Cubs (Boyd) vs Brewers (Gasser): 09/07/26, 1:10 PM

[gflore34]

8 minutes ago, Rcal10 said:

Thank you. All that bitching and moaning about how good they are in situations is just BS. They do put the ball in play. I give them that. But so did Nico when he came up with 2nd and 3rd. Their batted ball found a hole, Nico’s didn’t. Simple as that. 

Exactly, they're not some supreme infallible baseball machine, their MO is not sustainable against quality competition.  The one thing I will harp on Nico for is not trying to go the other way, he does that and a run scores.

Edited Monday at 10:21 PM by gflore34

[Rcal10]

6 minutes ago, gflore34 said:

Exactly, they're not some supreme infallible baseball machine, their MO is not sustainable against quality competition.  The one thing I will harp on Nico for is not trying to go the other way, he does that and a run scores.

But can’t he get a hit through SS and 3rd base? Why does he have to go the other way. The infield is in. Couldn’t that ball have gone directly to the 1st or second baseman? Would that have made it a good AB? Sorry, I don’t agree. He hit the ball hard. Right to the 3rd baseman. 

[17 Seconds]

1 hour ago, gflore34 said:

Honestly, at this point, I really don't care.  Bull pen can't hold a lead of less than 4 runs, it's pretty hopeless.

I want them to make the playoffs just so pca's mvp season isn't always associated with something bad

[Derwood]

[gflore34]

You'd think, by the law of averages, someone could be effective for say, a week.  Don't that's possible.

[NorthsideAvenger]

Is every member of the bullpen allergic to clean innings/games?

I'm confident Cubs will make the playoffs. I'm also confident this board will have as many playoff wins as the Cubs. 

[Tryptamine]

People in the future are going to look at this team and wonder how the hell they had a 10+ fWAR PCA and barely snuck into the playoffs.

[gflore34]

6 minutes ago, NorthsideAvenger said:

Is every member of the bullpen allergic to clean innings/games?

I'm confident Cubs will make the playoffs. I'm also confident this board will have as many playoff wins as the Cubs. 

Everyone horsefeathers one of them are terrible, even the worst of teams have one effective guy.  If they or someone could manage one effective week the playoffs are done deal.

Edited Monday at 10:48 PM by gflore34

[Papa Cub]

I feel this right now too…….😑 I don’t say “wasted season”, but I understand this guy’s frustration. 

[ILMindState]

49 minutes ago, gflore34 said:

I know the bullpen is for horsefeathers but, I put this one on Craig.  After the lead off walk he should have pulled Boyd.  Zeferjahn may have not executed however, him facing, Ortiz, a crappy replacement level player is the right match up.  Most especially after Ortiz out together a good at bat vs. Boyd earlier.

Ortiz would have been pinch hit for a LH bat and Zeferjahn isn't good against lefties. It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. 

[gflore34]

10 minutes ago, ILMindState said:

Ortiz would have been pinch hit for a LH bat and Zeferjahn isn't good against lefties. It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. 

Still would have taken my chances, even against the fearsome Jake Bauers.

Edited Monday at 10:59 PM by gflore34

[ILMindState]

7 minutes ago, gflore34 said:

Still would have taken my chances, even against the fearsome Jake Bauers.

Ortiz is a reverse splits guy and has an 84 wRC+ against lefties. It wasn't a bad decision. Boyd just didn’t execute. 

[gflore34]

4 minutes ago, ILMindState said:

Ortiz is a reverse splits guy and has an 84 wRC+ against lefties. It wasn't a bad decision. Boyd just didn’t execute. 

In the end it's all a wash, had they managed to hold them to one run, the bullpen would have inevitably blown it.

Edited Monday at 11:06 PM by gflore34

[Soul]

I put this one on the RISP failures.  What do you want CC to do?  All the relievers suck and he knows it.  Boyd is gassing out, and he either rolls the dice with him or rolls the dice with the nightmare bullpen.  What’s the difference?  The horses just aren’t there.  
 

