2018-19 Other Team Offseason Transactions Not Worth a New Thread

[Bertz]

Cole Hamels is good and easily worth $20m in a broad sense, but for our specific case with less than $30m (maybe less than $25?) available to spend it was dumb to pick up his option.

[jersey cubs fan]

Cole Hamels is good and easily worth $20m in a broad sense, but for our specific case with less than $30m (maybe less than $25?) available to spend it was dumb to pick up his option.

 

but what this take presupposes is, what if that is not the case?

[Andy]

Dudgers signing AJ Pollock.

 

[tweet]

[/tweet]

 

Heyman says "$55M plus", which seems notably small.

[Cubswin11]

Dudgers signing AJ Pollock.

 

[tweet]

[/tweet]

 

Heyman says "$55M plus", which seems notably small.

That seems perfectly reasonable to me for a guy who’s only had 1 good year and has been hurt every other year since and is 31 already

[Cubswin11]

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/01/mets-sign-justin-wilson.html

 

Go Mets

The few weeks they’re good will be fun (hopefully we don’t play them when this taking place) until everyone breaks like always and they’re nothing special.

[Bertz]

 

I would have preferred this to Brach, but not enough to get worked up over. Brach has a much higher floor.

[Cubswin11]

 

I would have preferred this to Brach, but not enough to get worked up over. Brach has a much higher floor.

I really wanted him (figuring he’d only cost about this) but yeah, not gonna lose sleep. Don’t feel great Duensing/Rosario/Ryan are the only real lefty bullpen options as I’m guessing Monty will stay in more the swingman/longer relief/full inning and not matchup role.

Edited January 28, 2019 by Cubswin11

[Brian]

There's only like 100 free agents so the Twins decided to pick Mike Olt up from the eye doctor and sign him

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/01/twins-sign-mike-olt.html

[Cubswin11]

We should look at picking this guy up if he’s healthy. Seems pretty solid to join the throw horsefeathers against the wall group.

 

[NonProfitCow]

The Red Sox gave a MiL deal to Jenrry Mejia. He last threw a ML pitch in 2015 having been suspended three times for drug use, including a lifetime (read: one year) ban from 2016. He threw 7 innings in the DSL last year

 

Reeeeeaaaaaalllllly cool offseason going on

 

Hey Pete, you're 40, had a 5.49 FIP and 1.765 WHIP last year.

[JennieGarthAlgar]

Yeah and the other guy had a lifetime ban last year

[jersey cubs fan]

[tweet]

[/tweet]

[jersey cubs fan]

[Cubswin11]

I’m sure he’ll be throwing 97+ in no time going there. Teams, rightfully, weren’t buying into his ~60 “good” innings or whatever in between injuries and suspect peripherals last year it appears with this contract.

[Cubswin11]

I’m sure he’ll be throwing 97+ in no time going there. Teams, rightfully, weren’t buying into his ~60 good innings or whatever in between injuries last year it appears with this contract.

 

I’d actually lean more towards this being clever than teams buying he outright sucks and last year was all fluke, particularly given the org doing the buying. It’s not as if teams are paying up for anyone the past two years so that’s definitely not a good guage

Guys who are worth it the last two years are still largely getting paid in the end, even though the process and optics around the dragging out offseason sucks. The Wade Miley’s of the world aren’t, which they probably shouldn’t. I’d say the contract definitely tells me teams think last year was fraudulent and he mostly sucks. So I’d say it’s more a low risk/cheap move than being clever. Which is fine as your 5/6/7+ starter depth but he most likely just sucks and it doesn’t cost anything to give him a chance to maybe take some starts before Whitley is ready.

[cl smooth]

Nolan Arenado getting paid:

 

[tweet]

[/tweet]

[Cubswin11]

Nolan Arenado getting paid:

 

[tweet]

[/tweet]

So KB will be getting $30 mil+ in 3 years

[Bluescale]

Nolan Arenado getting paid:

 

[tweet]

[/tweet]

So KB will be getting $30 mil+ in 3 years

 

He's been worth $184M already, so he really should be getting that $30M now.

