11/19 College Football

[CuseCubFan69]

 

your potential ACC champ and Orange Bowl rep is not even in the top 25. sweet

 

Awesome huh? If FSU wins the ACC some team is going to get really screwed out of a spot they deserve. Didn't FSU go to a BCS game a few years ago with a 7-4 record?

 

Question: Does every team have the same requirements as ND? The reason I ask is because if scUM beats O$U, they could very well be in the BCS top twelve with 8 wins, not the 9 required for ND.

 

This is why these playoff games bother me. The Big East has all these rules that they have to abide by but the other 5 don't to play in the BCS games. Florida St. can lose to Florida and still go to a BCS game while West Virginia could get booted if they don't finish in the top 12 even if they only have one loss.

[Andy]

 

your potential ACC champ and Orange Bowl rep is not even in the top 25. sweet

 

Awesome huh? If FSU wins the ACC some team is going to get really screwed out of a spot they deserve. Didn't FSU go to a BCS game a few years ago with a 7-4 record?

 

Question: Does every team have the same requirements as ND? The reason I ask is because if scUM beats O$U, they could very well be in the BCS top twelve with 8 wins, not the 9 required for ND.

I believe that all BCS conference teams have the same requirements for an at-large bid as ND. I could be (and probably am) wrong about that, though.

[CubinNY]

 

your potential ACC champ and Orange Bowl rep is not even in the top 25. sweet

 

Awesome huh? If FSU wins the ACC some team is going to get really screwed out of a spot they deserve. Didn't FSU go to a BCS game a few years ago with a 7-4 record?

 

Question: Does every team have the same requirements as ND? The reason I ask is because if scUM beats O$U, they could very well be in the BCS top twelve with 8 wins, not the 9 required for ND.

 

That's why ND should be in a conference. But ND is too "special" to be in a conference.

 

Wha! everybody picks on ND. Wha! it's not fair. Poor old golden domers. always getting screwed out of everything.

[CubinNY]

It's rivalry week:

 

Purdue at Indiana

Utah at BYU

Oregon State at #10 Oregon

#8 Alabama at #11 Auburn

Washington State at Washington

 

It is rivalry week? Who is ND playing?

 

Oh, Cuse. I don't think it is rivalry week then. ND and their fans determines who are rivals. Of course, if they determine that Cuse is a rival then, rivalry week is back on.

 

Holy bitter.

 

My hate for all things Golden Domeish knows no bounds.

Edited November 14, 2005 by CubinNY

[Andy]

It used to be a pretty big one....or at least a controversal one. We had ND beat in the 50 or 60's and the officials called a mysterious roughing the kicker call on one of our guys after a ND missed kick. They rekicked and made it and we lost. Add to that 2 undeserving ND Players that won Heismans over more deserving Syracuse players and maybe they would have had one.

 

We're going in the right direction but it'll be awhile. After Pasqualoni recruited gems that would have otherwise went to football powers Northeastern or Hofstra we have a very empty cupboard. Oh yeah, we have a guy that was a second string QB in CANADA that he gave a scholarship to.

 

At least we crushed ND a couple of years ago.

Cuse, what was the other "undeserving" ND Heisman winner? I know Hornung screwed over Jim Brown thanks to the racial climate of the times in 1956, but I wasn't aware of a second case.

[adamb0719]

 

your potential ACC champ and Orange Bowl rep is not even in the top 25. sweet

 

Awesome huh? If FSU wins the ACC some team is going to get really screwed out of a spot they deserve. Didn't FSU go to a BCS game a few years ago with a 7-4 record?

 

Question: Does every team have the same requirements as ND? The reason I ask is because if scUM beats O$U, they could very well be in the BCS top twelve with 8 wins, not the 9 required for ND.

 

This is why these playoff games bother me. The Big East has all these rules that they have to abide by but the other 5 don't to play in the BCS games. Florida St. can lose to Florida and still go to a BCS game while West Virginia could get booted if they don't finish in the top 12 even if they only have one loss.

 

I agree with your point. But the year that FSU went when they were 7-4 there was no ACC playoff. This is the first year for that.

