11/19 College Football

[CP_414]

Leinart is 12-19 for 84 yards? Fresno's defense must really be confusing him.

 

Yeah, but Reggie Bush has 9 carries for 118 yards, 1 reception for 12 yards, and 4 returns for 75 yards. He is unstoppable.

 

Let's get way way ahead of ourselves and assume a USC loss. I think they still have a better case than PSU for #2. The beat 2 top 10 teams (Oregon, Notre Dame), Penn State beat Ohio State. USC's only "loss" would be to a top 15 team. Penn State lost to 4 loss Michigan (even though it was controversial). I

[adamb0719]

Leinart is 12-19 for 84 yards? Fresno's defense must really be confusing him.

The worse Leinart plays the more likely his teammate Bush wins the Heisman. If he plays well Vince Young will win the Heisman thanks to the split ballot principle.

 

I can't get the game here (stupid comcast sports) but I just read on an ND board that FSU is using the same method as ND did- long, slow drives that eat the clock. Is it really like that? Sometimes that board is to ND biased, even for my taste, so it could be an exaggeration just to say some good things about the Irish-even in a game they are in no way involved in.

[Andy]

Speaking of Ohio State, that celebration call for diving into the end zone was a complete joke and helped give Michigan the ball at the 48 to start the next drive. They really need to get rid of that rule next year if the refs can't apply it correctly and fairly (which they obviously can't).

Joke calls going in favor of Michigan at the Big House? Really? :wink:

 

Happened six years ago to ND and Bobby Brown. Brown made a frat symbol in the end zone, it got flagged and UM leveraged that to the game winning TD drive.

 

Reggie Bush too, you shouldn't be flagged just for flipping into the end zone.

[Andy]

Leinart is 12-19 for 84 yards? Fresno's defense must really be confusing him.

The worse Leinart plays the more likely his teammate Bush wins the Heisman. If he plays well Vince Young will win the Heisman thanks to the split ballot principle.

 

I can't get the game here (stupid comcast sports) but I just read on an ND board that FSU is using the same method as ND did- long, slow drives that eat the clock. Is it really like that? Sometimes that board is to ND biased, even for my taste, so it could be an exaggeration just to say some good things about the Irish-even in a game they are in no way involved in.

There's no doubt the Dogs are using a ball-control offense. It is just one more based on short passes than on running. The one major error Weis has made this year IMO (besides the Schwapp play which he blamed on miscommunication from the sideline) was running the ball a few too many times rather than going with a short passing game. I doubt it would have made much difference, but I thought it was odd how much Charlie was running in that game.

[hawkeyecub]

Speaking of Ohio State, that celebration call for diving into the end zone was a complete joke and helped give Michigan the ball at the 48 to start the next drive. They really need to get rid of that rule next year if the refs can't apply it correctly and fairly (which they obviously can't).

 

Exactly. He just dove (no flip) and was somewhat in traffic so it was excusable. It should never have been called.

 

But NO ONE gets calls like Michigan.

[CP_414]

21-13 at the Half.

[adamb0719]

 

Happened six years ago to ND and Bobby Brown. Brown made a frat symbol in the end zone, it got flagged and UM leveraged that to the game winning TD drive.

 

 

 

 

One of the worst calls of that nature I have ever seen. I have probably seen the same thing 1000's of times, with no flag.

 

Lets never talk about that again, OK? :x

[CP_414]

Speaking of Ohio State, that celebration call for diving into the end zone was a complete joke and helped give Michigan the ball at the 48 to start the next drive. They really need to get rid of that rule next year if the refs can't apply it correctly and fairly (which they obviously can't).

 

Agreed. The worst example this season was Vandy at Florida. Vandy was set to go for 2 to try to beat UF in the last minute, but an absurd celebration call forced them to kick the PAT, and UF won in OT.

[Flames24Rulz]

21-13 with Fresno on top at halftime.

[adamb0719]

Wow, the gameday boys just went against everything I have heard, and said the Orange may pick OSU over PSU, leaving a PSU/ND Fiesta.

[Jon]

Speaking of Ohio State, that celebration call for diving into the end zone was a complete joke and helped give Michigan the ball at the 48 to start the next drive. They really need to get rid of that rule next year if the refs can't apply it correctly and fairly (which they obviously can't).

Joke calls going in favor of Michigan at the Big House? Really? :wink:

 

Happened six years ago to ND and Bobby Brown. Brown made a frat symbol in the end zone, it got flagged and UM leveraged that to the game winning TD drive.

 

Reggie Bush too, you shouldn't be flagged just for flipping into the end zone.

The other call was the backwards pass that somehow was incomplete instead of a fumble and loss of 3 or 4, although ABC never showed a replay.

 

Honestly, would it kill CBS to mention Northwestern winning their 7th game and tying for 3rd in the Big Ten instead of showing two minutes worth of interviews with Zook and Illinois players about how they went winless? Heck, they spent 30 more seconds talking about how some random pit crew guy colored his hair the color of the racing car (30 seconds more than they talked about Northwestern). Not surprised ESPN did the same, but a local station? Seems like the media was going crazy about Northwestern between the Michigan State win and the Michigan loss and there's been very little since (or before).

[CP_414]

Wow, the gameday boys just went against everything I have heard, and said the Orange may pick OSU over PSU, leaving a PSU/ND Fiesta.

 

There should be a rule against picking an at-large team before the conference champion from that same conference. Then again, there should be a playoff.

[adamb0719]

USC favored by 14 in the second half.

