4/15 - Bulls (41-40) vs. Toronto (32-49) - 7 pm, CSN

[RedFlash]

any short, white, ex-role playing point guards floating out there for Pax to hire?

 

I can't wait until he starts interviewing guys like Bobby Hurley, Mark Price, and Thunder Dan. Man those will be great days.

 

:roll:

[Jehrico]

Del Negro was considered for the Suns job, if I am not mistaken.

 

(Don't confuse that with me approving it. I don't mind a coach who has never head coached before, but I'd prefer some assistant coach experience.)

 

That's a must, unless we're talking about some kind of extremely extenuating circumstance. Maybe if the candidate is some hotshot from Europe, or something like that. At least give me someone with some indication that he's been in a court-side leadership role before, and shown some promise. This is the NBA, I don't think it's too much to expect someone with some kind of accomplishment in the area of coaching.

 

Let Del Negro cut his teeth somewhere for a couple years -- heck, hire him as an assistant and find out if he's cut out for coaching. But head coach right away sight unseen? That's stark raving madness. Even if he succeeded it would *STILL* be stark raving madness.

 

 

Porter did land that job.

Did Cartwright get his head coaching gig without any assistance experience? I don't recall him being an ass't before we hired him. I'm surprised he hasn't gotten another gig somewhere, I don't think he did badly with what he had.

[Derwood]

Del Negro was considered for the Suns job, if I am not mistaken.

 

(Don't confuse that with me approving it. I don't mind a coach who has never head coached before, but I'd prefer some assistant coach experience.)

 

That's a must, unless we're talking about some kind of extremely extenuating circumstance. Maybe if the candidate is some hotshot from Europe, or something like that. At least give me someone with some indication that he's been in a court-side leadership role before, and shown some promise. This is the NBA, I don't think it's too much to expect someone with some kind of accomplishment in the area of coaching.

 

Let Del Negro cut his teeth somewhere for a couple years -- heck, hire him as an assistant and find out if he's cut out for coaching. But head coach right away sight unseen? That's stark raving madness. Even if he succeeded it would *STILL* be stark raving madness.

 

 

Porter did land that job.

Did Cartwright get his head coaching gig without any assistance experience? I don't recall him being an ass't before we hired him. I'm surprised he hasn't gotten another gig somewhere, I don't think he did badly with what he had.

 

he was an assistant under Phil Jackson for the '97 and '98 champion teams

[Banedon]

I'm not really a basketball guy anymore, so keep the flames to a minimum....:)

 

Is Rudy Tomjanovich healthy enough to be a head coach again? He'd be a "name" and would certainly bring experience.

[GoCubsGo1679625768]

Dwayne Casey will get the Bulls job.

Casey would be my personal choice at this point, however, why don't they just wait another few days till the finals are over and interview Tom Thibodeau? At this point what is the harm in waiting?

[CoolHandLuke]

I want them to hire Bill Wennington, so it gives McDonals a reason to bring back the Beef Wennington.

[Keener98]

Dwayne Casey will get the Bulls job.

Casey would be my personal choice at this point, however, why don't they just wait another few days till the finals are over and interview Tom Thibodeau? At this point what is the harm in waiting?

 

I personally dont like Thibodeau. I think the fact that the Celtics actually have very good players has given Thibodeau his "name". But I do feel the job will be Caseys.

[CubbieBum]

I'm not really a basketball guy anymore, so keep the flames to a minimum....:)

 

Is Rudy Tomjanovich healthy enough to be a head coach again? He'd be a "name" and would certainly bring experience.

 

no he's not and he's told Houston reporters he is done with coaching because it is too stressful

[Banedon]

I'm not really a basketball guy anymore, so keep the flames to a minimum....:)

 

Is Rudy Tomjanovich healthy enough to be a head coach again? He'd be a "name" and would certainly bring experience.

 

no he's not and he's told Houston reporters he is done with coaching because it is too stressful

 

Well that answers that. Thanks.

[GoCubsGo1679625768]

Dwayne Casey will get the Bulls job.

Casey would be my personal choice at this point, however, why don't they just wait another few days till the finals are over and interview Tom Thibodeau? At this point what is the harm in waiting?

 

I personally dont like Thibodeau. I think the fact that the Celtics actually have very good players has given Thibodeau his "name". But I do feel the job will be Caseys.

I don't know..if I'm not mistaken many questioned the Celtics ability to play defense this season(even after they got Garnett and Allen) and they have been stellar on D this season, not to mention what they have done against Kobe in the finals.

[Tyrant]

Dwayne Casey will get the Bulls job.

Casey would be my personal choice at this point, however, why don't they just wait another few days till the finals are over and interview Tom Thibodeau? At this point what is the harm in waiting?

 

I personally dont like Thibodeau. I think the fact that the Celtics actually have very good players has given Thibodeau his "name". But I do feel the job will be Caseys.

 

Thibodeau came over to the Celtics just this year. He's probably been more responsible for their defensive success than any of the new players.

 

He had been with Houston for the previous few years, and they always had a good defense. Prior to that, he was in charge of the defense for the Knicks, when they held 33 straight teams under 100 points.

