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Sounds like Willy wants out.

 

Or wants someone else (Rizzo?) out

Wait, I'm confused. It was my understanding that Rossie was hired because he could communicate with the players and get the most out of them.

Willy is a Taurus, he's basically saying it's in his nature to speak his mind and be honest. Let's relax here he's not subtweeting somebody.

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Or wants someone else (Rizzo?) out

Wait, I'm confused. It was my understanding that Rossie was hired because he could communicate with the players and get the most out of them.

Willy is a Taurus, he's basically saying it's in his nature to speak his mind and be honest. Let's relax here he's not subtweeting somebody.

Yep, he probably got some horsefeathers either internally or on social media for throwing unnamed players under the bus with those comments a few days ago, so all he's saying is that he says it to their face too.

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What is that?

 

Clase Azul Reposado.

 

Friends gave it to me for my birthday. I bought one myself when it was gone. We've gone through 4 bottles between our two houses and I'm getting ready to buy another. It's $140 - $150, so not an everyday tequila or something you mix in a margarita. But it's a great sipping tequila. Highly recommend.

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Oh, that stuff is the horsefeathers. Also recommend.

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Well, it certainly does sound like ssr has been eclipsed by more then one nsbb'r

 

$140 mezcal?!

 

I mean he does earn like the equivalent of one and a half bottles of that per minute

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I can (after an appropriate period of mourning) accept choosing Baez over Bryant. He's likely more agreeable to an extension, he probably won't get enormous money given uneven performance and a loaded SS market this year, he's a year younger which matters a lot in any deal of sufficient length, and it's easier to get lucky and find Bryant's productivity from the corners than it is to find someone who does what Javy can. However, please please please don't extend Rizzo now. You want to not trade him and keep your options open? Great. But if you're extending him now you're likely signing yourself up for way too much decline at too heavy a price, and Rizzo's recent health and performance doesn't paint a picture of productivity you must keep at all costs. He's the anti-Javy in terms of how easy it is to find his recent level of production.
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I can (after an appropriate period of mourning) accept choosing Baez over Bryant. He's likely more agreeable to an extension, he probably won't get enormous money given uneven performance and a loaded SS market this year, he's a year younger which matters a lot in any deal of sufficient length, and it's easier to get lucky and find Bryant's productivity from the corners than it is to find someone who does what Javy can. However, please please please don't extend Rizzo now. You want to not trade him and keep your options open? Great. But if you're extending him now you're likely signing yourself up for way too much decline at too heavy a price, and Rizzo's recent health and performance doesn't paint a picture of productivity you must keep at all costs. He's the anti-Javy in terms of how easy it is to find his recent level of production.

Is there any semi-realistic low-price/short-duration extension for Rizzo that wouldn't make you (and I) blanch? What are the numbers?

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I assumed that Baez and Rizzo were the most likely extensions and I think a lot of people feel the same. I want so badly to keep Bryant too but Boras clients generally don't stay put and I don't see the horsefeathering Ricketts shelling out the kind of money to keep him from testing the market.

 

Maybe Rizzo stays for something like 6/90 and Baez accepts a one year deal with an option as a prove it after a down year last year and a meh season this year.

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I assumed that Baez and Rizzo were the most likely extensions and I think a lot of people feel the same. I want so badly to keep Bryant too but Boras clients generally don't stay put and I don't see the horsefeathering Ricketts shelling out the kind of money to keep him from testing the market.

 

Maybe Rizzo stays for something like 6/90 and Baez accepts a one year deal with an option as a prove it after a down year last year and a meh season this year.

Rizzo already turned down 5/70 and has played worse than that this year, so if he gets extended it's not going to look a thing like 6/90.

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I can (after an appropriate period of mourning) accept choosing Baez over Bryant. He's likely more agreeable to an extension, he probably won't get enormous money given uneven performance and a loaded SS market this year, he's a year younger which matters a lot in any deal of sufficient length, and it's easier to get lucky and find Bryant's productivity from the corners than it is to find someone who does what Javy can. However, please please please don't extend Rizzo now. You want to not trade him and keep your options open? Great. But if you're extending him now you're likely signing yourself up for way too much decline at too heavy a price, and Rizzo's recent health and performance doesn't paint a picture of productivity you must keep at all costs. He's the anti-Javy in terms of how easy it is to find his recent level of production.

Is there any semi-realistic low-price/short-duration extension for Rizzo that wouldn't make you (and I) blanch? What are the numbers?

 

I'd say it's more about the years, and going beyond 2 years would make me pretty uneasy. If we assume we're limiting the length of the guarantee I'm a little more open minded. Yes there will likely be more efficient ways to spend the money, but that's more marginal and I can appreciate there's upside and more than just production at play. Let's say more than 2/30 and I think we're in for a bad time.

 

The part that makes me the most nervous is that a pre-FA extension could potentially be at the opposite end of the spectrum. Maybe I'm worrying too much, Rizzo's valued certainty over max dollars before and his agent should probably be able to foresee a less than frenzied market for him in the offseason. Plus if you bank some of the spending now you can probably consolidate the money better(e.g. Rizzo+Baez now and 2 FAs is a lot more practically feasible than signing 4 FAs when the whole world can bid on them), but I still worry about 30+ first baseman signing deals of significance.

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