2024 NFL Draft

[Tryptamine]

22 hours ago, BigSlick said:

There's something weird happening re: the valuation of QBs in this draft, and it may be just the eyeball economy of clicks and attention, but there's all this talk about Jayden Daniels and JJ McCarthy and a concordant devaluation of Drake Maye. 

Maye is a way better prospect than those guys. He's kinda gotten squashed between the rightful attention that Caleb Williams has gotten and the rising interest in Daniels and McCarthy due to how their seasons ended but... there's no way in my mind anyone should feel disappointed in him as a prospect and he's not just a consolation prize. Dude can ball. 

 

If we're talking strictly arm talent, then Maye is number 1 in this class. The guy can make every throw there is. The things that hold him back from being on par with Caleb Williams is the difference in mobility and decision making. Maye can make every throw, but because of that he tries to make every throw and he's going to need to learn some restraint in the NFL or he's going to throw throw 30 TD and 30 INT a year. 

[soccer10k]

1 hour ago, Derwood said:

And Tebow is arguably a top 5 best player in college history. Doesn’t mean he’ll do anything at the next level. 

The difference being McCarthy can actually throw the ball while Tebow couldn’t. I’m not saying McCarthy is good or won’t be a bust. Just that comparing him to Tebow isn’t fair.

[Outshined_One]

You know it's a slow news day when you're browsing thinkpieces and articles on Jayden Daniels' weirdass elbow.

[Derwood]

3 hours ago, soccer10k said:

The difference being McCarthy can actually throw the ball while Tebow couldn’t. I’m not saying McCarthy is good or won’t be a bust. Just that comparing him to Tebow isn’t fair.

I mean, Tebow threw for nearly 10,000 yards in college, with better YPA, INT:TD ratio, and QB Rating than McCarthy

[jumbo]

Texans trade for Stefon Diggs, give up 2025 second

They gonna be stacked 

[Tryptamine]

So  Buffalo more or less has to take a WR in the 1st now that they're without Diggs and Davis. I would not advocate it and it would take a huge huge haul, but I'd bet they're desperate to move up to #9.To move all the way back to #28, for me, would require at least #28 this year, '25 1st and '24 pick 60 and probably the '25 2nd too. Even with that "overpay" I'm still not sure I'd be real happy.  

Edited April 4, 2024 by Tryptamine

[gflore34]

1 hour ago, Tryptamine said:

So  Buffalo more or less has to take a WR in the 1st now that they're without Diggs and Davis. I would not advocate it and it would take a huge huge haul, but I'd bet they're desperate to move up to #9.To move all the way back to #28, for me, would require at least #28 this year, '25 1st and '24 pick 60 and probably the '25 2nd too. Even with that "overpay" I'm still not sure I'd be real happy.  

When discussing his options a #9 Poles mentioned WR as a position they're looking to fill.  Believe it was among the first things he said, don't know if it means anything however, I believe if Harrison Jr., Nabers or Odunze is there the Bears will keep the pick and take one of those three.  If those three are gone at #9, I believe Poles will look to trade down and go DE and WR.  Of course, given the big three at WR are gone, it would not make much sense for Buffalo to trade up looking for a WR.  Unless they have someone like Thomas in the same group as those three.

Edited April 4, 2024 by gflore34

[Tryptamine]

Thomas is the only WR I'd be ok with them trading down to grab. I think his upside is extremely high.

[Outshined_One]

I have zero interest in trading for 2025 picks with teams likely to make the playoffs next year.

[sneakypower]

On 3/28/2024 at 9:12 PM, Derwood said:

If JJ McCarthy has more than a Tim Tebow-esque pro career I'll eat my hat

i'm trying and failing to think of a single athletic trait or similarity these two share

[BigSlick]

It's not about how they're similar physically or whatever, they're similar in that they aren't good at throwing footballs 

 

Listen, it's whatever, we can't settle this debate for another 2-3 years, but I also do not believe he will be a good quarterback

Edited April 4, 2024 by BigSlick

[minnesotacubsfan]

1 hour ago, sneakypower said:

i'm trying and failing to think of a single athletic trait or similarity these two share

not quite tebow:

 

[Tryptamine]

33 minutes ago, minnesotacubsfan said:

not quite tebow:

 

These guys are definitely huge Zac Efron fans. 