I think I just got confused. Isn't every BCS conference champion guarenteed (sp?) a BCS game, or does the BCS pick who goes out of the Conference champs and the at-larges? I always thought FSU went every year because they won the ACC. And didn't Miami always get in because the won the Big East? I thought the Big East champ was guarenteed a spot. I don't think it possible for WVU to not go if they win out.

[Derwood]

 

your potential ACC champ and Orange Bowl rep is not even in the top 25. sweet

 

Awesome huh? If FSU wins the ACC some team is going to get really screwed out of a spot they deserve. Didn't FSU go to a BCS game a few years ago with a 7-4 record?

 

Question: Does every team have the same requirements as ND? The reason I ask is because if scUM beats O$U, they could very well be in the BCS top twelve with 8 wins, not the 9 required for ND.

 

I'm guessing 9 wins is not a requirement for conference teams, but I may be wrong. If Penn State loses and Michigan beats O$U, Michigan would be in at 8-3. FSU would be in at either 9-3 (if they beat Florida and Miami/Va Tech) or 8-4 (if they lose to Florida but win the ACC title).

 

South Florida could also be in with 3 losses if they win out.

[treebird]

i heard a rumor that illinois' tim brasic intends to break the 75 yard barrier this week

 

everyone should tune in to find out if he can do it

 

 

(jk, dont bother watching, he can't do it)

[adamb0719]

 

your potential ACC champ and Orange Bowl rep is not even in the top 25. sweet

 

Awesome huh? If FSU wins the ACC some team is going to get really screwed out of a spot they deserve. Didn't FSU go to a BCS game a few years ago with a 7-4 record?

 

Question: Does every team have the same requirements as ND? The reason I ask is because if scUM beats O$U, they could very well be in the BCS top twelve with 8 wins, not the 9 required for ND.

 

I'm guessing 9 wins is not a requirement for conference teams, but I may be wrong. If Penn State loses and Michigan beats O$U, Michigan would be in at 8-3. FSU would be in at either 9-3 (if they beat Florida and Miami/Va Tech) or 8-4 (if they lose to Florida but win the ACC title).

 

South Florida could also be in with 3 losses if they win out.

 

But the scenerio I wondered about was what if Penn State wins, and scUM wins out. Penn State is in, but Is scUM eligible for a BCS game?

[Andy]

All six BCS conference's champions get automatic bids no matter where they are in the BCS. (See 2004 Pitt Panthers)

 

I don't know what the requirements are an at-large berth for BCS teams.

[adamb0719]

It's rivalry week:

 

Purdue at Indiana

Utah at BYU

Oregon State at #10 Oregon

#8 Alabama at #11 Auburn

Washington State at Washington

 

It is rivalry week? Who is ND playing?

 

Oh, Cuse. I don't think it is rivalry week then. ND and their fans determines who are rivals. Of course, if they determine that Cuse is a rival then, rivalry week is back on.

 

Holy bitter.

 

My hate for all things Golden Domeish knows no bounds.

 

May I ask why, without starting a huge debate? You state your reasons, I promise not to argue them, no matter how outlandish they are :wink:

[adamb0719]

All six BCS conference's champions get automatic bids no matter where they are in the BCS. (See 2004 Pitt Panthers)

 

I don't know what the requirements are an at-large berth for BCS teams.

 

So a 1 loss WVU is in. However if they lose to South Florida they are out, even though they have a better all around record then SF, in the same conference?

[Derwood]

All six BCS conference's champions get automatic bids no matter where they are in the BCS. (See 2004 Pitt Panthers)

 

I don't know what the requirements are an at-large berth for BCS teams.

 

Maybe it's 9 wins and top 12 in BCS for at large bids, and since ND has to be at-large, that's why it's a higher win total for them every year.

 

Now if Miami, LSU and/or Texas somehow lose their conference title games, the BCS is going to have a huge mess on it's hands

[CuseCubFan69]

 

your potential ACC champ and Orange Bowl rep is not even in the top 25. sweet

 

Awesome huh? If FSU wins the ACC some team is going to get really screwed out of a spot they deserve. Didn't FSU go to a BCS game a few years ago with a 7-4 record?