But you have runners on base, the big hits have to happen.  Just have to, or we will lose.

[ILMindState]

6 minutes ago, gflore34 said:

In the end it's all a wash, had they managed to hold them to one run, the bullpen would have inevitably blown it.

Yeah at the time I was pissed he didn't make the change but then understood why after the fact. A 1 run lead just isn't going to hold up with whatever options we do have. 

[Soul]

Know what else is starting to bum me out?  Sounds crazy I know.  But the PCA solo shots, because I know we need more runs than that.  How do we get base runners on ahead of him?  Hitting leadoff works against that, but Pete is the best leadoff hitter I’ve ever seen.

[Geographyhater8888]

12 minutes ago, Soul said:

Know what else is starting to bum me out?  Sounds crazy I know.  But the PCA solo shots, because I know we need more runs than that.  How do we get base runners on ahead of him?  Hitting leadoff works against that, but Pete is the best leadoff hitter I’ve ever seen.

Bat Bregman 8th and Suzuki 9th. He’ll get those run driving opportunities while staying at leadoff.

Option #2, leadoff Busch again? The platoon splits aren’t a problem for either this season. 

Edited Monday at 11:31 PM by Geographyhater8888

[gflore34]

7 minutes ago, Soul said:

Know what else is starting to bum me out?  Sounds crazy I know.  But the PCA solo shots, because I know we need more runs than that.  How do we get base runners on ahead of him?  Hitting leadoff works against that, but Pete is the best leadoff hitter I’ve ever seen.

Not dipshit Shaw approach today are base runners getting on ahead of PCA. That MF'er and his I'm going to swing at anything and everything really pissed me off, it's the same horsefeathers horsefeathers he did in the playoffs.

[PeanutPunch33]

As much as i’ve horsefeathers on Swanson in the past when he’s in his funks… Miss the hell out of that guy.  Lengthens the lineup and his defense is insane.  Need him back asap 

[Geographyhater8888]

Anything can happen in October and blah blah blah. A team with a near replacement level pitching staff and a bullpen without a single go-to relief pitcher has never won a World Series. Such a waste of an MVP season and what could end up as the best positional group in Cubs history.

Edited Tuesday at 07:39 AM by Geographyhater8888

[NorthsideAvenger]

Right now, I am simply enjoying PCA's season. 

[ILMindState]

38 minutes ago, Geographyhater8888 said:

Anything can happen in October and blah blah blah. A team with a near replacement level pitching staff and a bullpen without a single go to relief pitcher has never won a World Series. Such a waste of an MVP season and what could end up as the best positional group in Cubs history.

Replacement level would be an improvement 

 

[ILMindState]

16 minutes ago, NorthsideAvenger said:

Right now, I am simply enjoying PCA's season. 

In Cubs history, a 10+ fWAR season is more rare than a World Series so whatever happens this has been an amazing season to watch. 

[chibears55]

2 hours ago, Wilson A2000 said:

He took the Cubs job because he thought the Brewers couldn’t get over the hump. Maybe they never do, but I just don’t think Craig cares about the money when you continually get bested by your rival. He should have realized that the Cubs won’t spend what they need to overcome their poor farm system and development.  

They spent 241 mil, 7th in payroll, its not about spending but more of who they're spending it on, and the lack of production theyre getting for the money.

Hoyer just dont know how to spend on what important or quality players 

Comparison of Cubs and Brewers bullpen payroll 

 

 

Edited Tuesday at 12:17 AM by chibears55

[UMFan83]

51 minutes ago, Geographyhater8888 said:

Anything can happen in October and blah blah blah. A team with a near replacement level pitching staff and a bullpen without a single go to relief pitcher has never won a World Series. Such a waste of an MVP season and what could end up as the best positional group in Cubs history.

I was going to point out that 3 years ago the World Series was contested by 2 terrible pitching staffs, but the Rangers and Diamondbacks each had 10+ more pitching fWAR than this year's Cubs