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[Tryptamine]

9 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

I hate to say it, I was ok with the 4th and 1 call too. I don’t know about the playcall, I was half watching while getting ready to coach a tball game but thought the potential upside of getting the first far outweighed the risk. 

100% ok with going on 4th and 1. My issue is that the play call is a run up the gut. There's no imagination at all in Getsy. Give Fields the ball and let him throw or if it isn't there, let him run. If you don't  trust him in the best game of his NFL career to pick up that 1 yard then that's it.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Just now, Tryptamine said:

100% ok with going on 4th and 1. My issue is that the play call is a run up the gut. There's no imagination at all in Getsy. Give Fields the ball and let him throw or if it isn't there, let him run. If you don't  trust him in the best game of his NFL career to pick up that 1 yard then that's it.

I tend to agree, but also had the Bears any kind of defense this game never goes this direction. No pass rush whatsoever 

[Tryptamine]

Just now, minnesotacubsfan said:

I tend to agree, but also had the Bears any kind of defense this game never goes this direction. No pass rush whatsoever 

What? They had their 2nd sack of the season today. They're up to .5 a sack a game average. Do you expect them to average a whole sack a game? 

[UMFan83]

 

[minnesotacubsfan]

I realize they gave up a 2nd rd pick, but everyone knows Claypool is headed for the outdoor in the nfl. Why beat around tge bush? It was a gamble they had to take to try and get Fields some help, but it’s time, cut the chord. They’ll have a great shot at Harrison Jr anyway

[UMFan83]

If the Bears are smart they will start gameplanning now on how to tie the Panthers when they play in a few weeks

[minnesotacubsfan]

3 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

If the Bears are smart they will start gameplanning now on how to tie the Panthers when they play in a few weeks

I’m a homer, but more than anything I want to see JF turn around his career. The panthers can still net us Harrison. We could pick #1 and like 5 or 6 and get a decent LT or DT

[gflore34]

34 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

100% ok with going on 4th and 1. My issue is that the play call is a run up the gut. There's no imagination at all in Getsy. Give Fields the ball and let him throw or if it isn't there, let him run. If you don't  trust him in the best game of his NFL career to pick up that 1 yard then that's it.

Taking the ball out Fields hands, this whole trust BS with Getsy, he needs to fired, yeah there's a lack of talent.  But, reason number 1 is the coaching, there needs to be a change and it cannot wait until the end of the season.  I'd keep Claypool before this coaching staff and, that's saying something, because, Claypool is a waste of a physical specimen.

Edited October 2, 2023 by gflore34

[minnesotacubsfan]

16 minutes ago, gflore34 said:

Taking the ball out Fields hands, this whole trust BS with Getsy, he needs to fired, yeah there's a lack of talent.  But, reason number 1 is the coaching, there needs to be a change and it cannot wait until the end of the season.  I'd keep Claypool before this coaching staff and, that's saying something, because, Claypool is a waste of a physical specimen.

Claypool should model, football isn’t his strong point

[Old Style]

1 hour ago, Tryptamine said:

What? They had their 2nd sack of the season today. They're up to .5 a sack a game average. Do you expect them to average a whole sack a game? 

Meanwhile Khalil Mack had SIX sacks today. I wish we had a guy like him. 

[Tim]

I missed the second half and just watched the highlights. Are all of these statements correct:

• Once we built the lead to 28-7, our defense-first coach went stupidly conservative when throwing the ball was working
• The o-line racked up a whole bunch of stupid penalties that put the 4th quarter drives in jeapardy
• The 4th down call seemed good to me, but the play call seemed crappy
• The defense still stinks badly

[Wilson A2000]

4 hours ago, Soul said:

Come on if ever an in-season firing was in order this is it.

Who is the replacement coach? I’d say Lovie.

[Old Style]

14 minutes ago, Wilson A2000 said:

Who is the replacement coach? I’d say Lovie.

Hiring anyone off the street corner in the worst neighborhood in Chicago would be an upgrade over the horsefeathers moron we’ve got now. 

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I mean, I got what I asked for from Fields.  He looked decisive today.  It's hard to believe how bad Denver's coverage was on some of those plays, but he was hitting them decisvely in the first half.  There's been times where he hesitates and wide open guys become contested catches in the past, but I didn't see much of it in the first half.  A little regression in the second half.

Like I said during the game, that 1st and 15 in the first half where he hit Moore was *exactly* what I've been wanting to see from him. Moore wasn't "open."  It was man coverage and the defender was pretty close.  If Fields doesn't throw that ball, we spend a day this week looking at screenshots and arguing that it's not his fault on that play because no one was open. But good NFL Qbs consistently throw guys open against coverage like that.

