Pie traded to Baltimore for Olson and minor leaguer

[B]

I remember when Cedeno was hot in April and I couldn't wait for him to come up to the plate.

I can't ever remember wanting Cedeno at the plate.

 

He hit a grand slam against the Mets and the next day he got a hit with the bases loaded. Up to that point he had some good AB's and it looked like he might have figured out how to hit a baseball. Then he remembered he was Ronny Cedeno.

yeah, i remember when he was hot for a while. i still don't remember ever wanting him to be at the plate.

[davell]

According to a Denver newspaper(no idea why they'd get this info first, but anyway) evidently Cedeno agreed to a 822,000K contract for 2009 today.

[CubsWin]

According to a Denver newspaper(no idea why they'd get this info first, but anyway) evidently Cedeno agreed to a 822,000K contract for 2009 today.

It was in the Trib. Have to scroll down to the bottom. He signed for $822,500 avoiding arbitration.

[biittner77]

I wish Rich Hill never went into that struggle. Our rotation would be set right now, as to where we probably wouldn't be discussing Peavy.

 

Zambrano

Dempster

Lilly

Harden

Hill

 

...sigh.

 

if Hill had been good last year, they never would have traded for Harden

 

I'm not so sure. A lot of people see the Harden trade as a response to the Brewers getting Sabbathia. It would have been more complicated since they would have had to unload Marquis on somebody.

[Ivy.n.Denver]

They should try Hill as a loogy in ST - God knows we need one 'cause Marshall and Cotts don't fit that bill

[jersey cubs fan]

They should try Hill as a loogy in ST - God knows we need one 'cause Marshall and Cotts don't fit that bill

 

At this point, I agree. They can't hide him in the rotation, they can't hide him in the minors. I'd try and see if he can throw strikes to one batter at a time.

[davell]

Wittenmeyer's latest column has a blurb that Pie could be dealt as early as next week, with Hill likely next to go......If this is true, do we think we try to replenish the lower minors or get whatever we can get to help the major league roster? I would lean toward the former, since we don't have many spots left open. That said, if Pie is dealt, it seems like it could very well be the death blow to any Peavy talk, depending on what we get, or at least it would seem that way, wouldn't it?

[craig]

Wittenmeyer's latest column has a blurb that Pie could be dealt as early as next week, with Hill likely next to go......If this is true, do we think we try to replenish the lower minors or get whatever we can get to help the major league roster? I would lean toward the former, since we don't have many spots left open. That said, if Pie is dealt, it seems like it could very well be the death blow to any Peavy talk, depending on what we get, or at least it would seem that way, wouldn't it?

 

I'd think they'd each probably go for minor leaguers of varying quality. Cubs have interest in lefty relievers, so anybody who could throw left-handed and has even sniffs upper minors, they might go for that. Rotation is also shallow, so if they could get somebody who might be some kind of a minor-league insurance guy, perhaps better than Atkins, that could make sense. Or if they can't get somebody who's good enough for even those kinds of roles, just take whatever low-minors guy they can who has a chance to become a major-leaguer later.

 

I'd think the guys have different values. Somebody will take Cedeno to be in the majors: I'd think he might bring back a prospect who could crack our top-20 list. Pie, maybe about the same, although perhaps lesser. Cedeno's limited offense is more acceptable at SS than Pie's no-offense is in outfield. Hill is a total wildman at this point, and a head case besides, so I don't think you're going to get anybody who would crack our top 30 for him. Probably get some 24-year-old A-ball wildman or something.

[UK1679666180]

Wittenmeyer's latest column has a blurb that Pie could be dealt as early as next week, with Hill likely next to go......If this is true, do we think we try to replenish the lower minors or get whatever we can get to help the major league roster? I would lean toward the former, since we don't have many spots left open. That said, if Pie is dealt, it seems like it could very well be the death blow to any Peavy talk, depending on what we get, or at least it would seem that way, wouldn't it?

 

I don't see Pie as a deal breaker. Given how Pie's value is right now, I expect that they would get a minor league filler at the lower levels. Even with a bad Cubs' system, I would be thrilled if whomever they get would come close to cracking the top 30. Cedeno prob. has the most value of the 3.

[CUBZ99]

Wittenmeyer's latest column has a blurb that Pie could be dealt as early as next week, with Hill likely next to go......If this is true, do we think we try to replenish the lower minors or get whatever we can get to help the major league roster? I would lean toward the former, since we don't have many spots left open. That said, if Pie is dealt, it seems like it could very well be the death blow to any Peavy talk, depending on what we get, or at least it would seem that way, wouldn't it?

 

I don't see Pie as a deal breaker. Given how Pie's value is right now, I expect that they would get a minor league filler at the lower levels. Even with a bad Cubs' system, I would be thrilled if whomever they get would come close to cracking the top 30. Cedeno prob. has the most value of the 3.

 

Trading Pie at this point is ignorant. Trading him for major league filler is even more ridiculous. I don't understand the rush to get rid of a guy that 1)is cheap 2) plays excellent defense 3) has proven himself at every level so far. Give the guy a chance already. If one of the OF's get hurt I would much rather give the time to Pie and see what he can do, than play some career backup.

