Chicago Bears Offseason Thread (the tank must payoff)

[UK]

29 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

I wonder what it would take to get Montez Sweat who is reportedly available during the draft? 

I can't imagine them trading Sweat when they declined a 5th year on Young.

If there's a QB at 9, I wonder if Washington calls the Bears and asks for something like of swap of 16 for 9 and a 4th.

If you're the Bears, do you take that risk?

[Tryptamine]

10 minutes ago, UK said:

I can't imagine them trading Sweat when they declined a 5th year on Young.

If there's a QB at 9, I wonder if Washington calls the Bears and asks for something like of swap of 16 for 9 and a 4th.

If you're the Bears, do you take that risk?

There's no doubt they'd rather move Young and pay Sweat, but supposedly they were both available. I'd have to think Sweat would set you back like a mid to late 2nd in draft value.

[We Got The Whole 9]

How big is the gap between Bijan and Brown? Brown's athletic profile is really horsefeathering good, so was his rushing production, but he didn't catch many balls. However, how much of that was a function of the offense? IIRC he looked smooth in the catching drills.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I'm fine with whatever.  If they followed what I believe to be best draft practices, they probably end up with one of the defensive studs or maaaaybe an OL.   If they focus on need, it has to be OL.   But Bijan or JSN would be the most fun.

[Brian707]

3 hours ago, JeffH said:

Setting aside the issue of skill positions versus the trenches, it would be criminal insanity to take JSN over Bijan, if they were both available.

I agree

[Magnetic Curses]

1 hour ago, Tryptamine said:

I wonder what it would take to get Montez Sweat who is reportedly available during the draft? 

I think it's Chase that's available, pick swap and Chase?

[Tryptamine]

50 minutes ago, Magnetic Curses said:

I think it's Chase that's available, pick swap and Chase?

Both

[Rex Buckingham]

1 hour ago, We Got The Whole 9 said:

How big is the gap between Bijan and Brown? Brown's athletic profile is really horsefeathering good, so was his rushing production, but he didn't catch many balls. However, how much of that was a function of the offense? IIRC he looked smooth in the catching drills.

I think Brown's lack of catches was a lot about the offense they ran.  He was very comfortable catching the ball.  Robinson just does everything Brown does while being bigger and thus seemingly more likely to withstand the pounding a RB takes.  However, Brown takes care of his body as well as anyone.  Dude is ripped

[Magnetic Curses]

32 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

Both

They picked up Sweat's option but not Chase's. Not sure if that means anything, but it could 

[We Got The Whole 9]

1 hour ago, Rex Buckingham said:

I think Brown's lack of catches was a lot about the offense they ran.  He was very comfortable catching the ball.  Robinson just does everything Brown does while being bigger and thus seemingly more likely to withstand the pounding a RB takes.  However, Brown takes care of his body as well as anyone.  Dude is ripped

Yeah we are talking about a 9.77 RAS vs a 9.55 with the difference clearly being in the size category. But Brown beats him in speed and explosion. Sounds like his blocking is a significant weakness, too, but I would be thrilled if they added Brown to the backfield. 

[Magnetic Curses]

39 minutes ago, We Got The Whole 9 said:

Yeah we are talking about a 9.77 RAS vs a 9.55 with the difference clearly being in the size category. But Brown beats him in speed and explosion. Sounds like his blocking is a significant weakness, too, but I would be thrilled if they added Brown to the backfield. 

Brown cuts it back quickly and runs just about as well as any running back in the draft. he's the anti-Monty.

[jersey cubs fan]

4 hours ago, UMFan83 said:

He's referring to…, Sulley (Magnetic Curses). 

[Magnetic Curses]

25 minutes ago, jersey cubs fan said:

for you, playa

[Outshined_One]

10 minutes ago, Magnetic Curses said:

for you, playa

[raw]

4 hours ago, We Got The Whole 9 said:

How big is the gap between Bijan and Brown? Brown's athletic profile is really horsefeathering good, so was his rushing production, but he didn't catch many balls. However, how much of that was a function of the offense? IIRC he looked smooth in the catching drills.

Chase Brown from Illinois?  The gap is huge in talent. In actual effect on an NFL offense? Maybe not as big, but Bijan is almost certainly going to be handed 80% snap rate as a rookie if he's healthy. Brown will have to find his spots in a rotation.  

Of course, part of that is where they'll be drafted, but the other part is pure talent.

 

[jersey cubs fan]

Jalen Carter to Bears official 

[jersey cubs fan]

Bijan would have been fun 

[jersey cubs fan]

Next years 4th is all you can get?

[minnesotacubsfan]

36 minutes ago, jersey cubs fan said:

Jalen Carter to Bears official 

Yea, the Philadelphia Bears

[sweetpeteman]

Seems like they weren't going to take Carter and Philly offered essentially a free pick.

[jersey cubs fan]

Meh. That’s fine. Definitely a need pick over BPA situation. Poles forced himself into taking that one. 

[minnesotacubsfan]

Reach?

Edited April 28, 2023 by minnesotacubsfan

[Hairyducked Idiot]

There were five trade-downs in the first 9 picks and we made two of them. Eventually you run out of market to trade down into.

I couldn't possibly be happier with how this offseason has gone. I guess maybe if we'd replaced Braxton Jones, but a good opportunity to get a LT never really materialized.

Otherwise, this is exactly how I've always said I wanted them to behave.  They picked up two upgraded starters on the OL and a star WR1 (in addition to the WR2/3 we picked up mid-season).   And we did it while also adding a crap-ton of future draft capital.

Fields is in about as good of an environment as you could possibly ask for in his make-or-break season, absolutely zero more excuses.  And if he fails, that's bad, but at least we're already setting up the next guy to succeed.
 

[jersey cubs fan]

They blatantly took need over value in the first round. I could be happier 

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Just now, jersey cubs fan said:

They blatantly took need over value in the first round. I could be happier 

Who did we pass on that was higher value but non-need?