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[gflore34]

How many games does Eberflus have to piss away before the Bears come to the conclusion the light bulb is never going to come on for this clown?  He's a fair to poor DC, that's all he'll ever be, his ceiling.  They've already broken the seal on their "noble" not in-season firing of coaches with Waldron.  Do the team, the fan base, hell, the NFL a favor and show Eberflus the door.

[CubinNY]

I saw this online:

The Bears are 101-24-2 when they have no turnovers on offense and get a takeaway on defense.

Three of those losses have come in the last three weeks. 

[mul21]

1 minute ago, gflore34 said:

How many games does Eberflus have to piss away before the Bears come to the conclusion the light bulb is never going to come on for this clown?  He's a fair to poor DC, that's all he'll ever be, his ceiling.  They've already broken the seal on their "noble" not in-season firing of coaches with Waldron.  Do the team, the fan base, hell, the NFL a favor and show Eberflus the door.

I think he's actually a pretty damn good defensive coordinator, he's just not cut out to be the leader an NFL team needs.

[gflore34]

5 minutes ago, mul21 said:

I think he's actually a pretty damn good defensive coordinator, he's just not cut out to be the leader an NFL team needs.

Way too conservative on defense as well, you could see it yesterday, time and time again they rushed four on obvious passing downs.  Giving, Love, a guy who will make mistakes under pressure all kinds of time.

[WrigleyField 22]

10 minutes ago, mul21 said:

I think if Flus gets canned it'll be the special teams coach running the team, which I prefer anyway.  Let Brown focus on Caleb and the offense because based on yesterday, he seems to have a decent idea of how to be at least moderately successful.

It's probably moot but if Flus were canned I kind of would prefer Brown. I get letting him focus on Caleb and not rocking the boat there, but of anyone on the coaching staff he's probably got the most serious credentials as a potential HC candidate.  Especially if there was an extended time (like 4ish weeks) where someone was gonna get some run, give him a chance to prove he's the guy. It would ironically be the one thing to somewhat combat the "regime change in year 2" fear every fan has right now.  

 

Weirder things have happened right?

[jersey cubs fan]

32 minutes ago, gflore34 said:

I'm not entirely convinced Eberflus was Poles' choice.

He had every opportunity to make a change this past season and did not. 
 

This is Poles’s team, from head coach down to long snapper. Poles chose to go into the 2024 season with all these people around. 

[gflore34]

4 minutes ago, WrigleyField 22 said:

It's probably moot but if Flus were canned I kind of would prefer Brown. I get letting him focus on Caleb and not rocking the boat there, but of anyone on the coaching staff he's probably got the most serious credentials as a potential HC candidate.  Especially if there was an extended time (like 4ish weeks) where someone was gonna get some run, give him a chance to prove he's the guy. It would ironically be the one thing to somewhat combat the "regime change in year 2" fear every fan has right now.  

 

Weirder things have happened right?

Complete nonsense if you find the right guy to be HC.

[BigSlick]

It simply astonishing how this team finds ways to lose. I’ve been firmly on the “the rest of the season doesn’t really matter, it’s all about Caleb Williams development” for a few weeks now, but good god. 
 

The Bears franchise doesn’t deserve its fans, it really doesn’t. 

[Brian707]

1 hour ago, gflore34 said:

I'm not entirely convinced Eberflus was Poles' choice.

I would be money he wasn't

[minnesotacubsfan]

35 minutes ago, gflore34 said:

Way too conservative on defense as well, you could see it yesterday, time and time again they rushed four on obvious passing downs.  Giving, Love, a guy who will make mistakes under pressure all kinds of time.

Bears D isnt even in top 10, his defensive value shouldnt save Eberflus because it isnt elite

[gflore34]

11 minutes ago, Brian707 said:

I would be money he wasn't

Maybe the group of players who approach Poles about Waldron could do the same about Eberflus today.  They've got to fed up with Eberflus finding ways to lose winnable games by now.

[UMFan83]

56 minutes ago, WrigleyField 22 said:

It's probably moot but if Flus were canned I kind of would prefer Brown. I get letting him focus on Caleb and not rocking the boat there, but of anyone on the coaching staff he's probably got the most serious credentials as a potential HC candidate.  Especially if there was an extended time (like 4ish weeks) where someone was gonna get some run, give him a chance to prove he's the guy. It would ironically be the one thing to somewhat combat the "regime change in year 2" fear every fan has right now.  

 

Weirder things have happened right?