[Andy]

Wow, the gameday boys just went against everything I have heard, and said the Orange may pick OSU over PSU, leaving a PSU/ND Fiesta.

 

There should be a rule against picking an at-large team before the conference champion from that same conference. Then again, there should be a playoff.

That begs the question: What eight teams would play in a playoff now?

 

I'll assume a USC loss just for the sake of argument.

 

1 - Texas

2 - USC

3 - Penn St

4 - LSU

5 - Va Tech

6 - Ohio St

7 - ND

8 - Oregon

 

That's how it would appear to stack up were we to use the BCS standings. Can you imagine? A USC/ND rematch in the quarterfinals? PSU/OSU going at it again in the quarterfinals? A possible ND/PSU matchup in the semis? Texas/LSU?

 

WHY isn't there a playoff?

[CP_414]

Wow, the gameday boys just went against everything I have heard, and said the Orange may pick OSU over PSU, leaving a PSU/ND Fiesta.

 

There should be a rule against picking an at-large team before the conference champion from that same conference. Then again, there should be a playoff.

That begs the question: What eight teams would play in a playoff now?

 

I'll assume a USC loss just for the sake of argument.

 

1 - Texas

2 - USC

3 - Penn St

4 - LSU

5 - Va Tech

6 - Ohio St

7 - ND

8 - Oregon

 

That's how it would appear to stack up were we to use the BCS standings. Can you imagine? A USC/ND rematch in the quarterfinals? PSU/OSU going at it again in the quarterfinals? A possible ND/PSU matchup in the semis? Texas/LSU?

 

WHY isn't there a playoff?

 

It's really a shame that we can't see that. In this hypothetical playoff you would probably have to put one Big East team in, so W. Virginia replaces Oregon, otherwise I agree with your rankings.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

What about Fresno State getting an at-large? Their only loss is on the road to Oregon, and if they win out they'll have wins over 5 bowl eligible teams.

[Careless]

The other call was the backwards pass that somehow was incomplete instead of a fumble and loss of 3 or 4, although ABC never showed a replay.

that was ridiculous. the ref was standing right there, he clearly wasn't paying attention to that at all.

[Andy]

Fresno gets the ball first 2nd half...they're on their own 21 at the moment, 3rd and 7.

[Andy]

What about Fresno State getting an at-large? Their only loss is on the road to Oregon, and if they win out they'll have wins over 5 bowl eligible teams.

Unfortunately for them, unless a whole lot of teams lose in the next week or two there is no chance of that happening.

[Flames24Rulz]

Wow, the gameday boys just went against everything I have heard, and said the Orange may pick OSU over PSU, leaving a PSU/ND Fiesta.

 

There should be a rule against picking an at-large team before the conference champion from that same conference. Then again, there should be a playoff.

That begs the question: What eight teams would play in a playoff now?

 

I'll assume a USC loss just for the sake of argument.

 

1 - Texas

2 - USC

3 - Penn St

4 - LSU

5 - Va Tech

6 - Ohio St

7 - ND

8 - Oregon

 

That's how it would appear to stack up were we to use the BCS standings. Can you imagine? A USC/ND rematch in the quarterfinals? PSU/OSU going at it again in the quarterfinals? A possible ND/PSU matchup in the semis? Texas/LSU?

 

WHY isn't there a playoff?

 

its a shame there is no playoffs. Division I-AA has the playoffs and it ensures that there is one true champion. But thanks to all of the sponsors and everything, and the NCAA being too money hungry, we'll never see a playoff system in Division I-A.

[Andy]

Reggie Bush proves once again why he is, beyond the shadow of a doubt, the best player in college football...down to the one yard line.

[CP_414]

Bad start for Fresno. They were forced to punt quickly, and USC took over in Fresno territory. Let's see if they can withstand the upcoming USC run.

[CP_414]

Reggie Bush proves once again why he is, beyond the shadow of a doubt, the best player in college football...down to the one yard line.

 

10 carries 153 yards, and the 2nd half JUST started.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

What about Fresno State getting an at-large? Their only loss is on the road to Oregon, and if they win out they'll have wins over 5 bowl eligible teams.

Unfortunately for them, unless a whole lot of teams lose in the next week or two there is no chance of that happening.

 

It'll be interesting to see. They aren't getting much of anything from computer polls at the moment, and if they get to the top 10 in the AP and Coaches polls, they might be knocking on the door.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Wow, the gameday boys just went against everything I have heard, and said the Orange may pick OSU over PSU, leaving a PSU/ND Fiesta.

 

There should be a rule against picking an at-large team before the conference champion from that same conference. Then again, there should be a playoff.

That begs the question: What eight teams would play in a playoff now?

 

I'll assume a USC loss just for the sake of argument.

 

1 - Texas

2 - USC

3 - Penn St

4 - LSU

5 - Va Tech

6 - Ohio St

7 - ND

8 - Oregon

 

That's how it would appear to stack up were we to use the BCS standings. Can you imagine? A USC/ND rematch in the quarterfinals? PSU/OSU going at it again in the quarterfinals? A possible ND/PSU matchup in the semis? Texas/LSU?

 

WHY isn't there a playoff?

 

its a shame there is no playoffs. Division I-AA has the playoffs and it ensures that there is one true champion. But thanks to all of the sponsors and everything, and the NCAA being too money hungry, we'll never see a playoff system in Division I-A.

 

That's the thing I don't get. More games in the playoff should = more money. Surely having 3 extra games to make money makes up for the lost revenue of fans not knowing where the bowl game is a month in advance.