CC Sabathia Traded to Brewers (for LaPorta + Prospects)

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I'm going to say it again. If the Brewers go full force for Sabathia, we don't have the resources to compete with what they could conceivably give up.

[Sammy Sofa]

I'm going to say it again. If the Brewers go full force for Sabathia, we don't have the resources to compete with what they could conceivably give up.

 

Are there any realistic multi-team deals the Cubs could get in on to increase their chances?

[Guest]

Oh and I really want to include Ceda in any deal, I think his perceived value is way higher than what he actually brings to the table.

 

Agreed.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I'm going to say it again. If the Brewers go full force for Sabathia, we don't have the resources to compete with what they could conceivably give up.

 

Are there any realistic multi-team deals the Cubs could get in on to increase their chances?

 

I don't know. It's not that the Brewers are better matched, they are just stacked in the minor leagues. The Cubs don't have a single prospect with the value of LaPorta and probably not one that comes close to Gamel either. If the Brewers decide to do whatever it takes, they will win this derby. Now, if the Brewers are hesitant to offer the top goods, the Cubs might outbid them.

[UK1679666180]

I'm going to say it again. If the Brewers go full force for Sabathia, we don't have the resources to compete with what they could conceivably give up.

 

Are there any realistic multi-team deals the Cubs could get in on to increase their chances?

 

I don't know. It's not that the Brewers are better matched, they are just stacked in the minor leagues. The Cubs don't have a single prospect with the value of LaPorta and probably not one that comes close to Gamel either. If the Brewers decide to do whatever it takes, they will win this derby. Now, if the Brewers are hesitant to offer the top goods, the Cubs might outbid them.

 

There might be other teams in this derby with more minor league resources than both Mil and the Cubs.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I'm going to say it again. If the Brewers go full force for Sabathia, we don't have the resources to compete with what they could conceivably give up.

 

Are there any realistic multi-team deals the Cubs could get in on to increase their chances?

 

I don't know. It's not that the Brewers are better matched, they are just stacked in the minor leagues. The Cubs don't have a single prospect with the value of LaPorta and probably not one that comes close to Gamel either. If the Brewers decide to do whatever it takes, they will win this derby. Now, if the Brewers are hesitant to offer the top goods, the Cubs might outbid them.

 

There might be other teams in this derby with more minor league resources than both Mil and the Cubs.

 

That is true. I was just saying I didn't see the Cubs being able to outbid the Brewers. I'd think teams like the Rays, Rangers, and Braves could probably outbid the Cubs as well.

[C.C.]

I'm going to say it again. If the Brewers go full force for Sabathia, we don't have the resources to compete with what they could conceivably give up.

 

Are there any realistic multi-team deals the Cubs could get in on to increase their chances?

 

I don't know. It's not that the Brewers are better matched, they are just stacked in the minor leagues. The Cubs don't have a single prospect with the value of LaPorta and probably not one that comes close to Gamel either. If the Brewers decide to do whatever it takes, they will win this derby. Now, if the Brewers are hesitant to offer the top goods, the Cubs might outbid them.

 

There might be other teams in this derby with more minor league resources than both Mil and the Cubs.

 

That is true. I was just saying I didn't see the Cubs being able to outbid the Brewers. I'd think teams like the Rays, Rangers, and Braves could probably outbid the Cubs as well.

 

A ton of teams can outbid the Cubs, but are they as desperate as us?

[daske17]

Let's also keep in mind that the Yankees and Red Sox also had better bids for Santana than the Mets. Yet we know how that turned out.

[Derwood]

but Milwaukee trading for Sabathia would be SO out of their regular M.O. that I'd be shocked to see it.

[shnsajax]

If the Brewers want to give up the players for him, then yes I would be worried. I still don't think they will want to do that though simply because he won't be staying with them.

[cubsclapp]

I'm going to say it again. If the Brewers go full force for Sabathia, we don't have the resources to compete with what they could conceivably give up.

