Matsuzaka: Red Sox Win w/ $51.1M Bid

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Boras or not, Matsuzaka is the one making the desicions.

 

That's correct, and it's Matsuzaka that chose Boras. I think Boras's modus operandi is well known, so it should come as no surprise to anyone that he will play hardball in negotiating the contract.

 

Hendry and Boras have a history though, including Hendry calling Boras on his bluffs(Brownlie). If the Cubs offer him something worthwhile(better than Ichiro got, but not this 8 figure per year craziness), I have a hard time seeing Daisuke ultimately turning that down.

[Mephistopheles]

It comes from Jim Hendry's krispy kreme fund, of course.

[abuck1220]

I'm just guessing, but if someone leaks something like this, it's done on purpose...and purposefully BELOW what the bid really is.

 

I'd guess the Cubs will bid way higher than that...way higher. Why bother if you don't intend on capturing the prize?

 

 

to make the fans think you're trying. like they did with beltran.

[MustangMike]

It comes from Jim Hendry's krispy kreme fund, of course.

 

You're gonna get it for making a donut reference!!!

[RichHillIsABeast]

Boras or not, Matsuzaka is the one making the desicions.

 

That's correct, and it's Matsuzaka that chose Boras. I think Boras's modus operandi is well known, so it should come as no surprise to anyone that he will play hardball in negotiating the contract.

 

Hendry and Boras have a history though, including Hendry calling Boras on his bluffs(Brownlie). If the Cubs offer him something worthwhile(better than Ichiro got, but not this 8 figure per year craziness), I have a hard time seeing Daisuke ultimately turning that down.

 

What was the story with Brownlie?

 

A monster contract to a pitcher with abuse issues and the whole transition to MLB problem isn't warranted.

 

I can't believe that the market has changed so much since Ichiro came over.

 

edit: grammar

Edited November 7, 2006 by RichHillIsABeast

[goonys evil twin]

How many threads is this guy going to inspire?

[CubFanPhilly]

How many threads is this guy going to inspire?

 

Two more: one for the negotiations with Boras and another announcing the signing.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

What was the story with Brownlie?

 

Boras tried to play hardball and threaten to have Brownlie go back to school/play in an indy league(can't remember which). Hendry didn't budge and he signed in February I believe.

[Garwilly]

How many threads is this guy going to inspire?

 

Two more: one for the negotiations with Boras and another announcing the signing.

 

Don't forget the Cy Young, WS game thread, HOF threads.

[goonys evil twin]

I can't believe that the market has changed so much since Ichiro came over.

 

Well, the success of Ichiro, and others, is why the price tag for other Japanese stars has gone up. Before, there was significant doubt that such a player could transition to MLB. Now, those doubts have decreased immensely.

[TruffleShuffle]

How many threads is this guy going to inspire?

 

Two more: one for the negotiations with Boras and another announcing the signing.

 

Don't forget the Cy Young, WS game thread, HOF threads.

 

Well, that would be assuming that the Cubs don't sign him.

[RichHillIsABeast]

I can't believe that the market has changed so much since Ichiro came over.

 

Well, the success of Ichiro, and others, is why the price tag for other Japanese stars has gone up. Before, there was significant doubt that such a player could transition to MLB. Now, those doubts have decreased immensely.

 

Ichiro's power sure didn't translate. Kaz Matsui's didn't.

 

Defense and ability to hit for average seems to translate just fine.

 

Pitching? We haven't seen a consistent world burner come out of Japan yet. The doubts around Japanese pitching haven't lessened much. A few WBC performances don't mean much.

 

I guess we'll see just how much the market has changed with Matsuzaka's posting fee and contract. The market will change again depending on his success. If he flops or becomes a recurring injury nightmare, he really hurts the Japanese pitchers' chances of coming over here and making money.

[Guest]

what about the ten injury threads?

[Banedon]

I merged the threads...lets keep all the Matsuzaka posts here please. We don't need a new thread for each rumor.

[Guest]

I merged the threads...lets keep all the Matsuzaka posts here please. We don't need a new thread for each rumor.

 

I have to say I disagree with this. Threads over 30 pages should be archived and a new thread started. No one wants to read this whole thing and you end up getting repetitive posts.

[USSoccer]

I merged the threads...lets keep all the Matsuzaka posts here please. We don't need a new thread for each rumor.

 

I have to say I disagree with this. Threads over 30 pages should be archived and a new thread started. No one wants to read this whole thing and you end up getting repetitive posts.

 

MOD FIGHT!!

[goonys evil twin]

I merged the threads...lets keep all the Matsuzaka posts here please. We don't need a new thread for each rumor.

 

I have to say I disagree with this. Threads over 30 pages should be archived and a new thread started. No one wants to read this whole thing and you end up getting repetitive posts.

 

How would you eliminate repetitive posts simply by starting a new thread?

[CubinNY]

I merged the threads...lets keep all the Matsuzaka posts here please. We don't need a new thread for each rumor.

 

I have to say I disagree with this. Threads over 30 pages should be archived and a new thread started. No one wants to read this whole thing and you end up getting repetitive posts.

 

How would you eliminate repetitive posts simply by starting a new thread?

 

Yea, how would you eliminate repetitive posts simply by starting a new thread?

[goonys evil twin]

I merged the threads...lets keep all the Matsuzaka posts here please. We don't need a new thread for each rumor.

 

I have to say I disagree with this. Threads over 30 pages should be archived and a new thread started. No one wants to read this whole thing and you end up getting repetitive posts.

 

How would you eliminate repetitive posts simply by starting a new thread?

 

Yea, how would you eliminate repetitive posts simply by starting a new thread?

 

Good question.

[USSoccer]

I merged the threads...lets keep all the Matsuzaka posts here please. We don't need a new thread for each rumor.

 

I have to say I disagree with this. Threads over 30 pages should be archived and a new thread started. No one wants to read this whole thing and you end up getting repetitive posts.

 

How would you eliminate repetitive posts simply by starting a new thread?

 

Yea, how would you eliminate repetitive posts simply by starting a new thread?

 

Good question.

 

That's a great point. Starting a new thread wouldn't eliminate redundant posts.

[Guest]

I merged the threads...lets keep all the Matsuzaka posts here please. We don't need a new thread for each rumor.

 

I have to say I disagree with this. Threads over 30 pages should be archived and a new thread started. No one wants to read this whole thing and you end up getting repetitive posts.

 

How would you eliminate repetitive posts simply by starting a new thread?

 

Yea, how would you eliminate repetitive posts simply by starting a new thread?

 

Good question.

 

That's a great point. Starting a new thread wouldn't eliminate redundant posts.

 

because we can ignore the separate thread!

[Sammy Sofa]

Or we pay attention to a thread that's completely different!

[CaliforniaRaisin]

I merged the threads...lets keep all the Matsuzaka posts here please. We don't need a new thread for each rumor.

 

I have to say I disagree with this. Threads over 30 pages should be archived and a new thread started. No one wants to read this whole thing and you end up getting repetitive posts.

 

MOD FIGHT!!

 

Not really...

[USSoccer]

I merged the threads...lets keep all the Matsuzaka posts here please. We don't need a new thread for each rumor.

 

I have to say I disagree with this. Threads over 30 pages should be archived and a new thread started. No one wants to read this whole thing and you end up getting repetitive posts.

 

MOD FIGHT!!

 

Not really...

 

I know. Just bored at my desk.

[NorthsideAvenger]

As Pink and cool have already touched on....the rumor $21 million bid is nothing but a smokescreen. One thing FOR SURE, is that no team is going to bid UNDER $21 million.