Can we send Fukudome to the minors?

[Sammy Sofa]

Gritty spark or sparkly grit?

[Outshined_One]

He won't be answering your questions again any time soon.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I just value his opinion far more than yours.

 

The qualities it takes to be good as baseball and the qualities it takes to understand baseball have virtually no intersection.

[Sammy Sofa]

Awwww.

[A-Cal]

24 RBI

[squally1313]

24 RBI

 

...Fresh meat?

[dew1679666265]

24 RBI

 

Yeah, the offense has been bad this year. RBI totals are more a reflection of that than individual performance.

[A-Cal]

24 RBI

 

Yeah, the offense has been bad this year. RBI totals are more a reflection of that than individual performance.

 

sarcasm, i thought you guys would get it

[dew1679666265]

24 RBI

 

Yeah, the offense has been bad this year. RBI totals are more a reflection of that than individual performance.

 

sarcasm, i thought you guys would get it

 

Ah, sorry. It's late and I'm tired.

[Arnold Layne]

24 RBI

 

Yeah, the offense has been bad this year. RBI totals are more a reflection of that than individual performance.

 

Eh not really. the Cubs have been lacking top end RBI guys for quite some time. Two big run producers they don't have this year are Edmonds and DeRosa. And with Ramirez out, forget it.

[inari]

24 RBI

 

Yeah, the offense has been bad this year. RBI totals are more a reflection of that than individual performance.

 

Eh not really. the Cubs have been lacking top end RBI guys for quite some time. Two big run producers they don't have this year are Edmonds and DeRosa. And with Ramirez out, forget it.

 

Not really how? I mean, what you just said pretty much confirms what Dew said.

[dew1679666265]

24 RBI

 

Yeah, the offense has been bad this year. RBI totals are more a reflection of that than individual performance.

 

Eh not really. the Cubs have been lacking top end RBI guys for quite some time. Two big run producers they don't have this year are Edmonds and DeRosa. And with Ramirez out, forget it.

 

The Cubs' team OBP this year is .321. Last year it was .354.

 

This year, Lee has been a better hitter than last year and yet is on pace for right around the same number of RBIs as last year. Soto has slugged .600 the past month and only has 12 RBIs in that period - while Soriano has slugged .400 points worse yet has 6 RBIs in that period. Soriano has been one of the worst offensive players on the team this year, yet has the second most RBIs behind only Lee.

 

If RBIs can be used to evaluate individual success, why does the guy with the second worst OPS in the starting lineup have the second most RBIs?

[jersey cubs fan]

I just love the ole' "RBI guy" label. Since these guys are in a union, do you think the RBI guys get pissed when non RBI guys get an RBI?

[Keener98]

:rotfl: Good call, and yes I felt this needed bumped for all the [expletive] Fuku has taken from Cubs fans

[jersey cubs fan]

Trade him while he's hot.

[BigSlick]

lol this will continue to be one of the silliest threads in the forum

[Three Finger]

Good to see Fukudome had a great July-- I'm one of the few people here who actually thinks he's capable of being a great player. This month: .321 AVG / .408 OBP / .560 SLG... His line on the season is .274 / .386 / .449 ... That makes an .835 OPS on top of damn fine defense. Its hard to complain about a lead off hitter with a .386 OBP (only .009 lower than Ichiro's, by the way.)

[Cubbie Swagger]

This thread is funny. I haven't been concerned about Fukudome all year. I could tell that he wasn't repeating 2008, but after one small slump everyone wanted him gone.

[CubsInNC]

I've held out hope he'd rebound as well. Just out of curiosity, because I can't seem to find it, what have been his LD% and babip on a month by month? I'd assume fred might have these, if they're not indexed somewhere. Just hoping this warming up is a sustainable trend, not due to some incredible good luck.

 

 

edit: found babip... and March/April and June highly look like the abberations, and this month was inline with last year.

 

Mar/Apr .377

May .327

June .233

Jule .314

[Cubbie Swagger]

Why don't we hear the "FU-KU-DO-ME" chants anymore?

[Hawk4Hall]

Fukudome can frustrate the hell out of you at times, but when he's on he's on. His defense is always there also.

[chuckywang]

Why don't we hear the "FU-KU-DO-ME" chants anymore?

 

Fukudome has just been quietly good lately, kinda like how Scottie Pippen had quiet 30 point games. Can you think of a defining Fukudome moment this year? I can't.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Why don't we hear the "FU-KU-DO-ME" chants anymore?

 

Fukudome has just been quietly good lately, kinda like how Scottie Pippen had quiet 30 point games. Can you think of a defining Fukudome moment this year? I can't.

 

And thats all good. Im OK with Fuku being quietly good and Lee, Ramirez, and good Soriano having the defining moments.

[alroy88]

Ok, wise ass, I'm well aware of that salary isn't a stat. But don't give me this track record crap when it's beyond obvious that Fukudome is just terrible. Nothing at all has changed with him from last year. Furthermore, Bradley has put up his numbers up when he's been in an atmosphere where the fans and media don't give a rats ass (Can you stay with me now? Meaning no pressure) like we do here.

 

And Soriano is just a bad all around baseball player who is declining. Have you noticed all of the injuries he's had here as well? I've looked at the stats and yes, there is not one outfield that is as piss poor in all facets of the game. (That would be offense and defense).

 

I'm glad I read the whole thread before posting. I think this is the most appropriate place to quote to throw my opinion in, as opposed to hailing Todd Hollandsworth the next God.

 

First, the salaries you quotes are incorrect. Kosuke is making $7M, Bradley $12.5M and Soriano $17M.

 

Second, track record obviously does matter, as players have proven to be “second half” players, or fast starters. I’m not saying that our outfield is either, but it’s ludicrous to think that a players average performance won’t balance himself out. It’s the law of averages.

 

Third, Soriano is not a “bad all around player”. He has five seasons of 30 or more steals, and four of those seasons he mashed 30 homers. Players in the 30/30 club found here. Players in the 40/40 club: Canseco, Rodriguez, Bonds and Soriano. If he’s not on the juice, he’s the only legit one to be in that exclusive club, which is pretty impressive.

 

Fourth, fantastic month of July for all three.

AB R H 1B 2B 3B HR BB K OBP SLG AVG

Bradley 66 14 18 14 1 0 3 22 16 0.455 0.424 0.273

Soriano 84 12 29 19 5 0 5 9 18 0.409 0.583 0.345

Fukudome 84 12 27 14 8 3 2 13 10 0.412 0.560 0.321

Totals 234 38 74 47 14 3 10 44 44 0.424 0.530 0.316

[Shilzzz]

this thread blew my brain