Rich Hill traded to Baltimore for PTBNL

[questionmarkgrace]

I never really bought in to Rich Hill and consistently said he should be traded. As Ive said before at best he's Al Lieter which isnt that great at worst he is ... Rich Hill. Im pretty confident he will never have much of a career at least as a starter. His worst attribute is his lack of mental toughness. Big hits, too many walks, men of base rattle this young man like it would a highschooler. I would imagine the AL east will be greeting him quite rudely. Its a shame he wasnt traded last year.

[TruffleShuffle]

I never really bought in to Rich Hill and consistently said he should be traded. As Ive said before at best he's Al Lieter which isnt that great at worst he is ... Rich Hill. Im pretty confident he will never have much of a career at least as a starter. His worst attribute is his lack of mental toughness. Big hits, too many walks, men of base rattle this young man like it would a highschooler. I would imagine the AL east will be greeting him quite rudely. Its a shame he wasnt traded last year.

 

i'm pretty confident he won't have much of a career too, but it's a lot easier to say that now after he completely lost it for an entire year. if you thought he was going to be a complete flop before last season then you should seek out a career in baseball, because you know more than pretty much everybody.

[Mephistopheles]

al leiter had a pretty damn good run of things from the mid to late 90s

[abuck1220]

ah, psychoanalyzing rich hill...i'll miss those good times.

[Schwarber Fan]

Looks like the M's are also interested and could send back a major league pitcher...

 

If Seattle could tempt the Cubs with one of their best-paid pitchers – Miguel Batista ($9 million in 2009), Jarrod Washburn ($10.3 million) or Carlos Silva ($11) – in exchange for Hill, that would probably clear the way toward the club making Abreu, who made $16 million last year, a legitimate offer.

 

http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/baseball/archives/160872.asp

[BigbadB]

I'd fall over laughing if Hendry traded Hill for anyone of Batista, Silva or Washburn.

[Outshined_One]

Looks like the M's are also interested and could send back a major league pitcher...

 

If Seattle could tempt the Cubs with one of their best-paid pitchers – Miguel Batista ($9 million in 2009), Jarrod Washburn ($10.3 million) or Carlos Silva ($11) – in exchange for Hill, that would probably clear the way toward the club making Abreu, who made $16 million last year, a legitimate offer.

 

http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/baseball/archives/160872.asp

 

I'm also sure the Giants would love to part with Barry Zito in exchange for Rich Hill.

[erik316wttn]

Looks like the M's are also interested and could send back a major league pitcher...

 

If Seattle could tempt the Cubs with one of their best-paid pitchers – Miguel Batista ($9 million in 2009), Jarrod Washburn ($10.3 million) or Carlos Silva ($11) – in exchange for Hill, that would probably clear the way toward the club making Abreu, who made $16 million last year, a legitimate offer.

 

http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/baseball/archives/160872.asp

 

I'm also sure the Giants would love to part with Barry Zito in exchange for Rich Hill.

 

if they eat about 3/4ths of that contract, sure. But that'll never happen, so I'm not worried.

[CubinNY]

I so wanted to hire Rick Petersen, who utilizes a lot of psychology as a pitching coach, to work one on one with Hill and act as a pitching coordinator throughout the system.

 

 

Except that job way way way beneath him.

Yeah. Better than unemployment, right?

 

 

Wow, I had no idea no one had picked him up.

He works "free-lance" and has started an academy. I think he's too smart for most managers to handle.

[RedFlash]

Looks like the M's are also interested and could send back a major league pitcher...

 

If Seattle could tempt the Cubs with one of their best-paid pitchers – Miguel Batista ($9 million in 2009), Jarrod Washburn ($10.3 million) or Carlos Silva ($11) – in exchange for Hill, that would probably clear the way toward the club making Abreu, who made $16 million last year, a legitimate offer.

 

http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/baseball/archives/160872.asp

 

Sorry Seattle, you want us to give up a cheap LH starter for one of three garbage pitchers? I hate to break it to Seattle but the Cubs already have better versions of those guys already on the team (Heilman/Dempster and Lilly). THE only way I would take any of the three (Silva is not even a chance) on the Cubs would be if the Mariners "tempt the Cubs" with taking Kevin Gregg along with Hill PLUS adding an arm like Aumont, Juan Ramirez, or Michael Pinieda. Seeing as Seattle wouldn't do that, I wouldn't touch Batista/Washburn or Silva at all if I was the Cubs. Seattle would have to be willing to eat a lot of the contract, or give up a top prospect if they want to move one of these scrubs.

Edited January 31, 2009 by RedFlash

[Cubswin11]

I know he was/still might be hurt, but is there anyway we might be able to get Bedard? What was his injury even? Was it serious?

[Gingerballs Lives]

I'd fall over laughing if Hendry traded Hill for anyone of Batista, Silva or Washburn.

 

 

Agreed. Those guys are terrible.

 

Silva mine as well be just going up into the stands and taking people's money out of their pockets.

[Cubswin11]

I'd fall over laughing if Hendry traded Hill for anyone of Batista, Silva or Washburn.

 

 

Agreed. Those guys are terrible.

 

Silva mine as well be just going up into the stands and taking people's money out of their pockets.

Or just pick one of them to pitch for him every game, the results wouldn't be any worse.

