Screw Winter Doldrums! The Get a Big Bat and Call It an Offseason Thread

[Tryptamine]

When figuring in the penalty, that's over 100M a year for Tucker no? So Tucker alone is more than some team's entire payroll

[WhyCantWeWin]

Dodgers making the most of the ohtani years. 

[Cubs420psd]

Just insane.

 

The Dodgers are the making the Evil Empire era Yankees look like a small market club.

[mk49]

3 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

When figuring in the penalty, that's over 100M a year for Tucker no? So Tucker alone is more than some team's entire payroll

Probably, more like $120M?

[NorthsideAvenger]

The big risk for the Dodgers is that Tucker has been injury marred the last two season's so....

I'm trying to find something positive. 

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

1 hour ago, mk49 said:

4 years, $240 million with opt out after 2027.

What the hell

[Bertz]

Turns out that weird guy who repeatedly said we should extend Tucker but only for four years was kind of cooking

[mk49]

51 minutes ago, Cubs420psd said:

Just insane.

 

The Dodgers are the making the Evil Empire era Yankees look like a small market club.

Never underestimate the power of the dark side.😁

[CubinNY]

1 hour ago, Post Count Padder said:

Passan on fire right now

 

I say this every year, and it never pans, but I like what the Reds are doing

[CubinNY]

It's almost unfair how smart the Dodgers are and how great the ownership is. There are 0 reasons why Tucker shouldn't be on the Cubs even with Bregman. They choose to be ass holes. 

[Cuzi]

It seems when you keep winning WS that you keep making more and more money and the less the tax penalty matters. Interesting strategy. Wish the Cubs thought of it.

Edited January 16 by Cuzi

[Tryptamine]

They're doing what they did with Ohtani and with Yamamoto. Yeah, those contracts are huge money, but it also vastly expanded their brand and brought in millions if not tens of millions of new fans who throw an ungodly amount of money at the various Dodger products to the point that those contracts are likely miniscule in comparison.. Now if they establish themselves as a historic dynasty they become what the Yankees of yesteryear were, unparalleled popularity but on a world wide level.

[We Got The Whole 9]

Set a floor at 150m and a cap at 300. This is absurd.

[squally1313]

22 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

They're doing what they did with Ohtani and with Yamamoto. Yeah, those contracts are huge money, but it also vastly expanded their brand and brought in millions if not tens of millions of new fans who throw an ungodly amount of money at the various Dodger products to the point that those contracts are likely miniscule in comparison.. Now if they establish themselves as a historic dynasty they become what the Yankees of yesteryear were, unparalleled popularity but on a world wide level.

Yeah but Kyle Tucker is a white dude from Texas who had a total of zero cool moments outside of being incredible at hitting baseballs. I get going after Japan, but....Texas? 

They have an incredible local television deal and a 60,000 seat stadium that is a tourist destination on top of putting out an elite product. And they have an investment vehicle that (educated guessing here) has them pretty easily outpacing the present value calcs that the MLB makes them do on all these deferrals. Or they're secretly funding the downfall of this country and never actually intend to pay the $1.2 billion of deferred money, or whatever it is. Either way, they're playing a different game than everyone else. 

[mk49]

Supposedly, with the extra tax, the Dodgers are going to pay $120M for Tucker in 2026.  A few teams pay the same amount or less for the entire roster.  Just insane.

Edited January 16 by mk49

[Geographyhater8888]

Dodgers stack high priced star players like Nick Saban stacked 5 star recruits. They’re worse than Steinbrenners 2000’s Yankees. Their loss not having clean books in time for the new CBA.

Edited January 16 by Geographyhater8888

[Jason Ross]

57 minutes ago, Geographyhater8888 said:

Dodgers stack high priced star players like Nick Saban stacked 5 star recruits. They’re worse than Steinbrenners 2000’s Yankees. Their loss not have clean books in time for the new CBA.

I think there are a lot of people are going to be very surprised when there is no salary cap coming. Because I don't think one is coming; I think the owners will push for one as a guise to get other things. But a cap requires open books, revenue sharing and a floor, and there's no chance in hell they actually want all of that. 

The Dodgers are likely going to be fine in this regards. Instead what we'll see is more cost cutting measures (like we are seeing in how the MLB is limiting what data is allowed and how centralized MiLB and amateur data is), more profit streams (do ya like those helmet ads in the playoffs? They're coming to the regular season) and stronger limitations in going over the LT (to reduce spending artificially, but without it being a "cap" so that there doesn't have to be a floor or open books). But realistically. LA will be alright (they make so much money they don't care that Tucker is costing $125m - the penalties will likely be fine to their bottom line) and there isn't a cap coming.

