10/1 GAME 163 Brewers (Chacin) @ Cubs (Q) 12:05p CST ESPN

[abuck1220]

 

yelich carried a .500 wOBA for a month

 

and the cubs played well in september. milwaukee went balls out. why is it a bad thing that i'm willing to give more credit to milwaukee than blame to the cubs?

 

the cubs did not play well to end the season. they went 14-13 beginning with the first brewers series.

 

Please hang tight, the arbitrary sample police are on their way.

 

doesn't seem like an arbitrary sample to me. not any more than "month of september" does. it was a big series won by the team that just beat the cubs for the division by one game.

[rocket]

when does the wild card game merch go on sale, i need to commemorate the season

[ConstableRabbit]

 

God this is the stupidest, most NSBB take and I'm surprised even more people aren't in on it.

You split 10s, don't you.

 

Probability that can be mathematically measured != takes filtered through fan biases

Hey, I'm the guy who was mad at Joe for how we used Chapman at the end of the 2016 WS when everyone was talking about results over process. It wasn't biased to say that the Cubs were likely going to win the division up until the very end based on all of the information that we had on hand. That it took Milwaukee winning 8 straight to close the season to win it is even more evidence of that. If that makes my take stupid, so be it.

[Flames24Rulz]

i mean stop acting like the brewers ended 70-0 and yelich hit .874 or something.

 

they played well, the cubs didn't, ergo the brewers caught the cubs. i don't know why it seemingly makes people feel better to say the cubs didn't horsefeathers this up.

 

yelich carried a .500 wOBA for a month

 

and the cubs played well in september. milwaukee went balls out. why is it a bad thing that i'm willing to give more credit to milwaukee than blame to the cubs?

 

the cubs did not play well to end the season. they went 14-13 beginning with the first brewers series.

 

They gave up a 5 game lead in a little less than month. Obviously the Brewers deserve a lot of credit for how they played the last week and a half, but the Cubs weren't exactly world beaters in September.

[Irrelevant Dude]

 

Willson’s awful at bat and Baez missing the fastball was the game

Missing fastballs happens, but Willson's double play was completely predictable and preventable.

 

Javy’s was a tough break. The garbage of this season falls on Willson and Schwarber massively shortening this lineup. And Bryant getting hurt. And Russell being a POS.

It is disappointing that Schwarber hasn't become the hitter it looked like he would be, but his numbers were pretty typical Schwarber numbers. Willson and Russell's regressions definitely hurt, but I think Bryant's injury has been the single biggest factor. I just hope the problem can be fixed in the offseason, because Bryant not returning to near-MVP form would be a huge problem going forward.

[Cubswin11]

Maddon didn’t even mention Edwards as an available reliever tomorrow. So no playoff roster spot is my guess

Unless he’s hurt he at least makes the WC roster since you don’t carry like 3 of the regular SPs

[The_Achiever]

Well that was a fitting finish to the regular season.

[imb]

like it's ok to not blame the cubs as a whole for what happened (built a big division lead then played above .500 ball in september) while also criticizing the offense for being so feast-or-famine (at best) AND also giving credit to milwaukee for playing their balls off.

[Guancous]

The Cubs won 95 games and allowed over fifty fewer runs than last year.

 

Would winning the division be optimal? Of course. Win tomorrow, get a day’s rest, then gear up to beat the Brewers. It’s not like the Cubs have to face the mid 90s Braves.

 

Hell, maybe Yelich cools down to a .450 wOBA.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

like it's ok to not blame the cubs as a whole for what happened (built a big division lead then played above .500 ball in september) while also criticizing the offense for being so feast-or-famine (at best) AND also giving credit to milwaukee for playing their balls off.

and acknowledging there’s a lot more to their team than yelich

[Gmoney08]

 

Willson’s awful at bat and Baez missing the fastball was the game

Missing fastballs happens, but Willson's double play was completely predictable and preventable.

 

Javy’s was a tough break. The garbage of this season falls on Willson and Schwarber massively shortening this lineup. And Bryant getting hurt. And Russell being a POS.

 

Schwarber did not shorten the lineup..hell his OPS of .826 was just under Rizzos.

 

Russell collapsing, Bryants injury, and Willy falling off a map is what hurt the offense.

 

I highly suspect Willy has been playing with a ton of injuries.

[soccer10k]

like it's ok to not blame the cubs as a whole for what happened (built a big division lead then played above .500 ball in september) while also criticizing the offense for being so feast-or-famine (at best) AND also giving credit to milwaukee for playing their balls off.

 

I feel like that’s what most people are saying. That’s certainly how I feel.

[BigSlick]

i honestly feel really bad for the cubs players. they've had to play a bazillion games in a row under intense pressure and they gotta do it again tomorrow

 

it doesn't stop me from getting super irrationally angry at them for failing

[imb]

You split 10s, don't you.

 

Probability that can be mathematically measured != takes filtered through fan biases

Hey, I'm the guy who was mad at Joe for how we used Chapman at the end of the 2016 WS when everyone was talking about results over process. It wasn't biased to say that the Cubs were likely going to win the division up until the very end based on all of the information that we had on hand. That it took Milwaukee winning 8 straight to close the season to win it is even more evidence of that. If that makes my take stupid, so be it.

