4/15 - Bulls (41-40) vs. Toronto (32-49) - 7 pm, CSN

[UMFan83]

Seems like a fairly disappointing choice.

 

The Score is saying the idea is Collins is a short term hire, and the interviewing that Pax is doing is for assistants that will eventually succeed Collins as coach in 1-2 years. Interesting strategy to say the least.

[GoCubsGo1679625768]

This move has Rein$dorf all over it. Edited May 29, 2008 by GoCubsGo!!

[Sammy Sofa]

Poop on a stick.

 

At least that means the next coach will bring the Bulls 6 championships, right?

 

It probably means that Mike is making another return

 

They can use Collins until Rose is just about ready to take the team to the next level, then bring in Phil Jackson for 6 championships in 8 years.

 

Rose better not be thinking minor league baseball.

 

as long as he doesn't develop a gambling problem there won't be a reason for a sham retirement/minor league stint

 

Can he still "be friends" with porn chicks?

[jersey cubs fan]

Seems like a fairly disappointing choice.

 

The Score is saying the idea is Collins is a short term hire, and the interviewing that Pax is doing is for assistants that will eventually succeed Collins as coach in 1-2 years. Interesting strategy to say the least.

 

I could see hiring a guy like Bill Parcells with the idea of grooming an assistant to take over. But Doug Collins?

[SpongeWorthy]

Maybe Pax just wants someone who will go quietly when the time comes so he can take over as coach. We all know Collins will be out of work for about 2 seconds until he's back in the booth.

[rawaction]

Man, what a stupid move.

[Andy]

Great way to start Rose's career here.

 

Idiotic.

[Soul]

Sounds very stop-gappy to me. I think Collins knows the game though -- at least when I hear him talk, he seems to from my point of view. Edited May 29, 2008 by Soul

[YearofDaCubs]

Ughhh. I expected better than this.

[Soul]

Ughhh. I expected better than this.

 

I'm not sure I did. It's pretty late in the game. Just my own curiosity -- who did you have in mind?

[Flames24Rulz]

Ughhh. I expected better than this.

 

I'm not sure I did. It's pretty late in the game. Just my own curiosity -- who did you have in mind?

 

Avery Johnson.

 

I really don't mind the hiring of Collins, to be honest with you.

[Wilson A2000]

Poop on a stick.

 

At least that means the next coach will bring the Bulls 6 championships, right?

 

It probably means that Mike is making another return

 

They can use Collins until Rose is just about ready to take the team to the next level, then bring in Phil Jackson for 6 championships in 8 years.

 

Rose better not be thinking minor league baseball.

 

as long as he doesn't develop a gambling problem there won't be a reason for a sham retirement/minor league stint

 

Can he still "be friends" with porn chicks?

 

On Boers and Bernstein Terry wouldn't say exactly why he thought Collins was let go. He said that he media was forced to speculate because the Bulls weren't that specific. So what is Terry talking about?

[UMFan83]

To anyone who wants to be depressed about this hiring, read John Hollinger's article on ESPN.com about it.

[Soul]

Ughhh. I expected better than this.

 

I'm not sure I did. It's pretty late in the game. Just my own curiosity -- who did you have in mind?

 

Avery Johnson.

 

I really don't mind the hiring of Collins, to be honest with you.

 

Avery was definitely there for the taking. I'd be interested in knowing what made the Bulls say no to him.

[Soul]

To anyone who wants to be depressed about this hiring, read John Hollinger's article on ESPN.com about it.

 

I think it's still an open question whether this roster is going to be blown up, and Hollinger's entire article is based on everything staying pretty much the same. I've heard some others speculating that the Collins hire means major roster changes are to come, as well.

 

It's still a good read, though. But I think it's also important to point out that he mentions Collins is one of the best coaches in the league at getting immediate improvement when he is brought in. The fact that he levels off after 3 years is somewhat of a red herring. Most NBA coaches do. Actually, most NBA coaches don't last that long regardless of what they try to do, unless they've got that superstar to carry the team to a championship.

