chunk into the season and they keep winning, have the best RD by a significant margin in the division. The Fangraphs projections still have them a big underdog in the division for the rest of the season, which annoys me.

 

It’s too bad they hobbled themselves with the unnecessary payroll shedding in the off season huh.

 

I don't care if they are good. They aren't winning the World Series good and if you aren't going to sign Baez or Bryant or Rizzo, trade them all with Kimbrel before July 1. There is good regular season baseball and there is good playoff baseball. Just like when the Cubs beat up on the Mets in 2015 and got hammered in the playoffs because the Mets have better starting pitching.

 

I thought we’ve all learned this isn’t a thing. Didn’t we all learn it wasn’t a thing like 15 years ago? Make the playoffs and take a spin on the Playoff Roulette wheel.

 

Who would've guessed that when presented with two small samples of opposing results, it's the one that supports my preconceived notions that's the real one?

 

Also the Cubs got 12 WAR from Arrieta and Lester in 2015, and the Mets lost to a Royals team that had Chris Young, Edinson Volquez, and Yordano Ventura start 4 of the 5 games.

[David]

Are the Cubs Actually Good? I don’t want to get my hopes up too high but we’re a significant chunk into the season and they keep winning, have the best RD by a significant margin in the division. The Fangraphs projections still have them a big underdog in the division for the rest of the season, which annoys me.

 

It’s too bad they hobbled themselves with the unnecessary payroll shedding in the off season huh.

 

I don't care if they are good. They aren't winning the World Series good and if you aren't going to sign Baez or Bryant or Rizzo, trade them all with Kimbrel before July 1. There is good regular season baseball and there is good playoff baseball. Just like when the Cubs beat up on the Mets in 2015 and got hammered in the playoffs because the Mets have better starting pitching.

 

this is certainly a take.

[Wilson A2000]

Are the Cubs Actually Good? I don’t want to get my hopes up too high but we’re a significant chunk into the season and they keep winning, have the best RD by a significant margin in the division. The Fangraphs projections still have them a big underdog in the division for the rest of the season, which annoys me.

 

It’s too bad they hobbled themselves with the unnecessary payroll shedding in the off season huh.

 

I don't care if they are good. They aren't winning the World Series good and if you aren't going to sign Baez or Bryant or Rizzo, trade them all with Kimbrel before July 1. There is good regular season baseball and there is good playoff baseball. Just like when the Cubs beat up on the Mets in 2015 and got hammered in the playoffs because the Mets have better starting pitching.

 

I thought we’ve all learned this isn’t a thing. Didn’t we all learn it wasn’t a thing like 15 years ago? Make the playoffs and take a spin on the Playoff Roulette wheel.

 

Of course it could happen. But the chances are slim with a weak rotation that doesn’t throw hard. If you plan on signing the core, go all in. If you aren’t, continue the rebuild and acquire prospects.