 

I have some reservations about his offensive knowledge, but he definitely knows defense.

 

All that said, I agree with you that it will be Casey.

[Magnetic Curses]

great job in whittling the list down to guys whose names "resonate" with the fans, pax.

 

i can't see any really excellent candidate being interested in the bulls job, anyway. the way that paxson and reinsdorf have handled the search is an embarassment. i wouldn't want to work in a situation where i have no idea who is running things.

 

i'd like to see some candidate walk into pax's office for an interview and ask: "okay, so who the [expletive] hell is in charge here? who do i answer to? is it you, are you the boss?"

 

what a joke, this franchise needs a housecleaning. pax and reinsdorf are back to outthinking themselves.

[GoCubsGo1679625768]

great job in whittling the list down to guys whose names "resonate" with the fans, pax.

 

i can't see any really excellent candidate being interested in the bulls job, anyway. the way that paxson and reinsdorf have handled the search is an embarassment. i wouldn't want to work in a situation where i have no idea who is running things.

 

i'd like to see some candidate walk into pax's office for an interview and ask: "okay, so who the ---SOAPDROPPING--- hell is in charge here? who do i answer to? is it you, are you the boss?"

 

what a joke, this franchise needs a housecleaning. pax and reinsdorf are back to outthinking themselves.

 

I've been as critical of Paxson as any out there...but this whole coaching mess screams of Reinsdorf....To me it is pretty clear who is running the Bulls.

[GoCubsGo1679625768]

Del Negro!!! WTF!!

 

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=204939&src=150

 

What a terrible, terrible choice.

[David]

Del Negro!!! WTF!!

 

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=204939&src=150

 

What a terrible, terrible choice.

 

Or not.

 

You really don't know anything about him to know whether or not it's a terrible choice. Sure, he has no formal coaching experience (he has "coached" with the Suns during his time there, although obviously not from the bench). I'd sure as hell take it over one of these retreads we were looking at.

 

Given the fact that Paxson has interviewed him (and a ton of other candidates) and I'm sure done a fair amount of research and still put his ass on the line with him, I'll give it time before I deem it a "terrible, terrible" choice.

 

My hope is that he's a D'Antoni type of guy. There's really no way of knowing, though, until we hear (and see) more about him.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Vinny Del Negro. now there's a blast from the past that could have stayed there

[Soul]

Del Negro!!! WTF!!

 

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=204939&src=150

 

What a terrible, terrible choice.

 

Or not.

 

You really don't know anything about him to know whether or not it's a terrible choice. Sure, he has no formal coaching experience (he has "coached" with the Suns during his time there, although obviously not from the bench). I'd sure as hell take it over one of these retreads we were looking at.

 

Given the fact that Paxson has interviewed him (and a ton of other candidates) and I'm sure done a fair amount of research and still put his ass on the line with him, I'll give it time before I deem it a "terrible, terrible" choice.

 

My hope is that he's a D'Antoni type of guy. There's really no way of knowing, though, until we hear (and see) more about him.

 

So you're saying it's a good choice because nobody knows anything about him? How does that work, exactly?

 

I'll give it time too. That's not really the question though, is it. The question is, how can Del Negro be the best choice when nobody has an inkling how he will do, including Paxson? For all he (or anyone else) knows, Del Negro will simply fold under the pressure of being a coach.

 

Obviously we all hope it works out. But even if it does, this simply can not have been the best choice. We're now relying on luck.

[GoCubsGo1679625768]

Del Negro!!! WTF!!

 

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=204939&src=150

 

What a terrible, terrible choice.

 

Or not.

 

You really don't know anything about him to know whether or not it's a terrible choice. Sure, he has no formal coaching experience (he has "coached" with the Suns during his time there, although obviously not from the bench). I'd sure as hell take it over one of these retreads we were looking at.

 

Given the fact that Paxson has interviewed him (and a ton of other candidates) and I'm sure done a fair amount of research and still put his ass on the line with him, I'll give it time before I deem it a "terrible, terrible" choice.

 

My hope is that he's a D'Antoni type of guy. There's really no way of knowing, though, until we hear (and see) more about him.

 

Is Paxson really putting his ass on the line? This HC search has shown us that Paxson has hardly any cloute whatsoever. This was a Reinsdorf move and I'm sure Del Negro is coming cheap.

[Tyrant]

 

You really don't know anything about him to know whether or not it's a terrible choice. Sure, he has no formal coaching experience (he has "coached" with the Suns during his time there, although obviously not from the bench). I'd sure as hell take it over one of these retreads we were looking at.

 

I love that the best argument made for Del Negro is that he hasn't had a chance to fail yet. Aim high, guys!

 

It's kind of like how many Cubs fans love prospects because the prospects haven't sucked yet in the majors.

 

Throwing a guy with absolutely zero bench experience - anywhere - into an NBA coaching job is madness. He'll have no clue about rotations, in-game management, etc.

[David]

Del Negro!!! WTF!!

 

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=204939&src=150

 

What a terrible, terrible choice.

 

Or not.