[hawkeyecub]

Poop on a stick.

 

At least that means the next coach will bring the Bulls 6 championships, right?

 

It probably means that Mike is making another return

 

They can use Collins until Rose is just about ready to take the team to the next level, then bring in Phil Jackson for 6 championships in 8 years.

 

Rose better not be thinking minor league baseball.

 

as long as he doesn't develop a gambling problem there won't be a reason for a sham retirement/minor league stint

 

Can he still "be friends" with porn chicks?

 

On Boers and Bernstein Terry wouldn't say exactly why he thought Collins was let go. He said that he media was forced to speculate because the Bulls weren't that specific. So what is Terry talking about?

 

Yeah that was odd. He kept saying that because they weren't specific people went digging and what they found wasn't pretty for either side. I don't recall rumors of anything weird but it was intriguing.

 

I agreed with them that I never like the idea of hiring a coach to just be there for a couple of years with his eventual replacement already on staff. They also suggested that it could be slightly more possible for the #1 pick to be dealt as a result.

 

I'll miss him on TNT, but he'll be back in a few years.

[Jehrico]

To anyone who wants to be depressed about this hiring, read John Hollinger's article on ESPN.com about it.

 

I think it's still an open question whether this roster is going to be blown up, and Hollinger's entire article is based on everything staying pretty much the same. I've heard some others speculating that the Collins hire means major roster changes are to come, as well.

 

It's still a good read, though. But I think it's also important to point out that he mentions Collins is one of the best coaches in the league at getting immediate improvement when he is brought in. The fact that he levels off after 3 years is somewhat of a red herring. Most NBA coaches do. Actually, most NBA coaches don't last that long regardless of what they try to do, unless they've got that superstar to carry the team to a championship.

I don't understand the negative sentiment about Collins either. He was always a good coach. Are there better options? Maybe, but that doesn't make this a horrible move. I'm quite interested in how this offseason will go if this does mean major changes are coming, there's a ton of potential major moves Paxson can make.

 

This smacks a little of wanting to recreate the Jordan-era though. Collins was the coach when Jordan came into the league and shot towards stardom. I'd be willing to bet this is a strong indicator that they're going to take Rose over Beasley. I'm still holding out hope though that they can put together a package and snag that #2 pick as well...

[DivineBovine]

I don't understand the negative sentiment about Collins either. He was always a good coach. Are there better options? Maybe, but that doesn't make this a horrible move. I'm quite interested in how this offseason will go if this does mean major changes are coming, there's a ton of potential major moves Paxson can make.

 

This smacks a little of wanting to recreate the Jordan-era though. Collins was the coach when Jordan came into the league and shot towards stardom. I'd be willing to bet this is a strong indicator that they're going to take Rose over Beasley. I'm still holding out hope though that they can put together a package and snag that #2 pick as well...

 

 

I don't either. I don't see how so many people can be so negative about him. The one time he actually had a championship worthy team, he almost won it. Maybe Collins was "immature", "emotional", maybe he had personality issues at the time, but there is no way I would blame him for not winning a ring. Phil Jackson got way too much credit for all the Bulls championships, still does to this day. Let's face it, the team was about to win. It didn't matter much who coached at that point, as long as that coach didn't screw things up, ran Tex Winter's triangle, and let MJ do his thing. And then Phil goes and wins with Shaq and Kobe in their primes. Wow, what a tough task. He should've won more with those Laker teams. Phil's Zen magic wouldn't have done squat with the Wizards or Pistons teams that Collins coached. And Phil wasn't the reason the Bulls broke through for championships.

 

I'm curious to see what Doug Collins can do with the team.

[CuseCubFan69]

If the Bulls do "blow the team up" do they have any players they could trade to acquire 1st round picks for 2009 and 2010 or impact 1 or 2 year guys?

[Tyrant]

I'm still holding out hope though that they can put together a package and snag that #2 pick as well...

