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Watching Cavani go 1/7 on sitters is always entertaining.

It'd be nice if UEFA bothered to make their draw seem marginally not-rigged.

Josh Bellamy has worse hands than JPP

Clint hovering behind everyone like a malevolent ghost is just weird

Bradley's PK was one of the worst I've ever seen that was technically on frame.

Wow Stefan Frei. Taking your last attacking threat off the field is probably not going to end well for Seattle

I know it seems like an easy out but the fact that it's 15 degrees out is probably having a big impact at how imprecise the passing and touches have been in the final third. Jesus anyone but Ricketts scores there

Toronto has been markedly better than Seattle tonight. Kelly has done a garbage job managing this game. I know you don't want to show cards in a final but he's let way too much go. It's too bad Clint isn't in this game.

Is this some other Adam Eaton I'm not aware of?

You mean a month like October where he played like a cheat code for three weeks? Javy absolutely helped us get to and win a WS, I will never argue against that. There's still red flags all over him that he shouldn't be more than a platoon player/defensive sub. Also vs RHP in the playoffs.... .265/.280/.469 (.749) with 17 Ks and 1 BB in 49 ABs. Those numbers aren't godawful (well, the Ks are) when you consider they came against generally high level RHP and his overall numbers look good despite his pressing for most of the WS. If I'm not mistaken that was also the longest run of games he had in a row all year. Even with his WS dip he showed well. Who's to say he can't build on that when he gets to consistently face RHP not named Jansen or Kluber?

Having Javy as insurance if Addy gets hurt is what he's talking about. A 15-20 game stretch without Addy, puts the 35-40 starts Tim is proposing, as a reality. Having THIS type of quality depth is something no one else has. Its valuable. Got it. Well this scenario of not having Javy isn't that big of a deal to me over whoever the back up SS would be because Javy would be mostly a glove only backup, IMO, if he has to expand to a starting role for a ~month with not having the luxury of being protected vs RHP and facing favorable pitching matchups. You mean a month like October where he played like a cheat code for three weeks?

Seriously. I'm gonna extend the FO more than a one-month grace period after bringing us the first World Series in 108 years but that's just me You aren't wrong but I'd rather pay Jansen than deal for Davis.

Aren't forearm issues the precursor to an elbow exploding?

Seriously.

Trading Soler for Davis would be an inefficient use of Soler

I don't think that's unfair, but I also don't think it's unfair to point out that Baez's 2016 output is also due to factors beyond himself. He saw more LHP than an everyday player would, and was shielded from specific RHP unless he was in good form. His defensive flexibility is awesome, but if the corner OF is more settled next year then there's less use for that flexibility(not no use, but less). Ultimately people are saying it's probably at least as likely that Baez is exposed with more playing time that he takes an additional step. Given the current and immediate future of the rotation, surely you can get while people would be willing to forego his flexibility and upside to make that part of the team so much better, right? If you look at the corner OF situation another way, having Javy around helped greatly mitigate Schwarber missing 160 games and Heyward being awful. If you deal Javy, and it turns out that Schwarber is killing you defensively or someone gets hurt, our ability to weather that is reduced. I understand that the rotation questions now and next year necessitate making some sort of move, but I think there are other ways to go about fixing it. Just to go a step further, Schwarber is probably going to end up a DH at some point in the medium-future. He's going to be a below average LF. We wouldn't deal him for a pitcher and rightly so-despite a very real limitation to his game, he's really valuable to our team right now because his bat is elite. Our ML guys with demonstrated elite skills shouldn't be used in deals unless we don't have another option, and I think we have options. Is it not unreasonable to think you could trade for Archer in May when Tampa is 20 games back and Eloy and Happ maybe have strong starts in the minors? Is the 2017 FA class for pitchers that bad where we can't just throw money at the problem? Atlanta isn't close to contention; might they settle for guys in the system+Soler for Teheran? I'd prefer routes like that.

I feel like the idea that 2016 is potentially Javy's peak is something that is being said a lot. I'm just wondering how a guy who did improve markedly in his first full season of ML play is someone who people feel comfortable saying he's never going to be better that he currently is when he's 23. I get he's not the archetype of guy this front office would generally prefer but it's odd to me that a guy with his skill set is so easily included in a deal for a pitcher and all the uncertainty that position brings. Javy's flexibility and elite defense within said flexibility is something that makes figuring out the rest of the roster and managing said roster so much easier. His bat is such that it can carry a team for a stretch of time a la Soriano. He's currently cheap for his production. He's more valuable to this team and how it's set up that he would be as a piece for Chris Archer.

I would say that you're probably wrong, given he was always the one guy of the "core" that would take longer to reach his ceiling and I'm going to guess that his age 23 season with his most PA yet in MLB isn't going to be indicative of the final product. The guy is a difference making talent. You can make an argument that we don't get to the WS without him. I'm of the opinion that you want as many of those kind of talents available as possible. He's improved every year; there's nothing to say he can't take another step forward and be even more valuable in 2017.

The system is not very good at the moment. I'm more than fine with keeping Javy and getting a different pitcher, but if you want someone of Quintana's caliber there's very likely only one way to get there, and that's by trading Baez. And now is the time to trade him. Jay's value has never been higher, thanks to the attention he received during the playoffs. I also doubt it goes up from here. Defenders like Javy don't grow on trees. Defenders like Javy who hit LHP the way he does and who still have the kind of ceiling he does are even rarer. Hard pass on dealing Javy.

Screw trading Javy for Quintana. That's what the system is for.

Ohio state deserved to lose that game. 2 penalties for 6 yards are you kidding me? What I mean is that Michigan threw two dumb INT, committed a dumb PI, and let someone who was trapped 10 yards behind the LOS dance around and somehow get within a yard. You can't do that and expect to win.

That was the chokiest choke that ever choked

Oh my god that's a bad spot

Michigan deserve to lose this game.

It's a shame Lodiero didn't come a year earlier; can you imagine a front 3 of Clint, Oba and Lodiero?