11/19 College Football

[UK1679666180]

My apologies to the poultry fans hoping for a UK upset over UGA.

[Jon]

Not all that pretty, but Baz really saved the game with his running game. Sutton collected 200+ yards, yet the defense was horrendous (especially the secondary, so thank you, Deante Battle, for being suspended this week due to academics). But it was a decent enough win that'll do the job.

 

I didn't want Iowa to win, but they destroyed Minnesota enough to easily put NU ahead of the Gophers come bowl time. And thank you, Ohio State, but only if you get the BCS at-large bowl bid.

 

5-3 in the Big Ten and tied for 3rd. Not a bad season. Had its ups and downs, but I didn't expect nearly this kind of success, especially after the loss to Penn State. Looks like they'll either play an at-large team in the Music City bowl b/c the SEC only has 6 bowl-eligible teams or, more likely, a Pac-10 team in El Paso at the Sun Bowl. Can't wait!

 

By the way, Miami's uniforms were the ugliest thing I've seen today until I saw the Miami cheerleader uniforms and then the Miami band uniforms. Yikes.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

West Coast rivalry games:

 

The Civil War: Oregon up 28-7 on OSU in a ridiculously foggy Eugene at the half. OSU's Matt Moore was benched.

The Big Game: Cal up 6-3 on Stanford at the half in Stanford. Cal's Joe Ayoob was benched.

[Derwood]

Why is every single USC game (minus ND) at night? I swear their games never start before 10:15pm ET.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

LSU with a safety and a TD and lead Ole Miss 9-0!

 

Geaux Tigers!

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Why is every single USC game (minus ND) at night? I swear their games never start before 10:15pm ET.

 

Because it can be hot in LA during the day, because both UCLA and USC will draw more fans for night games.

 

And thank goodness USC plays night games, I often go by the 110 and 10 in downtown during Saturday afternoons and don't want to deal with the traffic that games at the Coliseum create.

[adamb0719]

Just got back from the ND game. Quinn broke ND's all time records for passing yards, and pass completions. Also first ND QB to go over 3k yards. Really upset I missed the UM/OSU game. Was it as good as the scoring updates sounded. Also sucks that Tenn. lost to Vanderbilt. Anyway looks like ND is Tempe bound, barring any major setbacks against Stanford. However if ND comes out like they did today they will not win come January.

 

Also pretty awesome that Mooney(sp?) got a completion to O'Hare.

 

Congrats to Penn State. :D

[CaliforniaRaisin]

It's so foggy in Eugene that I watched Jonathan Stewart take the opening kickoff all the way for Oregon and didn't have known what was going on until the camera really zoomed in (when Stewart was 20 yards out).

[SouthSideRyan]

 

Also pretty awesome that Mooney(sp?) got a completion to O'Hare.

 

 

That was the most Irish completion in NCAA history.

[adamb0719]

 

Also pretty awesome that Mooney(sp?) got a completion to O'Hare.

 

 

That was the most Irish completion in NCAA history.

 

Did you leave a word out or am I missing something?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

 

Also pretty awesome that Mooney(sp?) got a completion to O'Hare.

 

 

That was the most Irish completion in NCAA history.

 

Did you leave a word out or am I missing something?

 

Heritage.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

 

Also pretty awesome that Mooney(sp?) got a completion to O'Hare.

 

 

That was the most Irish completion in NCAA history.

 

Haha, awesome.

[adamb0719]

 

Also pretty awesome that Mooney(sp?) got a completion to O'Hare.

 

 

That was the most Irish completion in NCAA history.

 

Did you leave a word out or am I missing something?

 

Heritage.

 

AHHH, sorry went right over my head. :oops:

[adamb0719]

 

In summary, you could end up with at least:

 

USC

Texas

PSU

ACC Champ (1-loss)

SEC Champ (at least 1-loss)

Big East Champ

Oregon

ACC runner up (2-loss)

Va Tech (if they tie with Miami, they miss the conference title game against FSU)

SEC runner up (at least 2-loss....Bama, Georgia, LSU, Auburn?)

OSU (9-2)

ND (9-2)

 

Is this the reason that they are adding another BCS game next year. The fact that a team has to be in the top 12, but they only pick 8 teams means someone will always be screwed.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Miami up 10-7 on Georgia Tech at the half, they were losing 7-3 before scoring late in the 2nd quarter.

[Andy]

In my biased opinion, the Michigan State team that beat ND was much much MUCH better than the team that lost 6 of their last 7. The problem with us scheduling MSU in September is they are always much better in that month than any other. I also find it hard to fault ND for its weak schedule when they have absolutely blown out the opponent in every one of its wins except for Michigan at the Big House, where it's pretty much impossible to dominate the Wolverines.

 

Yes, Va Tech, Oregon and UCLA are very good teams, but Oregon lost their QB (I know it's not their fault, but they're just not as good a team without Clemens), UCLA has hit the crapper in the last month even though they have only one loss to show for it, and Va Tech had their chance to prove themselves, and got crushed by Miami at home. ND has improved throughout the season whereas these three teams have regressed.

 

On another note, Miami has busted out those awful orange one-sleeve jerseys. When will someone tell these teams that those jerseys are AWFUL?