 

You really don't know anything about him to know whether or not it's a terrible choice. Sure, he has no formal coaching experience (he has "coached" with the Suns during his time there, although obviously not from the bench). I'd sure as hell take it over one of these retreads we were looking at.

 

Given the fact that Paxson has interviewed him (and a ton of other candidates) and I'm sure done a fair amount of research and still put his ass on the line with him, I'll give it time before I deem it a "terrible, terrible" choice.

 

My hope is that he's a D'Antoni type of guy. There's really no way of knowing, though, until we hear (and see) more about him.

 

So you're saying it's a good choice because nobody knows anything about him? How does that work, exactly?

 

I'll give it time too. That's not really the question though, is it. The question is, how can Del Negro be the best choice when nobody has an inkling how he will do, including Paxson? For all he (or anyone else) knows, Del Negro will simply fold under the pressure of being a coach.

 

Obviously we all hope it works out. But even if it does, this simply can not have been the best choice. We're now relying on luck.

 

 

Tell me where I said anything like that.

 

The fact is, we know about 1/100000th as much as Paxson knows about the guy. There's no way it can, on the first day, be deemed a bad (or TERRIBLE) hire by people who know absolutely nothing.

 

I didn't know that the hire had to be deemed (or could be) either good or bad the day it was made, especially when we have little to nothing to go on to make such an evaluation.

[Soul]

Del Negro!!! WTF!!

 

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=204939&src=150

 

What a terrible, terrible choice.

 

Or not.

 

You really don't know anything about him to know whether or not it's a terrible choice. Sure, he has no formal coaching experience (he has "coached" with the Suns during his time there, although obviously not from the bench). I'd sure as hell take it over one of these retreads we were looking at.

 

Given the fact that Paxson has interviewed him (and a ton of other candidates) and I'm sure done a fair amount of research and still put his ass on the line with him, I'll give it time before I deem it a "terrible, terrible" choice.

 

My hope is that he's a D'Antoni type of guy. There's really no way of knowing, though, until we hear (and see) more about him.

 

So you're saying it's a good choice because nobody knows anything about him? How does that work, exactly?

 

I'll give it time too. That's not really the question though, is it. The question is, how can Del Negro be the best choice when nobody has an inkling how he will do, including Paxson? For all he (or anyone else) knows, Del Negro will simply fold under the pressure of being a coach.

 

Obviously we all hope it works out. But even if it does, this simply can not have been the best choice. We're now relying on luck.

 

 

Tell me where I said anything like that.

 

The fact is, we know about 1/100000th as much as Paxson knows about the guy. There's no way it can, on the first day, be deemed a bad (or TERRIBLE) hire by people who know absolutely nothing.

 

I didn't know that the hire had to be deemed (or could be) either good or bad the day it was made, especially when we have little to nothing to go on to make such an evaluation.

 

Your first sentence clearly suggests people should be OK with it because nothing is known about him.

 

The real fact is, even Paxson can't know nearly as much about Del Negro as he would about other candidates who have at least shown that they are coaches. It's not asking too much to hire a guy who at least has a resume.

 

You seem to be saying that it's not a terrible choice if we get lucky and he works out. The reality is, we shouldn't have to get lucky to find a good coach.

Edited June 9, 2008 by Soul

[David]

Also...for the record, if he is, in fact, bringing in a D'Antoni style system, it's a good hire in my mind.

 

All the other crap....experience, leadership, name, whatever, means very little to me compared to the actual system that is being implemented.

 

Bring in an uptempo style and a player like Derrick Rose and you're essentially making the most you can of the talent on this roster (while hopefully making some sort of consolidation trade), IMO. This is why I was not at all enthused about bringing in Collins and his slow-as-molasses style.

 

Again, that's entirely contingent on Del Negro bringing in the PHX (or similar) system. There's really no way of knowing if he will or not, other than the fact that he worked with it and scouted for it while there.

[David]

Your first sentence clearly suggests people should be OK with it because nothing is known about him.

 

The real fact is, even Paxson can't know nearly as much about Del Negro as he would about other candidates who have at least shown that they are coaches. It's not asking too much to hire a guy who at least has a resume.

 

You seem to be saying that it's not a terrible choice if we get lucky and he works out. The reality is, we shouldn't have to get lucky to find a good coach.

 

No, it doesn't.

 

 

Also, I didn't realize that we had to get lucky for Paxson's evaluation of the guy to be right.

[Soul]

Then why not bring someone in who you KNOW will implement the system you want, David? And one who you know is capable of implementing that system? You still haven't answered that question, and it's pretty much the whole bag of beans.

[Soul]

Your first sentence clearly suggests people should be OK with it because nothing is known about him.

 

The real fact is, even Paxson can't know nearly as much about Del Negro as he would about other candidates who have at least shown that they are coaches. It's not asking too much to hire a guy who at least has a resume.

 

You seem to be saying that it's not a terrible choice if we get lucky and he works out. The reality is, we shouldn't have to get lucky to find a good coach.

 

No, it doesn't.

 

 

Also, I didn't realize that we had to get lucky for Paxson's evaluation of the guy to be right.

 

There's no way Paxson's evaluation can be based on anything but "gut" because nobody's ever seen the guy coach, that's why.