That's the dividing line. I think a lot of us ultimately see him in the same area as guys like Macias or Neifi. From that perspective, it's baffling as to how anyone can "like him" as a baseball player, especially since there's little to seperate them from him, and the charges that they were "lazy" or that they were "stupid" seems nonsensical as if Theriot is some shining example of the opposite type of player. I don't think anyone here actually dislikes the guy as a person, but as a starting player there's mountains of tangible problems to dislike or be frustrated over. No, it's not his fault that he's starting, but that doesn't mean anyone has to appreciate him in that role or the negligble big league skills/talent he brings with him. Nobody is rooting for him to do poorly...it's just terribly unlikely he'll be anything but poor. Yeah, that does seem to be the dividing line. I don't believe him to be a star, but if he can do the .280 average with some stolen bases and good defense, I'm fine with him on the team. I guess I dont' seem him as a liability like I did for Macias and Perez. I think Cendeno will get his cracks at it as well, but I dont' see other options right now. DeRosa can't play there. I'm more worried about the team as a whole, why is no one hitting? I will agree with one complaint on this board, I'd rather have Riot hit 8th or even 9th. The lineup I'm confused with right now.