Jim Edmonds Signs With Cubs, Pie to AAA

[UMFan83]

I know this reeks of "lightning in the bottle", and if Piniella/Hnedry wants Edmonds, they'll get him, but isn't it possible that Edmonds could give the Cubs atleast a decent line in about 250 at-bats for the rest of the yr? Look I prefer Pie playing in CF over Edmonds/Johnson, that's not going to happen until 2009.

 

There are three things wrong about this move that makes this among the worst possible players to acquire:

 

-Hated and villified player who is most known for being fan favorite on arch rival

-Once great player with rediculously declining skills (both offensively and defensively), also known to be a bad clubhouse person

-Replacing the team's perennial top prospect before top prospect gets a consistent chance to play and prove himself at this level.

 

Meanwhile, the offense isn't broke. We lead all of baseball in runs score, and while its unlikely that it will stay that way all year, its certainly not worth replacing an above average defensive CF with an improving bat with a below average CF with a declining bat.

 

Everything about this move is wrong. There is no silver lining or really any grey area at all in this move, unless Edmonds reverts to 2005 form offensively. But even then, he's still hated and he's still replacing our top prospect.

 

 

Unless...I cringe as I write this....the Cubs are signing Edmonds and trading Pie for pitching.

 

And I know you're half kidding....but what pitcher could we possibly get for Pie at this point. He can't even start over a .650 OPS CF with worse defensive skills.

 

If we were FORCED to move Pie to AAA, I would have rather given up players to get Crisp, who can at least play fantastic defense, then payed almost nothing for Edmonds.

[UMFan83]

I know this reeks of "lightning in the bottle", and if Piniella/Hnedry wants Edmonds, they'll get him, but isn't it possible that Edmonds could give the Cubs atleast a decent line in about 250 at-bats for the rest of the yr? Look I prefer Pie playing in CF over Edmonds/Johnson, that's not going to happen until 2009.

 

There are three things wrong about this move that makes this among the worst possible players to acquire:

 

-Hated and villified player who is most known for being fan favorite on arch rival

-Once great player with rediculously declining skills (both offensively and defensively), also known to be a bad clubhouse person

-Replacing the team's perennial top prospect before top prospect gets a consistent chance to play and prove himself at this level.

 

Meanwhile, the offense isn't broke. We lead all of baseball in runs score, and while its unlikely that it will stay that way all year, its certainly not worth replacing an above average defensive CF with an improving bat with a below average CF with a declining bat.

 

Everything about this move is wrong. There is no silver lining or really any grey area at all in this move, unless Edmonds reverts to 2005 form offensively. But even then, he's still hated and he's still replacing our top prospect.

 

 

Unless...I cringe as I write this....the Cubs are signing Edmonds and trading Pie for pitching.

 

And I know you're half kidding....but what pitcher could we possibly get for Pie at this point. He can't even start over a .650 OPS CF with worse defensive skills.

 

If we were FORCED to move Pie to AAA, I would have rather given up players to get Crisp, who can at least play fantastic defense, then payed almost nothing for Edmonds.

[erik316wttn]

I know this reeks of "lightning in the bottle", and if Piniella/Hnedry wants Edmonds, they'll get him, but isn't it possible that Edmonds could give the Cubs atleast a decent line in about 250 at-bats for the rest of the yr? Look I prefer Pie playing in CF over Edmonds/Johnson, that's not going to happen until 2009.

 

I'm not 100% behind this move, heck, I am not even 30% behind this move, but I l realize, it doesn't mean much how I feel (or anybody here feel), but barring a surprising move, Edmonds will be a Cub. We can hope that if he craps out for about 2 weeks or so, the Cubs will cut ties, quickly. I'm hoping for a Gary Gaetti type numbers for Edmonds, but I would even take a line of .250/.330/.410 from Edmonds.

 

I wouldn't care if Jim Edmonds is Babe Ruth incarnate for the entire time he's in a Cub uniform. I'll be pulling for the Cubs still, but I'll still despise Jim Edmonds. I will officially refuse to recogize him as a Cub.

[CuseCubFan69]

I know this reeks of "lightning in the bottle", and if Piniella/Hnedry wants Edmonds, they'll get him, but isn't it possible that Edmonds could give the Cubs atleast a decent line in about 250 at-bats for the rest of the yr? Look I prefer Pie playing in CF over Edmonds/Johnson, that's not going to happen until 2009.