 

Question: Does every team have the same requirements as ND? The reason I ask is because if scUM beats O$U, they could very well be in the BCS top twelve with 8 wins, not the 9 required for ND.

 

This is why these playoff games bother me. The Big East has all these rules that they have to abide by but the other 5 don't to play in the BCS games. Florida St. can lose to Florida and still go to a BCS game while West Virginia could get booted if they don't finish in the top 12 even if they only have one loss.

 

I agree with your point. But the year that FSU went when they were 7-4 there was no ACC playoff. This is the first year for that.

I think I just got confused. Isn't every BCS conference champion guarenteed (sp?) a BCS game, or does the BCS pick who goes out of the Conference champs and the at-larges? I always thought FSU went every year because they won the ACC. And didn't Miami always get in because the won the Big East? I thought the Big East champ was guarenteed a spot. I don't think it possible for WVU to not go if they win out.

 

I thought they changed it this year because of Pitt getting in last year but I may be wrong.

[Derwood]

 

your potential ACC champ and Orange Bowl rep is not even in the top 25. sweet

 

Awesome huh? If FSU wins the ACC some team is going to get really screwed out of a spot they deserve. Didn't FSU go to a BCS game a few years ago with a 7-4 record?

 

Question: Does every team have the same requirements as ND? The reason I ask is because if scUM beats O$U, they could very well be in the BCS top twelve with 8 wins, not the 9 required for ND.

 

I'm guessing 9 wins is not a requirement for conference teams, but I may be wrong. If Penn State loses and Michigan beats O$U, Michigan would be in at 8-3. FSU would be in at either 9-3 (if they beat Florida and Miami/Va Tech) or 8-4 (if they lose to Florida but win the ACC title).

 

South Florida could also be in with 3 losses if they win out.

 

But the scenerio I wondered about was what if Penn State wins, and scUM wins out. Penn State is in, but Is scUM eligible for a BCS game?

 

No, probably not, as they wouldn't be anywhere near the top 12 in the BCS rankings.

[Derwood]

All six BCS conference's champions get automatic bids no matter where they are in the BCS. (See 2004 Pitt Panthers)

 

I don't know what the requirements are an at-large berth for BCS teams.

 

So a 1 loss WVU is in. However if they lose to South Florida they are out, even though they have a better all around record then SF, in the same conference?

 

If they lose to South Florida and South Florida wins their other two games, yes, because conference record trumps overall record (unless you're at-large or independent)

[Andy]

All six BCS conference's champions get automatic bids no matter where they are in the BCS. (See 2004 Pitt Panthers)

 

I don't know what the requirements are an at-large berth for BCS teams.

 

So a 1 loss WVU is in. However if they lose to South Florida they are out, even though they have a better all around record then SF, in the same conference?

If USF won out, beating WV, then USF would be in because they'd be tied and the Bulls would have the tiebreaker.

[CuseCubFan69]

All six BCS conference's champions get automatic bids no matter where they are in the BCS. (See 2004 Pitt Panthers)

 

I don't know what the requirements are an at-large berth for BCS teams.

 

So a 1 loss WVU is in. However if they lose to South Florida they are out, even though they have a better all around record then SF, in the same conference?

 

If they are tied I think one tie breaker is the polls. If WV is 5 or more spots ahead in the polls they go.

[cubweiser03]

Ahhh yeah. This saturday of college football is the one i put on my calender. OSU vs Michigan. Not as interesting as say the last 5 years but still interesting nonetheless.

 

UM wins and PSU loses. Happiness and craziness, big ten champs again!

UM wins and PSU wins. Awesome, UM wins the big game and still goes to a better bowl than OSU. Congrats to PSU. We'll be too drunk and happy with the UM victory to spew venom at PSU.

UM loses and PSU loses-Nightmare scenario. OSU wins big ten. A mini riot will ensue at our party. A crappy day indeed.

Edited November 14, 2005 by cubweiser03

[adamb0719]

 

your potential ACC champ and Orange Bowl rep is not even in the top 25. sweet

 

Awesome huh? If FSU wins the ACC some team is going to get really screwed out of a spot they deserve. Didn't FSU go to a BCS game a few years ago with a 7-4 record?