[questionmarkgrace]

Even when he was good it just seemed obvious that he was still fighting himself out there. He had that deer in the head lights look everytime someone got a big hit. And he was very pre-occupied with men on base. Plus you just cant live off of one pitch in the majors. Yeah he had a great hook but a mediocre 88-90 mph fast ball and a non-existant change makes it hard to be perfect.

[Guest]

Even when he was good it just seemed obvious that he was still fighting himself out there. He had that deer in the head lights look everytime someone got a big hit. And he was very pre-occupied with men on base. Plus you just cant live off of one pitch in the majors. Yeah he had a great hook but a mediocre 88-90 mph fast ball and a non-existant change makes it hard to be perfect.

Question: Did you watch the Cubs in 2006/07?

[TruffleShuffle]

Looks like the M's are also interested and could send back a major league pitcher...

 

If Seattle could tempt the Cubs with one of their best-paid pitchers – Miguel Batista ($9 million in 2009), Jarrod Washburn ($10.3 million) or Carlos Silva ($11) – in exchange for Hill, that would probably clear the way toward the club making Abreu, who made $16 million last year, a legitimate offer.

 

http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/baseball/archives/160872.asp

 

oh right... in other words, if the mariners could find someone else to take on the expensive trash that their former idiot GM signed, then they could sign bobby abreu. good luck dumping any of those guys... if the cubs have to eat money to get rid of jason marquis then the m's are going to have to eat like 80% of those contracts.

[Oscar Zamora]

Although like many of you, i just wish we would have traded him last year but what i don't get is, if hendry wanted to trade hill all along (at least the last few months) then why not include him in the the pie deal. Why does he have to trade rich hill in a seperate deal-- especially to the same team?

[Rob]

I so wanted to hire Rick Petersen, who utilizes a lot of psychology as a pitching coach, to work one on one with Hill and act as a pitching coordinator throughout the system.

 

 

Except that job way way way beneath him.

Yeah. Better than unemployment, right?

 

 

Wow, I had no idea no one had picked him up.

He works "free-lance" and has started an academy. I think he's too smart for most managers to handle.

 

You do realize that he was the driving force behind the Kazmir for Victor Zambrano trade, right?

[CubinNY]

I so wanted to hire Rick Petersen, who utilizes a lot of psychology as a pitching coach, to work one on one with Hill and act as a pitching coordinator throughout the system.

 

 

Except that job way way way beneath him.

Yeah. Better than unemployment, right?

 

 

Wow, I had no idea no one had picked him up.

He works "free-lance" and has started an academy. I think he's too smart for most managers to handle.

 

You do realize that he was the driving force behind the Kazmir for Victor Zambrano trade, right?

So what? He didn't like Kazmir's mechanics and thought he was an injury risk and Kazmir wouldn't listen to him. It was a pretty stupid trade but he didn't make it.

 

I'd take Peterson over anyone else every time.

[SouthSideRyan]

I so wanted to hire Rick Petersen, who utilizes a lot of psychology as a pitching coach, to work one on one with Hill and act as a pitching coordinator throughout the system.

 

 

Except that job way way way beneath him.

Yeah. Better than unemployment, right?

 

 

Wow, I had no idea no one had picked him up.

He works "free-lance" and has started an academy. I think he's too smart for most managers to handle.

 

You do realize that he was the driving force behind the Kazmir for Victor Zambrano trade, right?

So what? He didn't like Kazmir's mechanics and thought he was an injury risk and Kazmir wouldn't listen to him. It was a pretty stupid trade but he didn't make it.

 

I'd take Peterson over anyone else every time.

 

Plus, he could fix Victor Zambrano in 10 minutes.

[PrimeTime]

Roto

 

The Baltimore Sun reports that the Orioles are on the verge of acquiring Rich Hill from the Cubs and may announce a deal as soon as Monday.

According to the newspaper, the Cubs' return for Hill will depend upon how he performs with the Orioles, making it likely that the deal will include a player to be named later.

[JWCUB]

Orioles Acquire Rich Hill

By Tim Dierkes [February 2 at 10:36am CST]

10:36am: According to a press release from the Cubs, they've traded Hill to the Orioles for a player to be named later.

[PrimeTime]

Yup its official

 

The Chicago Cubs today traded left-handed pitcher Rich Hill to the Baltimore Orioles for a player to be named.

 

Hill, who turns 29 on March 11, went 18-17 with a 4.37 ERA (164 ER/337.2 IP) in 64 appearances (57 starts) in all or part of four seasons with the Cubs (2005-08). The southpaw went 11-8 with a 3.92 ERA (85 ER/195.0 IP) in a career-high 32 starts in 2007 but went 1-0 with a 4.12 ERA (9 ER/19.2 IP) in five starts with the Cubs last season before being optioned to Triple-A Iowa on May 3.

[Cubswin11]

I don't see Hill turning it around in the AL East, those offenses are going to destroy what's left of his career, the NL West is probably the only division he could have figured it out. Pitching in bigger parks and against weak offenses would have helped him a lot.

[Cubswin11]

I would think the PTBNL has to depend on how well Hill pitches for them this year, if he somehow pitches like he did in 06/07 then I would think we would get a better prospect than if he wastes away in AAA trying to figure things out again this year.