The turnovers? I mean, Justin FIelds has a fumbling problem and if he's your QB you just have to live with that.  The interception doesn't bother me *that* much.  If you want a QB who gives his receivers a chance and drives the ball down the field, you have to live with a few of those. Not a lot, but not zero.

I'm not like going out and buying a Fields jersey tomorrow, but I can't ask for him to do X-Y-Z and then not say "OK, he did it" when he does X, Y and Z.

Kudos to the coaching staff for making the right decision on Claypool and not giving in to sunk cost fallacy.

The defense is just LOL fun bad.  I bought into the "maybe Poles" is a secret genius hype, but really this is exactly what you get when you run an outdated scheme and refuse to invest in a profesional pass rush.

Being 1-2 in the tank standings is low-key impressive and i hope we hold it the whole way.

[Soul]

41 minutes ago, Wilson A2000 said:

Who is the replacement coach? I’d say Lovie.

I’m available.

[minnesotacubsfan]

26 minutes ago, Old Style said:

Hiring anyone off the street corner in the worst neighborhood in Chicago would be an upgrade over the horsefeathers moron we’ve got now. 

So, like, Naperville?

[Soul]

26 minutes ago, Old Style said:

Hiring anyone off the street corner in the worst neighborhood in Chicago would be an upgrade over the horsefeathers moron we’ve got now. 

I’ll go in there with NSBB up on my smartphone and take plays from the board.  I can’t see it being any worse.

[Old Style]

23 minutes ago, minnesotacubsfan said:

So, like, Naperville?

Oh no. Twitter has taught me that the suburbs are in no way affiliated with Chicago. It’s a completely different world out there. 

[minnesotacubsfan]

17 minutes ago, Old Style said:

Oh no. Twitter has taught me that the suburbs are in no way affiliated with Chicago. It’s a completely different world out there. 

It is a different world, but it’s still all just Chicago

[PosterToBeNamedLater]

I think my eyes rolled all the way around and back when coming back from halftime, the sideline reporter talked about her discussion with Eberflus, saying that he said "Fields has been incredibly efficient, etc, but we are going to be relying on our defense in the 2nd half."  

[BigbadB]

13 hours ago, UMFan83 said:

 

Fields called Claypool and Claypool told him that Eberflus told him to stay home, so Eberflus was basically lying that Claypool just stayed home on his own. 

At this point, I wouldn't let this coaching staff trade him. An embarrassment to Washington on Thursday, and it's the coaching staff that needs to be shown the door, not a WR who basically told the truth even if he (of all people) should have kept his mouth shut. This management team is in way over their heads and the fallout from this game is probably not something they can overcome. 

 

[CubinNY]

The Patriots, Jets, Bengals, Broncos, Cardinals, and Raiders are 1-3. The Giants are 1-2. Only the Bears and Panthers are 0-4. It doesn't matter if the Bears win or lose against the Panthers. They are going to be the two worst teams in the NFL. 

It's awful, but it's also an opportunity. If they fire Poles and his staff now, put in placeholders, and start working on who they want to put in their place and trade assets they can use, they can set themselves up for a Hershall Walker-like haul of players. 

They won't do it and will miss an opportunity that comes around maybe once every 30 years. 

[BigSlick]

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Edited October 2, 2023 by BigSlick

[BigSlick]

I was so outrageously mad at the end of the game partly because it was so damn *predictable* when it was 28-14 and you could start seeing the script play out. It was also against the Broncos, with the famous Marion Barber stay-in-bounds game. It all was too damn perfect.

 

At the end of the day....the anger faded and what can you do. This team is garbage, and when your team is bad, its better to lean into being *more* bad than to just be middling. But it sucks to see Fields so demoralized, and it double sucks to have him have a sterling game get marred by two mistakes (with each arguably not entirely his fault), but....another disturbing game where Fields has the opportunity to win the game in the end and he is unable to do so. At a certain point, I hate to say it, that becomes a meaningful thing. 

[gflore34]

Still not getting why, at the very least, Getsy remains a Bears coach.  Your embattled QB is playing well, finally, looking like a competent passer and you take the ball out of his hands on the most crucial play of the game?  How could Fields not be totally enraged?  I really hope, should a similar opportunity arise in the future, that Fields will horsefeathers this horsefeathers and takes matters into his own hands.  Most especially if it's Getsy again calling for some BS short-yardage play.