[shnsajax]

 

In summary, you could end up with at least:

 

USC

Texas

PSU

ACC Champ (1-loss)

SEC Champ (at least 1-loss)

Big East Champ

Oregon

ACC runner up (2-loss)

Va Tech (if they tie with Miami, they miss the conference title game against FSU)

SEC runner up (at least 2-loss....Bama, Georgia, LSU, Auburn?)

OSU (9-2)

ND (9-2)

 

Is this the reason that they are adding another BCS game next year. The fact that a team has to be in the top 12, but they only pick 8 teams means someone will always be screwed.

 

Whats the point of having a BCS system (yet another reason)if we are going to override the rankings in favor of politics to put ND in a BCS bowl and leave out either either O$U or VT. Both will finish the season ahead of ND in the BCS, have the same record or better in both cases but yet we leave it up to a board committee that will ignore the poll. I'm not saying ND is less deserving than either school, but with the amount of money that is thrown around someone is going to get screwed.

 

they need to eliminate at-large bids all together or use the poll they created to decide exactly who goes. After all they use it to decide who goes to the NC.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

LSU now up 23-0 on Ole Miss.

 

Geuax Tigers!

[Derwood]

In my biased opinion, the Michigan State team that beat ND was much much MUCH better than the team that lost 6 of their last 7. The problem with us scheduling MSU in September is they are always much better in that month than any other. I also find it hard to fault ND for its weak schedule when they have absolutely blown out the opponent in every one of its wins except for Michigan at the Big House, where it's pretty much impossible to dominate the Wolverines.

 

Yes, Va Tech, Oregon and UCLA are very good teams, but Oregon lost their QB (I know it's not their fault, but they're just not as good a team without Clemens), UCLA has hit the crapper in the last month even though they have only one loss to show for it, and Va Tech had their chance to prove themselves, and got crushed by Miami at home. ND has improved throughout the season whereas these three teams have regressed.

 

 

Unfortunately for fans of Oregon, VT, etc., the bowl comittees are as biased as you are. I think if it comes down to one 2-loss team getting an at-large, you can't argue ND over OSU. Ohio State lost at home to a potentially 12-0 team, and on the road to a 10-1 team.

 

Similar debate can be made with PSU and Miami. Which loss was worse, Miami losing to FSU, or Penn State to Michigan? Tough call.

 

I think the worst thing that could happen to ND is for no more 0 or 1-loss teams to lose, because they wouldn't have a team fall behind them for "losing late".

 

You may still get your dream of a ND vs. OSU matchup, it just may not be in a BCS game ;)

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Yes, Va Tech, Oregon and UCLA are very good teams, but Oregon lost their QB (I know it's not their fault, but they're just not as good a team without Clemens)...

 

Of course Dennis Dixon's ability to scramble makes him a much different QB to guard than Kellen Clemens. I think Oregon will be fine now that Dixon has had some playing time, he's come a long way the past few weeks and is great throwing and running now. The Dixon-ledoffense is responsible for 35 of the points thus far tonight. Oregon still has the playmakers: Whitehead, Stewart, Williams, Finley, Colvin and Dixon at QB.

 

...UCLA has hit the crapper in the last month even though they have only one loss to show for it...

 

Outside of the Arizona game, they really haven't played any worse than they had at any other point this year. UCLA is going to beat you with a great offense that rarely turns the ball over and a defense that's putrid against the run that hopes for a big play late in the game.

Edited November 20, 2005 by CaliforniaRaisin

[Andy]

When they say that football is a game of inches, they are truly right. If Asaph Schwapp does not fumble the football at the goal line against MSU (or if the refs blow the play dead, as they should have, although still no excuse for Asaph), then ND probably wins that game, and we're not having this argument, as a 10-1 ND team with the only loss being the USC game would be a shoo-in.

 

If Carr doesn't get the 2 seconds added on, PSU's probably unbeaten and beating down the door for a Rose Bowl berth.

 

If Bush doesn't push Leinart, Texas is the only unbeaten and we have an absolute mess. (And probably a Texas/ND title game)

 

If Miami's FG holder does not flub a snap, then the Canes are unbeaten and also beating down the door for a Rose Bowl berth.

 

It's kind of amazing if you think about it.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

If Bush doesn't push Leinart, Texas is the only unbeaten and we have an absolute mess. (And probably a Texas/ND title game)

 

You have got to be kidding me.

[Andy]

If Bush doesn't push Leinart, Texas is the only unbeaten and we have an absolute mess. (And probably a Texas/ND title game)

 

You have got to be kidding me.

....confused...

 

Do you really not think poll bias plus the fact that ND would have ended The Streak would have pushed them into the title game?

[CaliforniaRaisin]

If Bush doesn't push Leinart, Texas is the only unbeaten and we have an absolute mess. (And probably a Texas/ND title game)

 

You have got to be kidding me.

....confused...

 

Do you really not think poll bias plus the fact that ND would have ended The Streak would have pushed them into the title game?

 

Reggie Bush had no influence on that play, Leinart would have scored anyways. That's what I was talking about.

[Andy]

If Bush doesn't push Leinart, Texas is the only unbeaten and we have an absolute mess. (And probably a Texas/ND title game)

 

You have got to be kidding me.

....confused...

 

Do you really not think poll bias plus the fact that ND would have ended The Streak would have pushed them into the title game?

 

Reggie Bush had no influence on that play, Leinart would have scored anyways. That's what I was talking about.

I don't agree but I won't get into it because the point is that he scored and how he got there really doesn't mean anything at this point.