 

Are there any realistic multi-team deals the Cubs could get in on to increase their chances?

 

I don't know. It's not that the Brewers are better matched, they are just stacked in the minor leagues. The Cubs don't have a single prospect with the value of LaPorta and probably not one that comes close to Gamel either. If the Brewers decide to do whatever it takes, they will win this derby. Now, if the Brewers are hesitant to offer the top goods, the Cubs might outbid them.

 

There might be other teams in this derby with more minor league resources than both Mil and the Cubs.

 

That is true. I was just saying I didn't see the Cubs being able to outbid the Brewers. I'd think teams like the Rays, Rangers, and Braves could probably outbid the Cubs as well.

 

A ton of teams can outbid the Cubs, but are they as desperate as us?

That's how I see it, and I think the answer is no.

[JWCUB]

The best thing for the Cubs to do is go on a mini-hot streak for 2-3 weeks and hope to have the Brewers about 8-10 games out.

[moochpuppy]

but Milwaukee trading for Sabathia would be SO out of their regular M.O. that I'd be shocked to see it.

 

Milwaukee would be taking a much bigger risk than the Cubs. Milwaukee will probably not resign Sheets and I don't think they spend the money necessary to get Sabathia long term.

 

The Cubs have shown they will spend the big bucks on marque players while the Brewers don't have that history. They will not get a bargain basement deal for Sabathia like they got with Braun.

[Keener98]

The problem with letting Sabathia walk if we trade for him, is its the Cubs front office who has to decide who to draft with those 2 picks.

[SouthSideRyan]

I'm going to say it again. If the Brewers go full force for Sabathia, we don't have the resources to compete with what they could conceivably give up.

 

Are there any realistic multi-team deals the Cubs could get in on to increase their chances?

 

I don't know. It's not that the Brewers are better matched, they are just stacked in the minor leagues. The Cubs don't have a single prospect with the value of LaPorta and probably not one that comes close to Gamel either. If the Brewers decide to do whatever it takes, they will win this derby. Now, if the Brewers are hesitant to offer the top goods, the Cubs might outbid them.

 

There might be other teams in this derby with more minor league resources than both Mil and the Cubs.

 

What are you trying to say?

[Sammy Sofa]

I'm going to say it again. If the Brewers go full force for Sabathia, we don't have the resources to compete with what they could conceivably give up.

 

Are there any realistic multi-team deals the Cubs could get in on to increase their chances?

 

I don't know. It's not that the Brewers are better matched, they are just stacked in the minor leagues. The Cubs don't have a single prospect with the value of LaPorta and probably not one that comes close to Gamel either. If the Brewers decide to do whatever it takes, they will win this derby. Now, if the Brewers are hesitant to offer the top goods, the Cubs might outbid them.

 

There might be other teams in this derby with more minor league resources than both Mil and the Cubs.

 

That is true. I was just saying I didn't see the Cubs being able to outbid the Brewers. I'd think teams like the Rays, Rangers, and Braves could probably outbid the Cubs as well.

 

A ton of teams can outbid the Cubs, but are they as desperate as us?

 

That's pretty much my only source of hope.

 

"Well, they're offering you a couple of A-players...so how about half a dozen B-players?"

[rocket]

but Milwaukee trading for Sabathia would be SO out of their regular M.O. that I'd be shocked to see it.

 

this is also one of the first times they're in a position to make the playoffs.

[RonnieWooWooSanto]

I'm going to say it again. If the Brewers go full force for Sabathia, we don't have the resources to compete with what they could conceivably give up.

 

Are there any realistic multi-team deals the Cubs could get in on to increase their chances?

 

I don't know. It's not that the Brewers are better matched, they are just stacked in the minor leagues. The Cubs don't have a single prospect with the value of LaPorta and probably not one that comes close to Gamel either. If the Brewers decide to do whatever it takes, they will win this derby. Now, if the Brewers are hesitant to offer the top goods, the Cubs might outbid them.

 

There might be other teams in this derby with more minor league resources than both Mil and the Cubs.