 

Question: Does every team have the same requirements as ND? The reason I ask is because if scUM beats O$U, they could very well be in the BCS top twelve with 8 wins, not the 9 required for ND.

 

I'm guessing 9 wins is not a requirement for conference teams, but I may be wrong. If Penn State loses and Michigan beats O$U, Michigan would be in at 8-3. FSU would be in at either 9-3 (if they beat Florida and Miami/Va Tech) or 8-4 (if they lose to Florida but win the ACC title).

 

South Florida could also be in with 3 losses if they win out.

 

But the scenerio I wondered about was what if Penn State wins, and scUM wins out. Penn State is in, but Is scUM eligible for a BCS game?

 

No, probably not, as they wouldn't be anywhere near the top 12 in the BCS rankings.

 

But they could be in the top 12 in the BCS if they beat OSU. They are currently 15. Auburn and Bama play each other. USC and UCLA play each other. Plus there are still conference championship games. if scUM beats O$U they will more than likely jump TCU, leaving just two spots to overcome, which would be taken care of by the schedules of teams ahead of them. That was my original question, I may have just asked it funny. If scUM beats O$U they will more than likely be in the top twelve with 8 wins. Does that make them eligible?

[Derwood]

Ahhh yeah. This saturday of college football is the one i put on my calender. OSU vs Michigan. Not as interesting as say the last 5 years but still interesting nonetheless.

 

UM wins and PSU looses. Happiness and craziness, big ten champs again!

UM wins and PSU wins. Awesome, UM wins the big game and still goes to a better bowl than OSU. Congrats to PSU. We'll be too drunk and happy with the UM victory to spew venom at PSU.

UM looses and PSU looses-Nightmare scenario. OSU wins big ten. A mini riot will ensue at our party. A crappy day indeed.

 

I don't mind if Penn State looses as long as they don't lose.

[cubweiser03]

Big Ten, ACC, Big East, SEC, Pac 10, Big 12 are ALL guaranteed one spot regardless of rankings in the BCS. The bowl games however that need those 'at large spots' CANNOT pick a team that is outside the top 12. ND was at one time (not sure if thats true anymore) were guaranteed a spot if they were in the top 8 bcs rankings.

[adamb0719]

Big Ten, ACC, Big East, SEC, Pac 10, Big 12 are ALL guaranteed one spot regardless of rankings in the BCS. The bowl games however that need those 'at large spots' CANNOT pick a team that is outside the top 12. ND was at one time (not sure if thats true anymore) were guaranteed a spot if they were in the top 8 bcs rankings.

 

ND is guaranteed a spot if they are in the top 8, or if a non-BCS team is in the top 6, gets an at-large, and ND is in the top twelve with 9 or more wins.

[cubweiser03]

Ahhh yeah. This saturday of college football is the one i put on my calender. OSU vs Michigan. Not as interesting as say the last 5 years but still interesting nonetheless.

 

UM wins and PSU looses. Happiness and craziness, big ten champs again!

UM wins and PSU wins. Awesome, UM wins the big game and still goes to a better bowl than OSU. Congrats to PSU. We'll be too drunk and happy with the UM victory to spew venom at PSU.

UM looses and PSU looses-Nightmare scenario. OSU wins big ten. A mini riot will ensue at our party. A crappy day indeed.

 

I don't mind if Penn State looses as long as they don't lose.

 

Yeah what the hell, am i drunk already?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Big Ten, ACC, Big East, SEC, Pac 10, Big 12 are ALL guaranteed one spot regardless of rankings in the BCS. The bowl games however that need those 'at large spots' CANNOT pick a team that is outside the top 12. ND was at one time (not sure if thats true anymore) were guaranteed a spot if they were in the top 8 bcs rankings.

 

ND is guaranteed a spot if they are in the top 8, or if a non-BCS team is in the top 6, gets an at-large, and ND is in the top twelve with 9 or more wins.

 

So right now they aren't in a BCS bowl?