 

There are three things wrong about this move that makes this among the worst possible players to acquire:

 

-Hated and villified player who is most known for being fan favorite on arch rival

-Once great player with rediculously declining skills (both offensively and defensively), also known to be a bad clubhouse person

-Replacing the team's perennial top prospect before top prospect gets a consistent chance to play and prove himself at this level.

 

Meanwhile, the offense isn't broke. We lead all of baseball in runs score, and while its unlikely that it will stay that way all year, its certainly not worth replacing an above average defensive CF with an improving bat with a below average CF with a declining bat.

 

Everything about this move is wrong. There is no silver lining or really any grey area at all in this move, unless Edmonds reverts to 2005 form offensively. But even then, he's still hated and he's still replacing our top prospect.

 

 

Unless...I cringe as I write this....the Cubs are signing Edmonds and trading Pie for pitching.

 

And I know you're half kidding....but what pitcher could we possibly get for Pie at this point. He can't even start over a .650 OPS CF with worse defensive skills.

 

If we were FORCED to move Pie to AAA, I would have rather given up players to get Crisp, who can at least play fantastic defense, then payed almost nothing for Edmonds.

 

I would assume it would be Pie and some young pitchers. Imo, they're going to wait and see how things develop regarding Edmonds with the Cubs and Pie in Iowa.

[Outshined_One]

I would assume it would be Pie and some young pitchers. Imo, they're going to wait and see how things develop regarding Edmonds with the Cubs and Pie in Iowa.

 

Oh boy, let's trade Hill and Pie for Harden! Nothing like a horrifically injury-prone pitcher to help get this team over the hump!

[CuseCubFan69]

I would assume it would be Pie and some young pitchers. Imo, they're going to wait and see how things develop regarding Edmonds with the Cubs and Pie in Iowa.

 

Oh boy, let's trade Hill and Pie for Harden! Nothing like a horrifically injury-prone pitcher to help get this team over the hump!

 

So it could get worse? The optimist in me is thinking this is just to get Pie's groove on and the Cub fan in me is looking at this as Armageden(sp).

[TruffleShuffle]

i'll tell you what will happen with pie in iowa, he'll go back and rake, then come up to the cubs, not get a hit in his first 10 ABs, and everyone will decide that he's a AAAA player and give up on him.

[XZero771679666304]

i'll tell you what will happen with pie in iowa, he'll go back and rake, then come up to the cubs, not get a hit in his first 10 ABs, and everyone will decide that he's a AAAA player and give up on him.

 

 

That would be predictable.

 

 

The more I hear, the more resigned I am to the fact that Jim Edmonds will be a Cub by tomorrow night.

 

Depressing. :cry:

[CuseCubFan69]

i'll tell you what will happen with pie in iowa, he'll go back and rake, then come up to the cubs, not get a hit in his first 10 ABs, and everyone will decide that he's a AAAA player and give up on him.

 

And trade him for a middle reliever 2.0 WHIP version!

[Outshined_One]

i'll tell you what will happen with pie in iowa, he'll go back and rake, then come up to the cubs, not get a hit in his first 10 ABs, and everyone will decide that he's a AAAA player and give up on him.

 

And trade him for a middle reliever 2.0 WHIP version!

 

I hear Andy Pratt's available.

[rocket]

I know this reeks of "lightning in the bottle", and if Piniella/Hnedry wants Edmonds, they'll get him, but isn't it possible that Edmonds could give the Cubs atleast a decent line in about 250 at-bats for the rest of the yr? Look I prefer Pie playing in CF over Edmonds/Johnson, that's not going to happen until 2009.

 

I'm not 100% behind this move, heck, I am not even 30% behind this move, but I l realize, it doesn't mean much how I feel (or anybody here feel), but barring a surprising move, Edmonds will be a Cub. We can hope that if he craps out for about 2 weeks or so, the Cubs will cut ties, quickly. I'm hoping for a Gary Gaetti type numbers for Edmonds, but I would even take a line of .250/.330/.410 from Edmonds.

 

I wouldn't care if Jim Edmonds is Babe Ruth incarnate for the entire time he's in a Cub uniform. I'll be pulling for the Cubs still, but I'll still despise Jim Edmonds. I will officially refuse to recogize him as a Cub.

 

And the Cubs and Edmonds will officially not care.

[CuseCubFan69]

i'll tell you what will happen with pie in iowa, he'll go back and rake, then come up to the cubs, not get a hit in his first 10 ABs, and everyone will decide that he's a AAAA player and give up on him.