 

What are you trying to say?

 

I was wondering too. Since I don't think there is any team that would/could be interested that could match what Milwaukee could offer and that would include a deal that doesn't involve LaPorta or Gamel.

Edited July 1, 2008 by RonnieWooWooSanto

[Backtobanks]

The problem with letting Sabathia walk if we trade for him, is its the Cubs front office who has to decide who to draft with those 2 picks.

 

The problem with all of the talk of getting Sabathia and even if he leaves you get 2 draft picks is that 2 draft picks is a crapshoot at best for any team (not just the Cubs). It might be 3 or 4 years before you have any idea whether one or both draft picks will be major leaguers. So I'm not saying you don't make the deal, just realize that getting 2 draft picks is not a great reason to trade away somebody like Gallagher. As I posted earlier, if there was some guarantee that we could sign Sabathia to an extension, then full speed ahead.

[shnsajax]

The problem with letting Sabathia walk if we trade for him, is its the Cubs front office who has to decide who to draft with those 2 picks.

 

The problem with all of the talk of getting Sabathia and even if he leaves you get 2 draft picks is that 2 draft picks is a crapshoot at best for any team (not just the Cubs). It might be 3 or 4 years before you have any idea whether one or both draft picks will be major leaguers. So I'm not saying you don't make the deal, just realize that getting 2 draft picks is not a great reason to trade away somebody like Gallagher. As I posted earlier, if there was some guarantee that we could sign Sabathia to an extension, then full speed ahead.

 

That risk is well worth it though. Sorry to see him go, but he is no reason to block Sabathia. We are not talking about David Price here, but a potential #3-#4 starter who is also a year or two away from maybe becoming that.

[NCCubFan]

Incidentally, if Sabathia lands in Milwaukee instead, the Brewers could conceivably have 5 picks in the top 30-something next June... their own first-rounder, plus 2 for Sheets, plus 2 more for Sabathia. Yikes.

Double yikes considering that, unlike the Cubs, the Brewers have a track history of turning prospects into productive major leaguers.

[Outshined_One]

I was wondering too. Since I don't think there is any team that would/could be interested that could match what Milwaukee could offer and that would include a deal that doesn't involve LaPorta or Gamel.

 

The Braves, Angels, Rays, Red Sox, Marlins, Rangers, Diamondbacks, and Dodgers all come to mind.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

What scares me about the Brewers is two of their biggest chips (LaPorta and Gamel) are blocked at the major league level and may be expendable. Both of those are either going to have to play LF or 1B and Milwaukee has Prince and Braun at those spots. Yes, I know Gamel is at 3B right now, but his defense is worse than Braun's was there.

 

So, if the Brewers put Gamel or LaPorta out there in a trade, it will be very hard to match that.

[RonnieWooWooSanto]

I was wondering too. Since I don't think there is any team that would/could be interested that could match what Milwaukee could offer and that would include a deal that doesn't involve LaPorta or Gamel.

 

The Braves, Angels, Rays, Red Sox, Marlins, Rangers, Diamondbacks, and Dodgers all come to mind.

 

I like the prospects in Milwaukee's organization a bit more than those teams mentioned. Although, I do happen to like some of the Rangers & Rays prospects also.

 

But, I don't see the Rangers or Rays doing a deal for Sabathia.

Edited July 1, 2008 by RonnieWooWooSanto

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I was wondering too. Since I don't think there is any team that would/could be interested that could match what Milwaukee could offer and that would include a deal that doesn't involve LaPorta or Gamel.

 

The Braves, Angels, Rays, Red Sox, Marlins, Rangers, Diamondbacks, and Dodgers all come to mind.

 

I like the prospects in Milwaukee's organization a bit more than those teams mentioned. Although, I do happen to like some of the Rangers prospects also.

 

If the Rangers wanted him, I'm sure a package built around some of their young hitters like Max Ramirez would be very attractive. I'm not sure if the Rangers will choose to go that route.