Ehh...I'd rather not be looking for head coaching potential on the current staff.  You don't want to end up like the Raiders who due to pressure from the players end up hiring their interim HC to be the permanent HC.  They're now 2-8 and Pierce is likely to be fired.  I know that's just one recent example but I guess I'm saying that the season is over...their playoff odds are apparently 1% at this point.  I think its hard to evaluate the performance of a coach based on what are now meaningless games, and I'd rather do an actual HC search...don't give the Bears an opportunity to do something dumb because they'll probably do it.

Moot point though because Eberflus isn't getting fired

Edited November 18, 2024 by UMFan83

[sneakypower]

8 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

Ehh...I'd rather not be looking for head coaching potential on the current staff.  You don't want to end up like the Raiders who due to pressure from the players end up hiring their interim HC to be the permanent HC.  They're now 2-8 and Pierce is likely to be fired.  I know that's just one recent example but I guess I'm saying that the season is over...their playoff odds are apparently 1% at this point.  I think its hard to evaluate the performance of a coach based on what are now meaningless games, and I'd rather do an actual HC search...don't give the Bears an opportunity to do something dumb because they'll probably do it.

Moot point though because Eberflus isn't getting fired

that's comfortably a bottom-3 roster talent-wise, i don't know that it's fair to suggest Pierce is a cautionary tale due to W-L results

[Wilson A2000]

1 hour ago, gflore34 said:

I'm not entirely convinced Eberflus was Poles' choice.

I thought he was given 3 choices and had to pick 1 of them. 

Stefanski needs to be on the short list if he ends up getting let go.
 

[BigSlick]

It's kind of amazing to look at the Steelers and see a team that has below average talent at QB that manages to maneuver itself to an 8-2 record no matter what. They are really the bizarro Bears - managing to do what the Bears always say they want to do (win by good defense, running game, special teams and coaching) and never do. 

[Cubfanintheknow]

Anyone else catch the end of last night's Chargers-Bengals game? Two things stuck out to me:

Game was tied with about 40 seconds left and the Chargers had just driven into field goal range. With a time out in their pocket, they decided to keep the offense moving and actually scored a touchdown with 0:18 left in the game to take the lead. You know, rather than sit on the ball for a long field goal attempt.

The Bengals proceeded to get the ball near mid-field for one last Hail Mary. The Chargers then used their last time out to review their defensive assignments for the final play... and proceeded to blitz Joe Burrows into hurrying his final pass. It ended up getting knocked down short of the goal line. You know, rather than....

Frustrating to watch it all done correctly. Even more frustrating because both tactics have been used time and time again by head coaches to get successful outcomes.

Except Eberflus.

[mul21]

5 minutes ago, Cubfanintheknow said:

Anyone else catch the end of last night's Chargers-Bengals game? Two things stuck out to me:

Game was tied with about 40 seconds left and the Chargers had just driven into field goal range. With a time out in their pocket, they decided to keep the offense moving and actually scored a touchdown with 0:18 left in the game to take the lead. You know, rather than sit on the ball for a long field goal attempt.

The Bengals proceeded to get the ball near mid-field for one last Hail Mary. The Chargers then used their last time out to review their defensive assignments for the final play... and proceeded to blitz Joe Burrows into hurrying his final pass. It ended up getting knocked down short of the goal line. You know, rather than....

Frustrating to watch it all done correctly. Even more frustrating because both tactics have been used time and time again by head coaches to get successful outcomes.

Except Eberflus.

It's because Harbaugh actually knows what he's doing and in spite of being an incredible weirdo, he's willing to take the appropriate risks as needed.  There's a reason he's got a team that won 5 (?) games last year at 7 wins already.

[gflore34]

7 minutes ago, Cubfanintheknow said:

Anyone else catch the end of last night's Chargers-Bengals game? Two things stuck out to me:

Game was tied with about 40 seconds left and the Chargers had just driven into field goal range. With a time out in their pocket, they decided to keep the offense moving and actually scored a touchdown with 0:18 left in the game to take the lead. You know, rather than sit on the ball for a long field goal attempt.

The Bengals proceeded to get the ball near mid-field for one last Hail Mary. The Chargers then used their last time out to review their defensive assignments for the final play... and proceeded to blitz Joe Burrows into hurrying his final pass. It ended up getting knocked down short of the goal line. You know, rather than....

Frustrating to watch it all done correctly. Even more frustrating because both tactics have been used time and time again by head coaches to get successful outcomes.

Except Eberflus.

The truly frustrated part is it's a lack of aggression. a lack of aggression from a coach who has to know by now he's fighting for his job.  Just don't understand his stubbornness and refusal to be aggressive, it'll end with his firing.