[sneakypower]

5 hours ago, BigSlick said:

It's not about how they're similar physically or whatever, they're similar in that they aren't good at throwing footballs

that's quite literally his biggest strength, like there are so many other facets to QB play tangible & intangible where i can't tell you with confidence that he'll meaningfully succeed in the League or not but he's an innately great passer while Tebow was the clear worst in recent memory:

https://i.gifer.com/HroA.gif

[Derwood]

2 hours ago, sneakypower said:

that's quite literally his biggest strength, like there are so many other facets to QB play tangible & intangible where i can't tell you with confidence that he'll meaningfully succeed in the League or not but he's an innately great passer while Tebow was the clear worst in recent memory:

https://i.gifer.com/HroA.gif

9200 yards and 88 TD in Tebow's college career.

College success =/= NFL success is all I'm saying. McCarthy feels like one of dozens of good college players who just won't make it at the next level

[CubinNY]

8 hours ago, Derwood said:

9200 yards and 88 TD in Tebow's college career.

College success =/= NFL success is all I'm saying. McCarthy feels like one of dozens of good college players who just won't make it at the next level

Feels. 

Even the pro scouts can't predict this. He has the size, arm, and quickness to be a prototypical professional QB. His major issue is that he played for Harbaugh and they were so good relative to their conference and nonconference schedule for much of his career he didn't get to put up gaudy numbers. The other issue is health. 

Tebow was a hype-created monster who threw a football like a baseball player, didn't have a strong arm, and wasn't a good decision-maker.  If you want to compare McCarthy to someone there are about half a dozen 2nd string QBs in the league that he resembles. 

[BigbadB]

23 hours ago, Tryptamine said:

So  Buffalo more or less has to take a WR in the 1st now that they're without Diggs and Davis. I would not advocate it and it would take a huge huge haul, but I'd bet they're desperate to move up to #9.To move all the way back to #28, for me, would require at least #28 this year, '25 1st and '24 pick 60 and probably the '25 2nd too. Even with that "overpay" I'm still not sure I'd be real happy.  

Buffalo isn't moving into the top 8 from 28. No one will want to slide down that far in the draft. There will still be 1st round talent at WR at pick #28. I'm not sure why people think there is a story about Buffalo stealing a Bears WR candidate at 9. All you have to do is look at the year Justin Jefferson got drafted and ask if it's really a smart thing to do to give up draft capital to move up in the draft when there are so many talented WR's available this year.

 

[Soul]

Oh for crying out loud get an Uber.

[Old Style]

Double murderer OJ Simpson has ridden the highway to hell. 

[cwood218]

4 hours ago, Old Style said:

Double murderer OJ Simpson has ridden the highway to hell. 

But ... but twelve stupid people found him not guilty.

 

[Brian707]

7 minutes ago, cwood218 said:

But ... but twelve stupid people found him not guilty 

 

I am in no way defending OJ, but the blame goes with the prosecution more than with the jury.

Edited April 11, 2024 by Brian707

[jumbo]

4 hours ago, Brian707 said:

I am in no way defending OJ, but the blame goes with the prosecution more than with the jury.

Just like when Kramer had the beautiful woman try on the bra over her blouse! He shouldn't have listened to his caddie, Sid, I think it was. 

[raw]

8 hours ago, Old Style said:

Double murderer OJ Simpson has ridden the highway to hell. 

Going to definitely hurt his chances of getting drafted in the 2024 NFL Draft

[Old Style]

1 hour ago, raw said:

Going to definitely hurt his chances of getting drafted in the 2024 NFL Draft

Eh, there wasn’t an NFL offseason thread so I put it here. Deal with it. 

[Outshined_One]

30 minutes ago, Old Style said:

Eh, there wasn’t an NFL offseason thread so I put it here. Deal with it. 

Sigh.

FIIIIIIIINE.