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I tend to side with TT here, especially since there's a non-zero chance that CJ or Pierce are ready to contribute to the big club and be emergency options at worst some time in June/July if they stay healthy.

 

I can't imagine a scenario where CJ contributes as a starter next season.

 

cj is going to be the guy who comes up as a reliever in late august and thrashes everyone in september and october

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Well assuring a spot to Hendricks is one of my main issues then. If we're taking Hammels for simplicity I'll cut Wood and or Turner for him.

 

 

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What has he done or not done in his entire pitching history that makes you think he doesn't deserve it? He's shown the ability to do what he's doing now at every level. He's more than likely not going to have a low 2s ERA like he does now for the season next year, but to expect a low to mid 3s seems reasonable to me. His FIP this year is 3.22 and his K/9 could easily tick up a bit since he's at 5.2 this year and was 7.7 as a whole in the minors, including 8.2 at Iowa this year.

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Yeah. The idea of not assuring Hendricks a rotation spot next year is absurd to me.
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Yeah. The idea of not assuring Hendricks a rotation spot next year is absurd to me.

 

Even if you aren't a big fan of him, he's #2(!!) on our depth chart right now.

But projection wise he's really just Dubrount/Strailey.

 

 

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Yeah. The idea of not assuring Hendricks a rotation spot next year is absurd to me.

 

Even if you aren't a big fan of him, he's #2(!!) on our depth chart right now.

But projection wise he's really just Dubrount/Strailey.

 

 

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When you have a collection of non-amazing guys, the guy who has actually had the results get to stand at the front of the line.

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Those projections can kiss my asphalt!

 

ETA: Straily sucks

 

Pretty much. Some guys are Jackson. Some guys are much better than their peripherals suggest. Hendricks is that.

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Yeah. The idea of not assuring Hendricks a rotation spot next year is absurd to me.

 

Even if you aren't a big fan of him, he's #2(!!) on our depth chart right now.

But projection wise he's really just Dubrount/Strailey.

 

 

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Would you say the same thing if his FB averaged 92 instead of 90?

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Yeah. The idea of not assuring Hendricks a rotation spot next year is absurd to me.

 

Even if you aren't a big fan of him, he's #2(!!) on our depth chart right now.

But projection wise he's really just Dubrount/Strailey.

 

 

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Would you say the same thing if his FB averaged 92 instead of 90?

Difficult hypothetical as his projection would look better probably. I'll go with yes though.

 

 

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Yeah. The idea of not assuring Hendricks a rotation spot next year is absurd to me.

 

Even if you aren't a big fan of him, he's #2(!!) on our depth chart right now.

But projection wise he's really just Dubrount/Strailey.

 

 

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Would you say the same thing if his FB averaged 92 instead of 90?

 

Two mph more on a FB for a pitcher is pretty significant and should change opinions on a pitcher. Whatever your opinion is of Hendricks, if he could throw harder than he currently can, he would project to be a better pitcher.

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Would be interested in seeing everyone's opinions on this question, I think the answer helps to give some clarity on what to spend on this offseason.

 

Which of the following do you think is *most* likely to happen?

 

- Baez is roughly league average (or better) at 2B next season

 

- The best 2 of Wood, Turner, Doubront, and Straily combine for ~5 fWAR next year(maybe a bit less)

 

- Schwarber is able to contribute a significant number of games as a MLB catcher in 2016

 

 

There's a couple more decisions that could make a significant difference(Bryant's position and Russell's ETA in particular), but those 3 above seem to have the most immediate impact.

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3-1-2 is probably the order I'd put those in as far as the likelihood of them happening.

 

schwarber as an MLB C first? wow

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Would be interested in seeing everyone's opinions on this question, I think the answer helps to give some clarity on what to spend on this offseason.

 

Which of the following do you think is *most* likely to happen?

 

- Baez is roughly league average (or better) at 2B next season

 

- The best 2 of Wood, Turner, Doubront, and Straily combine for ~5 fWAR next year(maybe a bit less)

 

- Schwarber is able to contribute a significant number of games as a MLB catcher in 2016

 

 

There's a couple more decisions that could make a significant difference(Bryant's position and Russell's ETA in particular), but those 3 above seem to have the most immediate impact.

 

 

1, followed by 2 closely, followed by 3 fairly far back.

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Would be interested in seeing everyone's opinions on this question, I think the answer helps to give some clarity on what to spend on this offseason.

 

Which of the following do you think is *most* likely to happen?

 

- Baez is roughly league average (or better) at 2B next season

 

- The best 2 of Wood, Turner, Doubront, and Straily combine for ~5 fWAR next year(maybe a bit less)

 

- Schwarber is able to contribute a significant number of games as a MLB catcher in 2016

 

 

There's a couple more decisions that could make a significant difference(Bryant's position and Russell's ETA in particular), but those 3 above seem to have the most immediate impact.

 

I'm going to go 1-2-3, but I don't think any of them are extremely UNlikely. I don't have much faith in 2 of those pitchers to each put up 2.5 WAR (or 1 to put up like 3.5-4 WAR). I probably have too much faith in Javy, but are we talking average MLB player or average 2B production? And #3 is really interesting. I think if Schwarber is going to be an MLB catcher, he's going to have to be that to start a season. I don't know that he can possibly do enough to come up midseason and take over at C. It's not like you are waiting for his bat to develop. He can probably hit in the majors by late 2015. If he can't catch in the majors by early 2016, he won't be catching in the majors mid-2016, IMO.

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Would be interested in seeing everyone's opinions on this question, I think the answer helps to give some clarity on what to spend on this offseason.

 

Which of the following do you think is *most* likely to happen?

 

- Baez is roughly league average (or better) at 2B next season

 

- The best 2 of Wood, Turner, Doubront, and Straily combine for ~5 fWAR next year(maybe a bit less)

 

- Schwarber is able to contribute a significant number of games as a MLB catcher in 2016

 

 

There's a couple more decisions that could make a significant difference(Bryant's position and Russell's ETA in particular), but those 3 above seem to have the most immediate impact.

 

I'm going to go 1-2-3, but I don't think any of them are extremely UNlikely. I don't have much faith in 2 of those pitchers to each put up 2.5 WAR (or 1 to put up like 3.5-4 WAR). I probably have too much faith in Javy, but are we talking average MLB player or average 2B production? And #3 is really interesting. I think if Schwarber is going to be an MLB catcher, he's going to have to be that to start a season. I don't know that he can possibly do enough to come up midseason and take over at C. It's not like you are waiting for his bat to develop. He can probably hit in the majors by late 2015. If he can't catch in the majors by early 2016, he won't be catching in the majors mid-2016, IMO.

 

If he's a 2B, that's the same thing.

 

If someone says average player, to me that = 2 WAR (preferably more out of offense than defense just due to volatility but yeah) player

 

I guess I get that someone could mean average slash line, but I don't think that's a particularly meaningful thing to look at ever without a positional adjustment.

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3-1-2 is probably the order I'd put those in as far as the likelihood of them happening.

 

Did Tim pay you to say that as some sort of subtle advertising?

 

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