Bears week 3 @ KC, Sunday 3:25 on FOX

[gflore34]

1 hour ago, jumbo said:

I actually watched the whole QB School video of the Bucs game and there are definitely open receivers at the top of the drop. Snap, Drop, Read, Throw gets a lot more points than what Fields did last week. Insert your favorite nameless/faceless QB who can just operate, like an Andy Dalton type and it's hard to imagine it not being better than what Fields has been doing. Bagent just sounds more exciting than Peterman. What do they say, the backup QB is the most popular guy in the city? 

Hopefully "F-It" Fields gripping it and ripping it makes more plays in the passing game. They're there to be had. One of the sacks he took last week showed both Tampa LBs just hanging out spying him with a four man rush. Five receivers were out in the patterns, seems impossible that no one was open enough to throw it to, but it should be a massive advantage to the passing game to have them spying like that. 

Knowing this line with their favorite LT he will have plenty of opportunities to take off and run like hell. The one thing he can't do is stand in the pocket for more than a couple beats. Make the drop, trust your receivers, throw it and if it's not there scramble. 

It will be fun to see what happens, but I'm not getting my hopes up. 

I watched some of his play from the 2021 Sugar Bowl, I know plenty here, including me, are down of Fields. However, I didn't see any of the garbage we've seen to open the season in that game.  Left foot back, quick drops, rip it, even, gasp, anticipation throws, college defenses are for horsefeathers nevertheless, if that Fields shows up, it'll be for the better.

[Brian707]

7 minutes ago, jersey cubs fan said:

Why the horsefeathers do people keep using the term cover up? 

I wondered it wrong. I personally do not think the Bears are part of some cover up. But yes people have been saying that for some stupid reason 

[Derwood]

1 hour ago, cl smooth said:

https://x.com/nfl_gavinsamson/status/1704898015008309602

 

Well if Pat McAfee and his sleeveless t-shirt said so...

[CubinNY]

32 minutes ago, Brian707 said:

I wondered it wrong. I personally do not think the Bears are part of some cover up. But yes people have been saying that for some stupid reason 

There may be very good reasons why that have not been more forthcoming that have to do with law enforcement requests or with their own liability (not that they are complicit) due to the nature of whatever this guy did. Or he may not have done anything and he asked them not to say anything because he doesn't want the information released. Like if his wife is sick or his kid is sick or whatever. 

All we know is that the guy asked for and was granted a leave of absence and then he resigned. The Bears, to our knowledge, have done nothing but grant the leave and accept the resignation. They're under no obligation from anyone to release any information. 

[WrigleyField 22]

Guys, it takes like 2 seconds to click through a tweet and look for obvious red flags in the user profile.

[Outshined_One]

8 minutes ago, CubinNY said:

They're under no obligation from anyone to release any information. 

It's also a two edged sword if criminal liability is a possibility for anyone involved here. On the one hand, any statement providing any specificity or detail could (a) interfere with a pending investigation, and/or (b) open the Bears up to potential civil or criminal liability. You don't need to be under oath for the feds to pursue criminal liability if you lied to them, and public statements could easily contradict private ones made to investigators. On the other hand, silence just begets more questions and frustration.

It sucks because this whole situation is completely bizarre and the Bears are terrible with PR and media. But if there is a criminal investigation, then we're not going to hear anything about it unless and until the indictments drop.

[WrigleyField 22]

53 minutes ago, jersey cubs fan said:

Why the horsefeathers do people keep using the term cover up? 

People really be thinking that the solution to CP (if that is it) is to go rogue and blast it to the world rather than let Law Enforcement do their job.

[UMFan83]

Switching topics a bit.  Ignore the sensationalist text of the tweet that claims Moore responded "Tell me about it" because I don't hear that, but other team's opponents are telling Moore he isnt being used right is funny in a sad way.

 

 

[Cubfanintheknow]

1 hour ago, jersey cubs fan said:

Why would you share this obvious nobody making an oddly specific claim being reported absolutely nowhere else?

When your corroborating source is the Pat MacAfee show, you have problems.

[cl smooth]

I pulled a Derwood. Apologies. 

[gflore34]

46 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

Switching topics a bit.  Ignore the sensationalist text of the tweet that claims Moore responded "Tell me about it" because I don't hear that, but other team's opponents are telling Moore he isnt being used right is funny in a sad way.

 

 

Doubt anything positive will come of it nevertheless, aren't good things allowed to happen for the Bears?  Since the Bears are the current laughing stock of the NFL must, every horsefeathers outcome be bad?

[minnesotacubsfan]

we have to blame Papa Bear, at one time he had Bobby Layne, Johnny Lujack and Sid Luckman

 

https://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/ct-ent-sid-luckman-story-kogan-0915-20190911-uiarxazfobhxlipedspyyv4pay-story.html

Edited September 21, 2023 by minnesotacubsfan

[Wilson A2000]

Do the players even know what actually happened with Alan Williams?

[Hairyducked Idiot]

It's kind of a touchy subject in the industry (or at least it was, I've been out for 10+ years and I was barely even in before da bum took my job) but there's also the element that sports journalists just aren't the right fit for this kind of story.  The guys who make a career out of buddying up to coaches and players aren't going to be the ones with sources in law enforcement.  Could be heavily contributing to the cloudiness around what's happening.