 

This is never, ever, ever, ever happening. I wish people would stop talking about it.

[Soul]

I'm still holding out hope though that they can put together a package and snag that #2 pick as well...

 

This is never, ever, ever, ever happening. I wish people would stop talking about it.

 

Seems highly unlikely, agreed.

 

I do think we have some players that would draw interest from other teams for possible trades, though.

[Jehrico]

I'm still holding out hope though that they can put together a package and snag that #2 pick as well...

 

This is never, ever, ever, ever happening. I wish people would stop talking about it.

I wasn't aware that you had a say.

 

I obviously won't go and bet that it will happen, but it's not the sure thing to not happen you keep making it out to be, especially if the Heat aren't interested in taking Beasley at #2.

[Tyrant]

I'm still holding out hope though that they can put together a package and snag that #2 pick as well...

 

This is never, ever, ever, ever happening. I wish people would stop talking about it.

I wasn't aware that you had a say.

 

I obviously won't go and bet that it will happen, but it's not the sure thing to not happen you keep making it out to be, especially if the Heat aren't interested in taking Beasley at #2.

 

It just seems like the NBA equivalent of the "Murton, Wuertz and EPatt for Dunn? Too much?" trade offers that sometimes get thrown around.

 

Seeing that no team has ever snagged the first two picks in a draft, and that this is regarded as a two-player draft, and that Paxson is notoriously uncreative and boring, and that NBA salary rules surrounding trades are really complex, it's not happening.

[jersey cubs fan]

I'm still holding out hope though that they can put together a package and snag that #2 pick as well...

 

This is never, ever, ever, ever happening. I wish people would stop talking about it.

I wasn't aware that you had a say.

 

I obviously won't go and bet that it will happen, but it's not the sure thing to not happen you keep making it out to be, especially if the Heat aren't interested in taking Beasley at #2.

 

It just seems like the NBA equivalent of the "Murton, Wuertz and EPatt for Dunn? Too much?" trade offers that sometimes get thrown around.

 

Seeing that no team has ever snagged the first two picks in a draft, and that this is regarded as a two-player draft, and that Paxson is notoriously uncreative and boring, and that NBA salary rules surrounding trades are really complex, it's not happening.

 

Has anybody ever traded for the #2 pick in the draft without giving up a fairly high 1st round pick and/or a star player? If the Bulls also had like the 5th, or a player at all resembling a star, maybe they'd be able to work something out. But I agree it would be rather ridiculous to think they could get the 1 and 2.

[bukie]

I'm still holding out hope though that they can put together a package and snag that #2 pick as well...

 

This is never, ever, ever, ever happening. I wish people would stop talking about it.

I wasn't aware that you had a say.

 

I obviously won't go and bet that it will happen, but it's not the sure thing to not happen you keep making it out to be, especially if the Heat aren't interested in taking Beasley at #2.

 

It just seems like the NBA equivalent of the "Murton, Wuertz and EPatt for Dunn? Too much?" trade offers that sometimes get thrown around.

 

Seeing that no team has ever snagged the first two picks in a draft, and that this is regarded as a two-player draft, and that Paxson is notoriously uncreative and boring, and that NBA salary rules surrounding trades are really complex, it's not happening.

 

Has anybody ever traded for the #2 pick in the draft without giving up a fairly high 1st round pick and/or a star player? If the Bulls also had like the 5th, or a player at all resembling a star, maybe they'd be able to work something out. But I agree it would be rather ridiculous to think they could get the 1 and 2.

 

The Bulls did trade for the 2 pick 5 years ago when they already had the 4 pick. And that was just Brand ("just" meaning singular player, not intended to devalue the player) for the 2 pick, no strings attached. So I don't think it's absurd as some are making it out to be, especially since Miami is entertaining trade offers for the pick anyway, and before the Bulls knew they were getting the first pick, they were already in talks with Miami about trading Hinrich for their pick.