[CUBZ99]

Wittenmeyer's latest column has a blurb that Pie could be dealt as early as next week, with Hill likely next to go......If this is true, do we think we try to replenish the lower minors or get whatever we can get to help the major league roster? I would lean toward the former, since we don't have many spots left open. That said, if Pie is dealt, it seems like it could very well be the death blow to any Peavy talk, depending on what we get, or at least it would seem that way, wouldn't it?

 

I'd think they'd each probably go for minor leaguers of varying quality. Cubs have interest in lefty relievers, so anybody who could throw left-handed and has even sniffs upper minors, they might go for that. Rotation is also shallow, so if they could get somebody who might be some kind of a minor-league insurance guy, perhaps better than Atkins, that could make sense. Or if they can't get somebody who's good enough for even those kinds of roles, just take whatever low-minors guy they can who has a chance to become a major-leaguer later.

 

I'd think the guys have different values. Somebody will take Cedeno to be in the majors: I'd think he might bring back a prospect who could crack our top-20 list. Pie, maybe about the same, although perhaps lesser. Cedeno's limited offense is more acceptable at SS than Pie's no-offense is in outfield. Hill is a total wildman at this point, and a head case besides, so I don't think you're going to get anybody who would crack our top 30 for him. Probably get some 24-year-old A-ball wildman or something.

 

Hill's case is really sad. It would be nice if the Cubs would try him out as a loogy in spring training, they have nothing to lose at this point his value could not be lower.

[Derwood]

Wittenmeyer's latest column has a blurb that Pie could be dealt as early as next week, with Hill likely next to go......If this is true, do we think we try to replenish the lower minors or get whatever we can get to help the major league roster? I would lean toward the former, since we don't have many spots left open. That said, if Pie is dealt, it seems like it could very well be the death blow to any Peavy talk, depending on what we get, or at least it would seem that way, wouldn't it?

 

I don't see Pie as a deal breaker. Given how Pie's value is right now, I expect that they would get a minor league filler at the lower levels. Even with a bad Cubs' system, I would be thrilled if whomever they get would come close to cracking the top 30. Cedeno prob. has the most value of the 3.

 

Trading Pie at this point is ignorant. Trading him for major league filler is even more ridiculous. I don't understand the rush to get rid of a guy that 1)is cheap 2) plays excellent defense 3) has proven himself at every level so far. Give the guy a chance already. If one of the OF's get hurt I would much rather give the time to Pie and see what he can do, than play some career backup.

 

he's out of options, so you either need to make room for him on the major league bench or risk losing him for nothing

[aeathin2]

Pie traded to Baltimore for Garret Olson

 

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9097924/Sources:-Cubs-trade-CF-Pie-to-Orioles

[Post Count Padder]

That was fast.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Wow, that seems like a really nice deal considering how Pie's been handled.

[BigbadB]

This is an excellent trade. It's weird that the Cubs, who virtually had zero trade value with Pie, were able to get a guy with Olson's ability while at the same time, got next to nothing for DeRosa who's trade value probably couldn't have been any higher.

 

I trust that the next move will be:

 

Olson, Stevens, Archer, Gaub, Hill, Cedeno and Vitters for Peavy

[Post Count Padder]

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/W/Hank-Williamson.shtml

 

This is the minor leaguer we got in the trade. That ERA looks deceptive compared to his K/9 and walk totals.

[Sammy Sofa]

Nice move.

[PrimeTime]

Does this mean a move for Peavy since we have Olsen, who the Pads wanted and those guys from the DeRosa trade?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Williamson was old for the New York Penn League last year, but he mowed down hitters there (34/5 K/BB in 22.2 IP). He also did well in a couple Sally League appearances at the end of the year(8/0 K/BB in 6.1 IP). Anyone with more info? He's a big guy at 6-5, but I wonder if he had an injury that kept his innings down in 2007 and 2008.

[BigbadB]

Does this mean a move for Peavy since we have Olsen, who the Pads wanted and those guys from the DeRosa trade?

 

All the moves that were supposedly necessary to make a Peavy deal have now happened. In December, the rumors were that Marquis would need to be traded to make Peavy's contract fit, DeRosa would need to be traded to bring the necessary talent to send to San Diego, and Pie would be traded to Baltimore for Olson, who would then be moved to San Diego.

 

I'm a bit concerned about the players that we got back for DeRosa being the type of players that San Diego would want, as I would have thought that David Huff or Adam Miller would be much more attractive to the Padres.

[JeffH]

I believe Olson has one option year left.

[CubColtPacer]

Does this mean a move for Peavy since we have Olsen, who the Pads wanted and those guys from the DeRosa trade?

 

I doubt this is a signal that a Peavy move is in any way imminent because of no ownership change, but I'm sure that leaving the door open for a possible Peavy move was in Hendry's mind when he was deciding where to send Pie.

 

If nothing else, Olson might step into that swingman role that Marshall might be vacating and become that second left-hander out of the pen. He also has 1 option left in case the Cubs need to use it.

[cubsfan26]

Wow it sure looks like Hendry is setting himself up for a potential Peavy deal. Even if we don't get Peavy though, this is a solid trade for us.

[JeffH]

"Garrett Olson" - Baltimore-ese for "Andy Pratt"?