[Outshined_One]

16 minutes ago, Wilson A2000 said:

Do the players even know what actually happened with Alan Williams?

By all accounts, no.

[Wilson A2000]

29 minutes ago, Hairyducked Idiot said:

It's kind of a touchy subject in the industry (or at least it was, I've been out for 10+ years and I was barely even in before da bum took my job) but there's also the element that sports journalists just aren't the right fit for this kind of story.  The guys who make a career out of buddying up to coaches and players aren't going to be the ones with sources in law enforcement.  Could be heavily contributing to the cloudiness around what's happening.

And that the Bears in general handle PR and the media really weirdly

[PosterToBeNamedLater]

2 hours ago, Wilson A2000 said:

Do the players even know what actually happened with Alan Williams?

Also

 

[jersey cubs fan]

2 hours ago, Hairyducked Idiot said:

It's kind of a touchy subject in the industry (or at least it was, I've been out for 10+ years and I was barely even in before da bum took my job) but there's also the element that sports journalists just aren't the right fit for this kind of story.  The guys who make a career out of buddying up to coaches and players aren't going to be the ones with sources in law enforcement.  Could be heavily contributing to the cloudiness around what's happening.

No beat writer or radio host is going to have this story, but there are a lot of investigative journalists in the sports world that are probably all over this story right now. The athletic employs a few people that have reported on sex crime situations across the sports spectrum. ESPN has fired their best but still have people capable of looking at this story with journalistic integrity. 
 

this isn’t some D3 coach quietly pushed aside in a one stoplight town. 
 

There are people in sports journalism that can get this story and also plenty of journalists working at publications that have sports sections that can do the job. 
 

nobody thinks Zach Zeidman is breaking up the story 

[WrigleyField 22]

1 hour ago, jersey cubs fan said:

No beat writer or radio host is going to have this story, but there are a lot of investigative journalists in the sports world that are probably all over this story right now. The athletic employs a few people that have reported on sex crime situations across the sports spectrum. ESPN has fired their best but still have people capable of looking at this story with journalistic integrity. 
 

this isn’t some D3 coach quietly pushed aside in a one stoplight town. 
 

There are people in sports journalism that can get this story and also plenty of journalists working at publications that have sports sections that can do the job. 
 

nobody thinks Zach Zeidman is breaking up the story 

Oh there's defintiely some angry Twitter idiots who thing the beat writers are sitting on the story. 

[UMFan83]

Finally an answer to why we cut Peterman and then resigned him

 

 

[BigbadB]

The timing on the Williams thing seems a bit weird, also. If he really did/does have CP on his computer at home, why was Williams given time off ahead of the supposed raid? Was Williams tipped off that a raid was coming, and he went home and watched tv instead of hiding evidence? Was he doing something during this "personal time" that alarmed someone to get the Feds involved? 

Might need some popcorn for this one.

[WrigleyField 22]

16 minutes ago, BigbadB said:

The timing on the Williams thing seems a bit weird, also. If he really did/does have CP on his computer at home, why was Williams given time off ahead of the supposed raid? Was Williams tipped off that a raid was coming, and he went home and watched tv instead of hiding evidence? Was he doing something during this "personal time" that alarmed someone to get the Feds involved? 

Might need some popcorn for this one.

If it's a CP issue then I'll speak from a 2nd hand story I'm familiar with. But certainly this is not from a trained legal view.

 

The short answer is that there's zero chance he was tipped off.. And he was then granted his leave not from his own free recognizance, but from custody of agents.  I don't think anyone has claimed that AW has been seen by anyone at HH since the initial report last week.

 

The other possible explanation is it's not him, but someone in his home, but maybe he's not totally clears at this point.

[mul21]

7 minutes ago, WrigleyField 22 said:

If it's a CP issue then I'll speak from a 2nd hand story I'm familiar with. But certainly this is not from a trained legal view.

 

The short answer is that there's zero chance he was tipped off.. And he was then granted his leave not from his own free recognizance, but from custody of agents.  I don't think anyone has claimed that AW has been seen by anyone at HH since the initial report last week.

 

The other possible explanation is it's not him, but someone in his home, but maybe he's not totally clears at this point.

Based on what his lawyer said on the Score the other day, I would think it's most likely that it involves someone in his home, but not him.  Everything he said was couched in a very odd manner but he was very clear that Williams was not in any criminal trouble.

[WrigleyField 22]

20 minutes ago, mul21 said:

Based on what his lawyer said on the Score the other day, I would think it's most likely that it involves someone in his home, but not him.  Everything he said was couched in a very odd manner but he was very clear that Williams was not in any criminal trouble.

It's possible. Although, the Bears have been extra terse in their official responses. If it was just a case of a family member, he might still get a "well wish" while out the door in the official resignation announcement. 

 

But yea, AW hasn't been directly heard from as far as I can tell. Even his resignation letter wasn't signed. 

Edited September 22, 2023 by WrigleyField 22

[gflore34]

Based upon what we've thus far seen from Young maybe, it's true that Poles was not enamored of any of the QB prospects and decided to roll the dice with Fields.  Had he been sold, I don't believe he would have hesitated to trade Fields and take his QB.