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2 minutes ago, Tangled Up in Plaid said:

I do like Turd Ferguson, he might be able to stick even when guys come back

I doubt it.

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Just now, Tangled Up in Plaid said:

if you're a padres fan do you consider this a fake rally?

If I was a Padres fan, I am asking why the Baseball Gods hate us by putting us in the Dodgers division. 

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That was a great interview with Dansby! Started tearing up and getting a little emotional - shows his passion and how him coming out of that dreadful slump means to him. Good teammate and I’m glad to see him doing well the past 2-3 series! 

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9 minutes ago, Tangled Up in Plaid said:

I do like Turd Ferguson, he might be able to stick even when guys come back

Yeah I think he's legit.  I wonder if he's a guy you won't want facing tough lefties? And Craig bringing Rolison in tonight shows they're not super confident in him against lefties either.  But he looks good, the results have been great, and the stuff models both have hard-ons for him.

We just desperately need to get back to a point where he's our 6th or 7th best reliever instead of our 3rd.

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8 minutes ago, Papa Cub said:

That was a great interview with Dansby! Started tearing up and getting a little emotional - shows his passion and how him coming out of that dreadful slump means to him. Good teammate and I’m glad to see him doing well the past 2-3 series! 


I usually switch off soon after a game, so haven’t watched the interview. Lots of high salary athletes get crapped on for “making bank and not caring about their performances”, but that’s not true at all. Dansby can’t be accused of not caring when he’s hitting poorly. He cares. A lot. 

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15 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

From 15 over to 0 over to 10 over.  Wild ride

the 2026 Cubs are addicted to being streaky. oh well, i guess thats just the ride they want to take us on 

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Man if this team just had average pitching. Need arms in the worst way. And need guys back from injuries. I know captain obvious here, but it’s pretty amazing we are where we are when you look at all the freaking pitching injuries. 

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6 hours ago, Tangled Up in Plaid said:

Taillon with a possible rehab start on Sunday. Can't say I'm excited

He has a 6.31 FIP and a -0.7 WAR.  Sub- replacement performance.  And that's in April/May before the weather really heats up and the wind gets going..  The guy has a 5.31 ERA even with a fantastic defense behind him.  You could even make a decent argument we're better without him.  

I like the guy a lot but he sucks.  His stuff is batting practice and his 4-seamer is so terrible he's done his best to abandon it.

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5 hours ago, Stratos said:

He has a 6.31 FIP and a -0.7 WAR.  Sub- replacement performance.  And that's in April/May before the weather really heats up and the wind gets going..  The guy has a 5.31 ERA even with a fantastic defense behind him.  You could even make a decent argument we're better without him.  

I like the guy a lot but he sucks.  His stuff is batting practice and his 4-seamer is so terrible he's done his best to abandon it.

He’s up there with 2006 Glendan Rush for worst individual season from a cubs pitcher off the top of my head.

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6 hours ago, Stratos said:

He has a 6.31 FIP and a -0.7 WAR.  Sub- replacement performance.  And that's in April/May before the weather really heats up and the wind gets going..  The guy has a 5.31 ERA even with a fantastic defense behind him.  You could even make a decent argument we're better without him.  

I like the guy a lot but he sucks.  His stuff is batting practice and his 4-seamer is so terrible he's done his best to abandon it.

I mean it was just 9 months ago he was nails in the playoffs and at the end of the regular season too.  Does it go that fast?  Is there no hope at all?  We've seen him look terrible for stretches before and recover to look pretty good before, it's not unprecedented.

Well, all we can do is hope because he's gonna get some innings when he gets back and more than likely a relatively long leash, I would think whether I agree or not.

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37 minutes ago, We Got The Whole 9 said:

Finished June with 3.1! Thats a bad motherfucker.

People would’ve called you nuts back in early April if you predicted he’d have a 373 OBP through 86 games. I don’t think he’ll sustain his 9.6 war pace but even finishing with a 130 wRC+ would put him over 8 war. 
 

It’s reminiscent of Caleb cutting his sack% by 250%. Let’s hope his completion percentage is next. 

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1 hour ago, CubUgly said:

I mean it was just 9 months ago he was nails in the playoffs and at the end of the regular season too.  Does it go that fast?  Is there no hope at all?  We've seen him look terrible for stretches before and recover to look pretty good before, it's not unprecedented.

Well, all we can do is hope because he's gonna get some innings when he gets back and more than likely a relatively long leash, I would think whether I agree or not.

It's not, but a lot of factors are not on his side for him flipping his WAR into the positives.  You might luck out and get a few games out of him with 5+ IP and minimal damage down the stretch, but all signs point to falling off the regression cliff for Jamo.

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1 hour ago, CubUgly said:

I mean it was just 9 months ago he was nails in the playoffs and at the end of the regular season too.  Does it go that fast?  Is there no hope at all?  We've seen him look terrible for stretches before and recover to look pretty good before, it's not unprecedented.

Well, all we can do is hope because he's gonna get some innings when he gets back and more than likely a relatively long leash, I would think whether I agree or not.

Yes. It goes that fast. Jameson Taillon was a pitcher who was living on a pretty razor thin margin. He's a low ground ball pitcher who outpitched his xFIP last year by a significant margin. He strikes out less than the league average. The one thing he did last year was control batted balls and limit walks. 

This year his fastball is down half a mile (give or take) his Stuff+ has dipped again, and his walk rate has jumped from really good to just "controlled". He's still giving up a lot of flyballs. It's not a winning combination.

He's on the last year of his deal. For the time being, maybe he can eat some innings on a team who needs human beings (we just celebrated 4 pretty good innings from Bryse Wilson, the bar is underground right now). But he's also on the very short list for pitchers who can take a hike when the Cubs the upgrade the position. For example, right now, I would rank him behind: Boyd, Shota, Peterson and Rea. Brown and Cabrera are iffy on what you can expect either to give, but we can probably assume one of them comes back. Then add in a trade for another SP. He's probably 7th in depth. And that doesn't count a possible Jaxon Wiggins sighting or Justin Steele giving time in the rotation which are both "possible, but neither feel like it's more than a low-likelihood of happening". 

Taillon as well offers nothing in relief. 

Maybe his velocity rebounds and he finds some of the variance last year. But I think it does go that fast, and I wouldn't be surprised to see Jamo outside of the organization by August 1st.

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1 hour ago, CubUgly said:

I mean it was just 9 months ago he was nails in the playoffs and at the end of the regular season too.  Does it go that fast?  Is there no hope at all?  We've seen him look terrible for stretches before and recover to look pretty good before, it's not unprecedented.

Well, all we can do is hope because he's gonna get some innings when he gets back and more than likely a relatively long leash, I would think whether I agree or not.

Yes fair enough.  Problem is what  performance we have to put up with on the hope he might get on a roll.  His margin for error seems very low.

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34 minutes ago, Stratos said:

Yes fair enough.  Problem is what  performance we have to put up with on the hope he might get on a roll.  His margin for error seems very low.

Oh, It's not like I'm optimistic, just hoping and wishing because I do think he'll get more opportunity than many of us are comfortable with. 

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You don't have to go digging terribly deep for a season where Taillon gave up a million dongs in the first half and simply stopped in the second half.  Hell last year it even corresponded with an IL stint for a leg injury.

I think Taillon is probably true talent not that different from Rea and Assad.  And we know Rea/Assad play up in the bullpen.  I'd probably have Taillon in the rotation until the deadline if we're being honest.

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