Bears week 11 vs Packers Sunday at noon on Fox

[Wilson A2000]

53 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

At this point its pretty much expected mid-week news:

Man I really hope he can recover fully for the sake of his own long term well-being

 

[UMFan83]

52 minutes ago, Wilson A2000 said:

 

On top of all the other ways the Bears look like a horsefeathers show, this is just another thing to throw on the pile.  I get that most of the people that evaluate these things are independent but still not a great look.

[Wilson A2000]

5 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

On top of all the other ways the Bears look like a horsefeathers show, this is just another thing to throw on the pile.  I get that most of the people that evaluate these things are independent but still not a great look.

And Tua saw a bunch of doctors during his time off and all of them said, “Oh you’re fine no issue if you want to keep playing football”

[UMFan83]

 

I'm actually happy the players are speaking out and not hiding behind anonymous reports, etc.  Let it all out there and lets try to reboot this thing and salvage the season.  I know they almost certainly won't but it's still all there right in front of us... the injured line is probably the biggest impediment to getting our horsefeathers together at this point.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

OK, so who wasn't doing things the right way? Who has been making mistakes and taking things easy and wasn't being held accountable?

[mul21]

14 minutes ago, Hairyducked Idiot said:

OK, so who wasn't doing things the right way? Who has been making mistakes and taking things easy and wasn't being held accountable?

Based on my organized sports experience, probably almost everyone at this point.  It speaks to the larger reason why Flus shouldn't be calling the defense.  He needs to be supervising all aspects of the team and putting a boot in guy's asses if they aren't working the way they should be.  He's the guy who should ultimately be responsible for making sure everyone is doing their job and working hard and how can he do that when he's spending all his time with the defense?

[minnesotacubsfan]

16 minutes ago, Hairyducked Idiot said:

OK, so who wasn't doing things the right way? Who has been making mistakes and taking things easy and wasn't being held accountable?

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[Brian707]

19 minutes ago, minnesotacubsfan said:

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[jersey cubs fan]

42 minutes ago, Hairyducked Idiot said:

OK, so who wasn't doing things the right way? Who has been making mistakes and taking things easy and wasn't being held accountable?

Seems obvious Nate Davis was one of these people. He’s been a loaf since day one but the team has been incredibly forgiving of him the entire time. 

[gflore34]

1 minute ago, jersey cubs fan said:

Seems obvious Nate Davis was one of these people. He’s been a loaf since day one but the team has been incredibly forgiving of him the entire time. 

They did release him, despite the OL being in pretty dire straights, that should send the right message to other loafers.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

38 minutes ago, minnesotacubsfan said:

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I can't dismiss it at this point 

[minnesotacubsfan]

14 minutes ago, Hairyducked Idiot said:

I can't dismiss it at this point 

the only reason I think it could be him is because of "play Bagent" rumors, supposedly  from other players. Well that and the whole flipping offensive plays inside out thing

 

 

[Wilson A2000]

1 hour ago, UMFan83 said:

 

I'm actually happy the players are speaking out and not hiding behind anonymous reports, etc.  Let it all out there and lets try to reboot this thing and salvage the season.  I know they almost certainly won't but it's still all there right in front of us... the injured line is probably the biggest impediment to getting our horsefeathers together at this point.

They are professionals, what in the world is going on? Didn’t Allen come into camp fat and slow? If so, then he’s part of the problem.

And where has the head coach been during the times that things were let go?

It’s very McCaskeyish to want to hire nice guys who finish last. No cussing on Hard Knocks. This is pro football, not Sunday Mass and that’s coming from a fellow Christian.

 

[Wilson A2000]

1 hour ago, Hairyducked Idiot said:

OK, so who wasn't doing things the right way? Who has been making mistakes and taking things easy and wasn't being held accountable?

Nate Davis and Stevenson

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I mean congratulations for taking responsibility and shaking things up and all that, but you're still presumably starting Matt Pryor and Doug Kramer on your line so glhf

[Wilson A2000]

Poles hangs onto Eberflus too long. Poles hangs onto Claypool too long. Poles hangs into Davis too long. Eberflus keeps trotting out Velus Jones to return kicks too long. The coaching staff lets a lack of professionalism and toughness go on too long. 
 

The entire organization is just too forgiving.

[Old Style]

4 hours ago, Wilson A2000 said:

 

Say what now? Wasn’t he’s the passing game coordinator? How could’ve have not talked to the damn QB much?

[Irrelevant Dude]

3 minutes ago, Old Style said:

Say what now? Wasn’t he’s the passing game coordinator? How could’ve have not talked to the damn QB much?

Speculation on the radio earlier was that the Bears have been trying to limit the number of voices in Williams' ear, so maybe Brown was operating more behind the scenes on the overall passing scheme and not communicating directly with him.

[Wilson A2000]

8 minutes ago, Old Style said:

Say what now? Wasn’t he’s the passing game coordinator? How could’ve have not talked to the damn QB much?

Maybe he just mostly wanted to hear one voice, but still seems like they should be…talking

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I dunno what all the different jobs are supposed to do.

Maybe passing game coordinator is the guy watching film and working with the OC? You've already got a QB coach and an OC.

Or maybe it's dysfunctional. Who knows?

[BigSlick]

There's a way to be a soft-spoken coach that is at the same time respected. Lovie Smith managed that for about 8 years before things fell apart on him. Clearly, Eberflus is not that kind of guy. 

Of course, all the Shouty Guy Coaches have been also awful for the Bears ever since Ditka. There's no winning. 

[jersey cubs fan]

14 minutes ago, BigSlick said:

There's a way to be a soft-spoken coach that is at the same time respected. Lovie Smith managed that for about 8 years before things fell apart on him. Clearly, Eberflus is not that kind of guy. 

Of course, all the Shouty Guy Coaches have been also awful for the Bears ever since Ditka. There's no winning. 

1: things did not fall apart for Lovie Smith. He won 11, 8 and 10 games in years 7/8/9. 
2: Eberflus isn’t really soft spoken. If anything he talks too much. He doesn’t say anything meaningful but he uses a lot of words in an energetic manner. It comes off as disingenuous 

[minnesotacubsfan]

31 minutes ago, BigSlick said:

There's a way to be a soft-spoken coach that is at the same time respected. Lovie Smith managed that for about 8 years before things fell apart on him. Clearly, Eberflus is not that kind of guy. 

Of course, all the Shouty Guy Coaches have been also awful for the Bears ever since Ditka. There's no winning. 

its called "holding people accountable". Lovie did that extremely well. I cant remember the DB's name, but I remember a guy Lovie drafted who picked off the Packers right before half time. Ran it back for a pick 6 until he eased up and was caught. Lovie (iirc) never let the guy start again

 

ETA: I want to say it was McBride

 

Edited November 14, 2024 by minnesotacubsfan

[minnesotacubsfan]

6 minutes ago, jersey cubs fan said:

.... He doesn’t say anything meaningful but he uses a lot of words in an energetic manner. It comes off as disingenuous 

"...we need to be AGRESSIVE. OK? We need to BRING OUR ENERGY. OK?"

 

eberflus strikes me as more a tackful defensive coordinater. Theres no doubt he can develop a decent defense, but his ability to motivate players seems far less then great

 

Edited November 14, 2024 by minnesotacubsfan

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I don't care what a coach is like in the media.  It's clear that the players don't respect the coaching staff behind closed doors, which is way more important.