[Cubswin11]

Guys who are worth it the last two years are still largely getting paid in the end, even though the process and optics around the dragging out offseason sucks. The Wade Miley’s of the world aren’t, which they probably shouldn’t. I’d say the contract definitely tells me teams think last year was fraudulent and he mostly sucks. So I’d say it’s more a low risk/cheap move than being clever. Which is fine as your 5/6/7+ starter depth but he most likely just sucks and it doesn’t cost anything to give him a chance to maybe take some starts before Whitley is ready.

 

We’re like 3-4 years removed from Brett Anderson getting $10 million off of averaging 51 mediocre-ish innings a year for 4 years during a much more pitcher friendly era of ball. This is probably a little deeper than Wade Miley isn’t a staff savior therefore it’s easy to conclude the market has spoken. Teams are being dirtbags because people can’t wait to defend how super duper smart they are, so you’re getting situations where a Pomeranz can’t match a Phil Coke up front, lots of talented guys are taking MiL deals with low salaries if rostered, and a guy like Miley with some 1200 above average innings under his belt without a significant injury and above average physical talent will have made like $5 million the past two seasons. He’s not the best bet to be bumped from their rotation for Whitley either. This isn’t a perception/optics thing.

Lance Lynn got 3/30 this offseason, Harvey got $10 million and Cobb And Chatwood got plenty last year. Teams are still spending stupidly on pitching. Wade Miley likely sucks with shitty peripherals last year and he was hurt 2-3 times and was horrible in 2017, Pomeranz was shitty and hurt last year too. What do you think these guys should’ve gotten?

 

Miley pitched 80.something innings last year and of SP who pitched at least that (145 total) he was 143rd in K/9, 81st in BB/9, tied for 88th in xFIP, and his HR numbers were ridiculously lower than his career average (60%+ lower). His batted ball profile wasn't a ton different from his career (in fact he gave up more hard contact than his career average) and his velo was the same +/-, he just threw the cutter more. He was some HR luck, sequencing/defensive shifting/BABIP luck away from being the same shitty to league average pitcher he's always been.

[Bluescale]

Since no one else is saying, I'll go ahead and put this out there. Wade Miley sucks, and the owners blow. The two options don't have to be mutually exclusive from each other.

[Cubswin11]

Since no one else is saying, I'll go ahead and put this out there. Wade Miley sucks, and the owners blow. The two options don't have to be mutually exclusive from each other.

Right. He sucks and got a deal reflecting such, it doesn’t take away from owners sucking and this isn’t a deal really indicative of them sucking.

[imb]

i still dont understand why the braves aren't in on harper or machado (or hell both)

 

their payroll is like $110m, freeman is locked up, literally everyone else is cheap. why not pair the acuna/albies (not convinced he's good but still) with two mid 20s super talents? They could sign both guys and still have a manageable payroll. They have a new stadium on the way, it makes too much sense. what am i missing

[Cubswin11]

i still dont understand why the braves aren't in on harper or machado (or hell both)

 

their payroll is like $110m, freeman is locked up, literally everyone else is cheap. why not pair the acuna/albies (not convinced he's good but still) with two mid 20s super talents? They could sign both guys and still have a manageable payroll. They have a new stadium on the way, it makes too much sense. what am i missing

Yeah I don’t get it either. I thought they’d be way in on at least one and also the likes of Kimbrel, Pollock, Keuchel, Corbin and some of the other RPs. They already have their full tax payer funded stadium too, it opened last year or the year before.

[SouthSideRyan]

Nolan Arenado getting paid:

 

[tweet]

[/tweet]

 

Just kidding about that saving our budget for Arenado thing

[Post Count Padder]

How far the mighty have fallen

 

The Rangers announced Friday that they’ve signed veteran right-hander Jason Hammel to a minor league contract with an invitation to Major League Spring Training. Hammel is represented by ACES.

 

Also the Giants found their veteran outfielder:

 

The Giants announced Friday that they have claimed outfielder John Andreoli off waivers from the Rangers.