 

And trade him for a middle reliever 2.0 WHIP version!

 

I hear Andy Pratt's available.

 

It's too bad he couldn't hit like Ankiel. He threw like him though.

[erik316wttn]

i'll tell you what will happen with pie in iowa, he'll go back and rake, then come up to the cubs, not get a hit in his first 10 ABs, and everyone will decide that he's a AAAA player and give up on him.

 

And trade him for a middle reliever 2.0 WHIP version!

 

Hell, why trade him? Just bury him further in the minors while we sign Derrick Turnbow while we're at it. He used to be really good!

[erik316wttn]

i'll tell you what will happen with pie in iowa, he'll go back and rake, then come up to the cubs, not get a hit in his first 10 ABs, and everyone will decide that he's a AAAA player and give up on him.

 

And trade him for a middle reliever 2.0 WHIP version!

 

I hear Andy Pratt's available.

 

It's too bad he couldn't hit like Ankiel. He threw like him though.

 

I'd have more faith in Ankiel throwing a strike from Center Field than I would in Andy Pratt standing on the mound.

[cubbyvirus00]

there is only one CF that i want on this team at the expense of Felix Pie.....and that is Carl Crawford.

[Post Count Padder]

there is only one CF that i want on this team at the expense of Felix Pie.....and that is Carl Crawford.

Didn't we try to trade for him before the Roberts fiasco?

[Burtonbell]

It's times like this I am proud to wear my Cubbie blue!

 

 

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:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

[XZero771679666304]

there is only one CF that i want on this team at the expense of Felix Pie.....and that is Carl Crawford.

 

 

Grady Sizemore

 

Curtis Granderson

 

Ichiro

Edited May 13, 2008 by XZero77

[erik316wttn]

there is only one CF that i want on this team at the expense of Felix Pie.....and that is Carl Crawford.

Didn't we try to trade for him before the Roberts fiasco?

 

I heard speculation, but, as always, Tampa wanted the moon and a few planets.

[Post Count Padder]

there is only one CF that i want on this team at the expense of Felix Pie.....and that is Carl Crawford.

 

 

Grady Sizemore

^^^This

[bukie]

there is only one CF that i want on this team at the expense of Felix Pie.....and that is Carl Crawford.

 

 

Grady Sizemore

 

Curtis Granderson

 

Ichiro

BJ Upton

Carlos Beltran

Heck....Rick Ankiel...

[Little Slide Rooter]

there is only one CF that i want on this team at the expense of Felix Pie.....and that is Carl Crawford.

Didn't we try to trade for him before the Roberts fiasco?

 

I heard speculation, but, as always, Tampa wanted the moon and a few planets.

 

I think the moon was Felix Pie and the planets were Rich Hill and Sean Marshall/Gallagher.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

but Edmonds isn't worthless as some would like to imply based on the fact that he's old and has a bad 100 PAs.

 

This is just straight up absurd.

 

He's worthless based on his age, health, rapid and steady decline over several years, horrible 2007 and atrocious start to 2008.

 

Don't pretend people are basing this on 100 PA, it makes you look ridiculous.

 

If Edmonds 2007 was horrible, then you guys have a different definition of horrible than me. A CF who puts up a .755 OPS vs. righties is a valuable half of a platoon.

[Rob]

there is only one CF that i want on this team at the expense of Felix Pie.....and that is Carl Crawford.

 

Carl Crawford plays LF.

 

In terms of CF, I'd absolutely prefer the following players:

Carlos Beltran

BJ Upton

Grady Sizemore

Curtis Granderson

Josh Hamilton

Chris Young

[don_kessinger_was_good]

Is the "Pie-Should-Play" wailing-and-gnashing-of-teeth crowd the same group still crying over the Cubs not playing future Hall of Famer Matt Murton? Just curious.

 

Send Pie to Iowa so he can improve his bat confidence and rebuild his trade value (if that's the route the Cubs choose). Give Edmonds a month to show whether he can contribute or not; if he can, then move him in July somewhere else. If he can't, then release him.

 

What's the big freaking deal? I don't think trading one 600 OPS guy for another in the everyday lineup really matters much one way or the other. Pie is the future, terrific. He ain't the present. Let's move on to the next issue.

 

geez, you're obnoxious.

 

Well, since you volunteered to be such a smart ass without being addressed......your mindless tripe never has any meaningful baseball insight. Have you ever even played the game? Or do you just like watching it in mom's basement?

Edited May 13, 2008 by don_kessinger_was_good