 

i think this is the overall point i've been trying to get at since early this summer

 

here are some things i said were true then and guess what they held true

 

1 - the cubs, viewed with a wide-ass lens, were the best team before the season started and even with the difficulties they faced with injuries, performance, looked to be the best team

 

2- the brewers were also good

 

3 - the cubs had some problems that made them vulnerable

 

4 - sometimes weird horsefeathers happens and the team who is best in July or whatever doesn't finish on top

 

and the response to those posts was LOOK AT THE RUN DIFFERENTIAL, LOL THEY'RE GONNA PLAY SCHOOP AT SECOND, WE HAVE THE BEST RECORD, NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT.

 

having other good teams in your division makes it really really stupid to jerk yourself off too soon. even the pollyanna dorks on here *knew* that the injuries and weird offense we were dealing with made us vulnerable but they ignored it because there was always something in the standings or hidden in some metric that made it impossible that we wouldn't win the division. And now it's October and we are potentially 1 game from the season ending and us looking at our coaching staff and roster and going oh lord we fucked up. And we're also one game away from being essentially right where we should be and everything is fine. Because that's how baseball works.

[TMan92]

Missing fastballs happens, but Willson's double play was completely predictable and preventable.

 

Javy’s was a tough break. The garbage of this season falls on Willson and Schwarber massively shortening this lineup. And Bryant getting hurt. And Russell being a POS.

 

Schwarber did not shorten the lineup..hell his OPS of .826 was just under Rizzos.

 

Russell collapsing, Bryants injury, and Willy falling off a map is what hurt the offense.

 

I highly suspect Willy has been playing with a ton of injuries.

 

Schwarber after the all star break was the anti Yelich.

[UMFan83]

The Cubs won 95 games and allowed over fifty fewer runs than last year.

 

Would winning the division be optimal? Of course. Win tomorrow, get a day’s rest, then gear up to beat the Brewers. It’s not like the Cubs have to face the mid 90s Braves.

 

Hell, maybe Yelich cools down to a .450 wOBA.

 

now that i'm calming down my hopes are rising again. Just win tomorrow, steal the Brewers defensive cheat codes, and then take it game by game in the NLDS

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I’ll get excited about Schwarber if he ever becomes a full-time player

[Sammy Sofa]

What's more likely: that some version of next level-Yelich has been unlocked, or that I'm right to be mildly terrified that Kris Bryant seems to have a terminal case of nebulous "shoulder fatigue" that started WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY early in the season?

[Brian707]

Win tomorrow then clinch a spot in the NLCS next Wednesday on their field. I think that's the thing that pisses me off the most, them celebrating at Wrigley today Edited October 1, 2018 by Brian707

[Sammys Boombox]

I just want to reiterate that I hate small divisions with such a large reward attached to them. And this isn’t just because of our current situation. I’ve been harping on it for years. Tying for the best record in the league, in the best division in the league and ending up in essentially a play-in game is just stupid. You will never convince me otherwise.

[UMFan83]

Missing fastballs happens, but Willson's double play was completely predictable and preventable.

 

Javy’s was a tough break. The garbage of this season falls on Willson and Schwarber massively shortening this lineup. And Bryant getting hurt. And Russell being a POS.

 

Schwarber did not shorten the lineup..hell his OPS of .826 was just under Rizzos.

 

Russell collapsing, Bryants injury, and Willy falling off a map is what hurt the offense.

 

I highly suspect Willy has been playing with a ton of injuries.

 

Whenever anyone points to Schwarber's numbers, I go looking for numbers that show that he's really actually awful and I can't. They are solid numbers, but from just watching the games it feels like Schwarber is a giant black hole in the lineup. Maybe its because he has done historically bad in high leverage situations, but I can't remember the last time I thought 'oh good Schwarber is up', unless its a big situation where we need him to dong and I know he has the ability to do so although he never does.

Edited October 1, 2018 by UMFan83

[imb]

The Cubs won 95 games and allowed over fifty fewer runs than last year.

 

Would winning the division be optimal? Of course. Win tomorrow, get a day’s rest, then gear up to beat the Brewers. It’s not like the Cubs have to face the mid 90s Braves.

 

Hell, maybe Yelich cools down to a .450 wOBA.

 

now that i'm calming down my hopes are rising again. Just win tomorrow, steal the Brewers defensive cheat codes, and then take it game by game in the NLDS

 

maybe im just being a hopeless idiot here but i feel pretty good about matching up with them in an actual series?

[Old Style]

Anyone else having issues getting their tickets listed on Stubhub for tomorrow?

[David]

Anyone else having issues getting their tickets listed on Stubhub for tomorrow?

 

I've been having that issue for several days now. Doesn't matter what browser I try, it all falls apart when it switches over from the Season Ticket site to StubHub.

 

I've had to manually enter the barcodes in order to list them. You can get them off the mlb ballpark app.

[jersey cubs fan]

Anyone else having issues getting their tickets listed on Stubhub for tomorrow?

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