Giants (Ray) vs Cubs (Cabrera): 6/5/26, 1:20pm

[UMFan83]

6 minutes ago, abuck1220 said:

imagine if the cubs hadn’t pulled that one off last night and then this happened today. would almost be impossible to not fire SOMEBODY. 

Eh I don't think last night matters.  If they had done something with it, you could argue it gave us positive momentum but turning around and playing like this destroys all momentum we might have gotten and puts us back in "we absolutely suck" mode.

[Bull]

My preferred trade candidate? Swanson, Seiya, Maybe a contender would be interested if we ate half the remaining contract.

 

might get something interesting for Busch. 

[Post Count Padder]

I looked away for like 20 minutes and then saw the score and actually laughed.

Someone gets fired over this right? Should be Hoyer but at least has to be Dustin Kelly? Maybe a demotion or two, couple of phantom IL stints. Nothing is working aside from one inning last night.

[Old Style]

Hoyer needs to go. I’m almost ready to send Brewer Boy packing with him. 

[CubinNY]

16-1???? WTF? Just getting off from work

[UMFan83]

Dom seems somewhat connected, I don't think he would just make something completely up. 

[Old Style]

Just now, CubinNY said:

16-1???? WTF? Just getting off from work

It was 16-0. The comeback has started. 

[NorthsideAvenger]

1 minute ago, Post Count Padder said:

I looked away for like 20 minutes and then saw the score and actually laughed.

Someone gets fired over this right? Should be Hoyer but at least has to be Dustin Kelly? Maybe a demotion or two, couple of phantom IL stints. Nothing is working aside from one inning last night.

You would think. 

[chibears55]

1 minute ago, Old Style said:

Hoyer needs to go. I’m almost ready to send Brewer Boy packing with him. 

We can hope after the game..lol

[mul21]

1 minute ago, UMFan83 said:

Dom seems somewhat connected, I don't think he would just make something completely up. 

It wouldn't surprise me.  Too many nice guys.  You need an horsefeathers or two (looking at you Rossy) to keep everyone accountable and this team doesn't have any of those guys.

[chibears55]

1 minute ago, UMFan83 said:

Dom seems somewhat connected, I don't think he would just make something completely up. 

Lol, wasn't this guy saying a few years ago something was gonna happen and never came close, forget what it was 

[Nolansomebody]

3 minutes ago, CubinNY said:

16-1???? WTF? Just getting off from work

Welcome to the party.

[UMFan83]

Just now, chibears55 said:

Lol, wasn't this guy saying a few years ago something was gonna happen and never came close, forget what it was 

Maybe...could be bunk.  I know he's boys with Ian and probably has some locker room connections, but I'd obviously still take with a grain of salt.

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

4 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

Dom seems somewhat connected, I don't think he would just make something completely up. 

yeah, don't believe this for a second. Craig would never call anyone out

[Wilson A2000]

4 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

Dom seems somewhat connected, I don't think he would just make something completely up. 

The very high paid players that Counsell keeps batting 2-4?

[Gjfificifjdej]

Maybe Fergie can cover some innings. 

[Outshined_One]

You don't need redasses, you just need guys who can stay healthy and produce.  I don't think Kris Bryant won an MVP because John Lackey was a dick to everyone in the clubhouse, ya know?

At this point, though, something needs to happen, be it a crazy trade or a bloodletting, because this team is sleepwalking.

[mul21]

2 minutes ago, Tangled Up in Plaid said:

yeah, don't believe this for a second. Craig would never call anyone out

Do you actually believe this?  The guy has been a successful MLB manager for 10 years and played with some of the biggest names in the game.  Thinking he wouldn't call someone out is just wild.

[mul21]

1 minute ago, Outshined_One said:

You don't need redasses, you just need guys who can stay healthy and produce.  I don't think Kris Bryant won an MVP because John Lackey was a dick to everyone in the clubhouse, ya know?

At this point, though, something needs to happen, be it a crazy trade or a bloodletting, because this team is sleepwalking.

Have you listened to the Loveable Reunion podcast at all?  Just based on that, I'd strongly disagree with this notion.  They don't even need to be a redass, but guys like Lackey, Ross, and Lester were all willing and able to put a boot in someone's ass if they weren't toeing the line every day.

[We Got The Whole 9]

We have to be setting the record for games took to go 15 over to. 500 

[chibears55]

7 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

Maybe...could be bunk.  I know he's boys with Ian and probably has some locker room connections, but I'd obviously still take with a grain of salt.

No doubt theyre all frustrated and pissesd off, obviously I dont know these guys personally,  but this group doesn't have a feel of having someone in that clubhouse who would stand up and be voiceous and ballsy enough to be that type of leader and start calling people out.

Counsell seems like a guy who would do it quietly behind closed doors with individuals 

Edited 58 minutes ago by chibears55

[UMFan83]

1 minute ago, chibears55 said:

No doubt theyre all frustrated and pissesd off, obviously I dont know these guys personally,  but this group doesn't have a feel of having someone in that clubhouse who would stand up and be voiceous and ballsy enough to be that type of leader and start calling people out.

Counsell seems like a guy who would do it quietly behind closed doors with individuals 

Wild because Jed told us leadership was one of the big reasons they wanted Bregman so bad. 

[Outshined_One]

2 minutes ago, mul21 said:

Have you listened to the Loveable Reunion podcast at all?  Just based on that, I'd strongly disagree with this notion.  They don't even need to be a redass, but guys like Lackey, Ross, and Lester were all willing and able to put a boot in someone's ass if they weren't toeing the line every day.

We can argue about intangibles and motivation until the cows come home, but the bottom line is this team currently sucks and it can't continue in its current form.

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

7 minutes ago, mul21 said:

Do you actually believe this?  The guy has been a successful MLB manager for 10 years and played with some of the biggest names in the game.  Thinking he wouldn't call someone out is just wild.

I was being a tad facetious, but with Craig's personality it wouldn't surprise me.

[abuck1220]

19 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

Eh I don't think last night matters.  If they had done something with it, you could argue it gave us positive momentum but turning around and playing like this destroys all momentum we might have gotten and puts us back in "we absolutely suck" mode.

well yeah obv last night means nothing after today. but if they had just lost 6-3 or whatever last night and then followed that up with a 16-1 loss today for what would have been their TENTH straight home loss, that kinda feels like an exclamation point moment where SOMETHING has to be done.