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Will you be cheering when Sammy hits #600?

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he's the greatest Cub player i've watched in my lifetime. i'm definitely pulling for him, but i hope it doesn't cost the Cubs a game. most of my friends are rooting against him tho.

 

honestly, it surprises me a little that so many Cubs fans dislike him so much after what he did for this team. why let a stupid mistake at the end of his time there ruin everything? oh well.

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I would love to be able to cheer for Sosa, but I can't help but wonder how many of those homeruns he would not have been able to hit without juicing. I just can't admire someone who cheated to achieve his success, as I believe he did. I loved Sosa from 1998 to 2004 like everyone else, but I can't cheer for him anymore than I can cheer for Bonds.

 

think what you will, but sammy sosa does not display the traditional characteristics of steroid use, among other things.

 

A picture says a 1,000 words. Have you compared any current pictures of the Texas slimmed-down Sammy (see pg. 110 of today's Sun-times) with the Incredible Hulk Sammy that played with the Cubs in the late 90's? Don't people usually get heavier as they get older?

 

If the size loss is totally due to diet then Sammy should be the new spokesperson for Weight Watchers.

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honestly, it surprises me a little that so many Cubs fans dislike him so much after what he did for this team. why let a stupid mistake at the end of his time there ruin everything? oh well.

 

Do you mean leaving the game early? To be fair, that's hardly the only reason people have issues with Sammy. I grew up watching the guy be the only reason to be a Cubs fan and I want to see him hit #600, but I also recognize that he was very much a "flawed hero" that has legitimate criticism that can be leveled at him, steroids or not.

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I would love to be able to cheer for Sosa, but I can't help but wonder how many of those homeruns he would not have been able to hit without juicing. I just can't admire someone who cheated to achieve his success, as I believe he did. I loved Sosa from 1998 to 2004 like everyone else, but I can't cheer for him anymore than I can cheer for Bonds.

 

think what you will, but sammy sosa does not display the traditional characteristics of steroid use, among other things.

 

A picture says a 1,000 words. Have you compared any current pictures of the Texas slimmed-down Sammy (see pg. 110 of today's Sun-times) with the Incredible Hulk Sammy that played with the Cubs in the late 90's? Don't people usually get heavier as they get older?

 

If the size loss is totally due to diet then Sammy should be the new spokesperson for Weight Watchers.

 

People are supposed to get more muscular as they get older?

 

It's absurd to accuse a player of steroid use based solely on the difference between how they looked when they debuted to how they looked in the prime.

 

It's doubly absurd to do it in the current era where there is an abundance of legal supplements and state of the art weight training at an athlete's disposal.

 

It's downright bat(stuff) crazy to do it to a guy who grew up in the Dominican Republic and was clearly undersized when he started out.

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I would love to be able to cheer for Sosa, but I can't help but wonder how many of those homeruns he would not have been able to hit without juicing. I just can't admire someone who cheated to achieve his success, as I believe he did. I loved Sosa from 1998 to 2004 like everyone else, but I can't cheer for him anymore than I can cheer for Bonds.

 

think what you will, but sammy sosa does not display the traditional characteristics of steroid use, among other things.

 

A picture says a 1,000 words. Have you compared any current pictures of the Texas slimmed-down Sammy (see pg. 110 of today's Sun-times) with the Incredible Hulk Sammy that played with the Cubs in the late 90's? Don't people usually get heavier as they get older?

 

If the size loss is totally due to diet then Sammy should be the new spokesperson for Weight Watchers.

 

People are supposed to get more muscular as they get older?

 

It's absurd to accuse a player of steroid use based solely on the difference between how they looked when they debuted to how they looked in the prime.

 

It's doubly absurd to do it in the current era where there is an abundance of legal supplements and state of the art weight training at an athlete's disposal.

 

It's downright bat(stuff) crazy to do it to a guy who grew up in the Dominican Republic and was clearly undersized when he started out.

 

Talk about taking my words out of context.

 

I never said people get more muscular as they get older. I said they usually get "heavier" which is true.

 

I was comparing the skinny 2007 Sammy to the bulky late 90's Sammy - not to when he "debuted."

 

If Sammy was currently taking legal supplements and utilizing state of the art weight training as you imply he is, wouldn't he be getting bigger and not smaller?

 

You are correct, Sammy started out small, got very big and now is small again - I wonder why?

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If Sammy was currently taking legal supplements and utilizing state of the art weight training as you imply he is, wouldn't he be getting bigger and not smaller?

 

You are correct, Sammy started out small, got very big and now is small again - I wonder why?

 

He wouldn't necessarily be getting bigger. As he got older the bulk probably slowed him down.

 

He's not small again.

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If Sammy makes it in the hall, he will go in as a Cub. Will I root for him getting 600 against us? No. Will I root for him if he gets it against another team? Probably.
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If Sammy was currently taking legal supplements and utilizing state of the art weight training as you imply he is, wouldn't he be getting bigger and not smaller?

 

You are correct, Sammy started out small, got very big and now is small again - I wonder why?

 

He wouldn't necessarily be getting bigger. As he got older the bulk probably slowed him down.

 

He's not small again.

 

Sammy is much smaller now than he was is 1998.

 

Can one of you high tech guys post today's current picture from the Suntimes (pg 110) and one from 1998 so we can all judge for our selves?

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Congrats to Sosa, he has done more good than harm for the Cubs during his tenure.

I agree. I really enjoyed the clips of Sammy on the pregame show. It brought back a lot of fun memories.

 

Congrats to Sammy.

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