[mul21]

15 minutes ago, gflore34 said:

The truly frustrated part is it's a lack of aggression. a lack of aggression from a coach who has to know by now he's fighting for his job.  Just don't understand his stubbornness and refusal to be aggressive, it'll end with his firing.

It's the hallmark of 95% of defensive coaches.

[BigSlick]

At the end of the day, I don’t even find the particular move from Eberflus to not run another play that impactful. It’s very likely it wouldn’t have gotten the Bears significantly closer, and the kick would have missed anyway. Like, he still should have done it, but that specific choice isn’t the end of the world for me.

no, my biggest problem with Matt Eberflus is that he is somehow a black hole of bad luck and bad vibes and horrible things continuously happen to his teams as a rate I’ve never before seen in any sport. I don’t think I’ve seen more unlucky, bizarre, inexplicable things happen to a coach in so short of time to cause his teams to lose. He needs to go, he needs to take his bad stink away, forever. I don’t know what it is exactly that is causing it, and frankly I don’t need to know. Go, begone!

[Brian707]

The worst part if not for the dumb hail mary and the blocked kick. Everyone would be talking about Williams leading the Bears twice to game winning drives. Instead, we are talking about dumb horsefeathers Eberflus losing yet another winnable game.

The Packers saw Santos kick a line drive on that 55 yarder in the first quarter, they are smart the Bears are dumb.

Edited November 18, 2024 by Brian707

[mul21]

15 minutes ago, BigSlick said:

At the end of the day, I don’t even find the particular move from Eberflus to not run another play that impactful. It’s very likely it wouldn’t have gotten the Bears significantly closer, and the kick would have missed anyway. Like, he still should have done it, but that specific choice isn’t the end of the world for me.

no, my biggest problem with Matt Eberflus is that he is somehow a black hole of bad luck and bad vibes and horrible things continuously happen to his teams as a rate I’ve never before seen in any sport. I don’t think I’ve seen more unlucky, bizarre, inexplicable things happen to a coach in so short of time to cause his teams to lose. He needs to go, he needs to take his bad stink away, forever. I don’t know what it is exactly that is causing it, and frankly I don’t need to know. Go, begone!

What you're lamenting is the most obvious symptom of the underlying issue.  He's unprepared to handle the most crucial moments of the games.  He consistently falls short of the bare minimum required of an NFL coach in terms of operation of the team and whether it's because he's not aggressive enough or he's not aware enough is immaterial.  And not running another play was potentially that impactful.  You drop even a checkdown pass to an RB and get another 7 yards, the trajectory Santos needs on that kick is very different and likely makes a difference in the outcome.

[gflore34]

24 minutes ago, BigSlick said:

At the end of the day, I don’t even find the particular move from Eberflus to not run another play that impactful. It’s very likely it wouldn’t have gotten the Bears significantly closer, and the kick would have missed anyway. Like, he still should have done it, but that specific choice isn’t the end of the world for me.

no, my biggest problem with Matt Eberflus is that he is somehow a black hole of bad luck and bad vibes and horrible things continuously happen to his teams as a rate I’ve never before seen in any sport. I don’t think I’ve seen more unlucky, bizarre, inexplicable things happen to a coach in so short of time to cause his teams to lose. He needs to go, he needs to take his bad stink away, forever. I don’t know what it is exactly that is causing it, and frankly I don’t need to know. Go, begone!

if Eberflus says - "Ya know what? horsefeathers them, lets get as many yards possible in two plays and try to make the FG attempt much easier or even a TD, go Caleb." -  I'm certain we'd be talking about a Bears victory today.

[UMFan83]

Caleb had a 85.2 PFF rating yesterday, highest a QB has had against GB this year.  One of the biggest things that sucks about the ending is that while I recognize he had a solid game, the stink of the loss makes me not want to spend too much time thinking about it.  But still, positive signs.  That 4th down throw on the final drive had to be placed absolutely perfectly and it was.  Takes balls to make that throw with the game on the line. 

 

Edited November 18, 2024 by UMFan83

[mul21]

11 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

Caleb had a 85.2 PFF rating yesterday, highest a QB has had against GB this year.  One of the biggest things that sucks about the ending is that while I recognize he had a solid game, the stink of the loss makes me not want to spend too much time thinking about it.  But still, positive signs.  That 4th down throw on the final drive had to be placed absolutely perfectly and it was.  Takes balls to make that throw with the game on the line. 

 

I immediately sent this gif to my buddy after that throw.

https://tenor.com/9K2h.gif

Edited November 18, 2024 by mul21