[BigbadB]

7 hours ago, Cuzi said:

It seems when you keep winning WS that you keep making more and more money and the less the tax penalty matters. Interesting strategy. Wish the Cubs thought of it.

I'd feel dirty cheering for a team that does what the Dodgers are doing. I wouldn't get satisfaction from watching the varsity baseball team at a high school competing against the junior varsity teams of half the teams and the little league teams of the others. 

Not sure how that's even fun, but whatever. 

[Geographyhater8888]

11 minutes ago, Jason Ross said:

I think there are a lot of people are going to be very surprised when there is no salary cap coming. Because I don't think one is coming; I think the owners will push for one as a guise to get other things. But a cap requires open books, revenue sharing and a floor, and there's no chance in hell they actually want all of that. 

The Dodgers are likely going to be fine in this regards. Instead what we'll see is more cost cutting measures (like we are seeing in how the MLB is limiting what data is allowed and how centralized MiLB and amateur data is), more profit streams (do ya like those helmet ads in the playoffs? They're coming to the regular season) and stronger limitations in going over the LT (to reduce spending artificially, but without it being a "cap" so that there doesn't have to be a floor or open books). But realistically. LA will be alright (they make so much money they don't care that Tucker is costing $125m - the penalties will likely be fine to their bottom line) and there isn't a cap coming.

Whether or not there’s a salary cap my “their loss” comment was stated with the utmost sarcasm. 

Edited January 16 by Geographyhater8888

[Jason Ross]

3 minutes ago, Geographyhater8888 said:

Whether or not there’s a salary cap my “their loss” comment was stated with the utmost sarcasm. 

It's early. I can't read. Whoops

[CubUgly]

9 hours ago, Dfan25 said:

60 AAV 😂 . I know the deferrals will come out at some point that will bring the value down , but still hilarious .

It's all monopoly money for the Dodgers with that big tv contract money they get every year and will be for the next 12.  They don't care if they overpay and they don't care if Tucker is injured half the time or having to pay huge tax penalties.  They are playing in a different pool than everyone else....even Cohen and the Mets. 

They get $334 million a year from that tv contract before any other revenue comes in.  If they get stuck with bad contracts they can just buy their way out and don't even blink. 

 

[Geographyhater8888]

13 minutes ago, Jason Ross said:

It's early. I can't read. Whoops

It’s demoralizing how we’re in here praising our great offseason trading for Cabrera and signing Bregman while the back to back champs have added Tucker and Diaz to their already stacked roster. Who’s beating them without a number of major injuries? 
 

[cl smooth]

31 minutes ago, BigbadB said:

I'd feel dirty cheering for a team that does what the Dodgers are doing. I wouldn't get satisfaction from watching the varsity baseball team at a high school competing against the junior varsity teams of half the teams and the little league teams of the others. 

Not sure how that's even fun, but whatever. 

Counter argument: it’s great to see ownership invest in a team to win and to keep their fans happy/excited. Multi-millionaire and billionaire owners crying poor/acting like a poverty franchise is horsefeathers. 

 

[Geographyhater8888]

17 minutes ago, CubUgly said:

It's all monopoly money for the Dodgers with that big tv contract money they get every year and will be for the next 12.  They don't care if they overpay and they don't care if Tucker is injured half the time or having to pay huge tax penalties.  They are playing in a different pool than everyone else....even Cohen and the Mets. 

They get $334 million a year from that tv contract before any other revenue comes in.  If they get stuck with bad contracts they can just buy their way out and don't even blink. 

 

They basically slept walked tonight 93 wins, got healthy by design during late September and steamrolled their way through the NL. Ran into the Jays who were a buzz saw and yet their talent ultimately prevailed. They’re not much different from Sabans Bama teams recruiting every 5 star recruit.

Edited January 16 by Geographyhater8888

[Geographyhater8888]

35 minutes ago, BigbadB said:

I'd feel dirty cheering for a team that does what the Dodgers are doing. I wouldn't get satisfaction from watching the varsity baseball team at a high school competing against the junior varsity teams of half the teams and the little league teams of the others. 

Not sure how that's even fun, but whatever. 

Would you feel dirty cheering for the Cubs if we swapped places? I wouldn’t.