Jake Fox Called up; Izturis traded to Pittsburgh for PTBNL

[UMFan83]

PRAISE BE TO KENT!

 

HALLELUJAH!

 

Where was "Kent" late September, 2004?

 

On vacation?

 

Dealing with more pressing issues...namely Steve Stone

[Andy]

I think this is a great deal. One stipulation: The returning PTBNL must be alive.

[jersey cubs fan]

People are asking why not Murton. Isn't the question why not Cedeno? Or maybe Fox is just there to fill in as a backup 1B while Lee's gone? But with Izturis gone, wouldn't Cedeno be just as good a callup?

 

Yeah, I think they chose Fox because he's the best option of people that could handle 1B, and then send him back when Dempster comes off the DL.

It's more likely they'll send Gallagher down tomorrow when Dempster is activated' otherwise they'd have 13 pitchers. I think a more likely scenerio is that Fox stays up this weekend while Lee is serving his suspension, then when Lee returns next Tuesday Fox goes back down and Cedeno comes up.

 

But with just a few games, couldn't they cover 1B in house? Why wait on Cedeno?

 

Jake Fox is in house. They need 1B and RF help, as well as RH power. He fits the bill.

[nikao]

Yeah, I think they chose Fox because he's the best option of people that could handle 1B, and then send him back when Dempster comes off the DL.

It's more likely they'll send Gallagher down tomorrow when Dempster is activated' otherwise they'd have 13 pitchers. I think a more likely scenerio is that Fox stays up this weekend while Lee is serving his suspension, then when Lee returns next Tuesday Fox goes back down and Cedeno comes up.

 

But with just a few games, couldn't they cover 1B in house? Why wait on Cedeno?

 

Putting DeRosa at 1B leaves no backup 2B, SS, or 3B on the bench.

 

That makes sense. I couldn't figure out all the infield algebra in my head.

[Soriano12]

Now that I look at Jake Fox's minor league numbers... why are we calling this kid up exactly? His OBP is .327 as a 25 year old in AA.

 

The Cubs don't analyze that particular stat.

 

They just don't over rate that stat.

Fox has some power and that is what they are looking for.

 

The completely misunderstand and under rate it. It's why the offense has been so weak for so many years.

 

Is it possible to overrate OBP?

[jersey cubs fan]

I think this is a great deal. One stipulation: The returning PTBNL must be alive.

 

Preferrably, but not a must.

[BigbadB]

I think this is a great deal. One stipulation: The returning PTBNL must be alive.

 

I would be fine if he wasn't.

[Soriano12]

I think this is a great deal. One stipulation: The returning PTBNL must be alive.

 

Preferrably, but not a must.

 

I'd settle for the ghost of Clemente, to be honest.

[Derwood]

People are asking why not Murton. Isn't the question why not Cedeno? Or maybe Fox is just there to fill in as a backup 1B while Lee's gone? But with Izturis gone, wouldn't Cedeno be just as good a callup?

 

Yeah, I think they chose Fox because he's the best option of people that could handle 1B, and then send him back when Dempster comes off the DL.

It's more likely they'll send Gallagher down tomorrow when Dempster is activated' otherwise they'd have 13 pitchers. I think a more likely scenerio is that Fox stays up this weekend while Lee is serving his suspension, then when Lee returns next Tuesday Fox goes back down and Cedeno comes up.

 

But with just a few games, couldn't they cover 1B in house? Why wait on Cedeno?

 

Putting DeRosa at 1B leaves no backup 2B, SS, or 3B on the bench.

 

so? if you need to, you move derosa to one of those positions mid-game and bring in ward or whoever to play 1B

[UBlink]

I think this is a great deal. One stipulation: The returning PTBNL must be alive.

 

The PTBNL also must not have a crappy contract making it impossible to dump him (dead or alive).

[inari]

Now that I look at Jake Fox's minor league numbers... why are we calling this kid up exactly? His OBP is .327 as a 25 year old in AA.

 

The Cubs don't analyze that particular stat.

 

They just don't over rate that stat.

Fox has some power and that is what they are looking for.

 

The completely misunderstand and under rate it. It's why the offense has been so weak for so many years.

 

Is it possible to overrate OBP?

 

If a guy can't get on base in the minors, his power isn't going to show in the majors.

[FergieJ31]

I think this is a great deal. One stipulation: The returning PTBNL must be alive.

 

Nahh .. warm body, cold body ... anything beats Izzy's baseball-bankrupt body.

[Omar]

ESPN 1000: Cubs will pay 2/3 of Izzy's remaining salary.

[USSoccer]

I think this is a great deal. One stipulation: The returning PTBNL must be alive.

 

Preferrably, but not a must.

 

They could trade us the rights to Andy Van Slyke if they really want. I could care less.

[nikao]

ESPN 1000: Cubs will pay 2/3 of Izzy's remaining salary.

 

Depending on the actual PTBNL, this doesn't seem that much different than DFAing him.

[Andy]

ESPN 1000: Cubs will pay 2/3 of Izzy's remaining salary.

We'll just pretend that's what they're paying Theriot to actually be somewhat useful at SS.

[BigbadB]

Cesar Izturis, we wish we never knew ye.

 

Good luck at PNC!

[CubColtPacer]

ESPN 1000: Cubs will pay 2/3 of Izzy's remaining salary.

 

That's not too surprising. The Cubs should still make a few hundred thousand back on this deal though.

Edited July 19, 2007 by CubColtPacer

[Derwood]

how about some Andrew McCutchen as the PTBNL

[Soriano12]

ESPN 1000: Cubs will pay 2/3 of Izzy's remaining salary.

 

meh...what is that 1.5-2 mil? Next year is an option year that they can decline right?

[Post Count Padder]

I think this is a great deal. One stipulation: The returning PTBNL must be alive.

Nah, a corpse is fine. As long as Izzy isn't the PTBNL

[UBlink]

ESPN 1000: Cubs will pay 2/3 of Izzy's remaining salary.

 

Depending on the actual PTBNL, this doesn't seem that much different than DFAing him.

 

It's about 33% better not even counting the PTBNL.

[BigbadB]

ESPN 1000: Cubs will pay 2/3 of Izzy's remaining salary.

We'll just pretend that's what they're paying Theriot to actually be somewhat useful at SS.

 

I wouldn't have had a problem with paying 6/3 of Izturis' remaining contract. Sometimes it's just better to pay someone to play for someone else than to continue playing him on your own team.

[StMarksCubs]

ESPN 1000: Cubs will pay 2/3 of Izzy's remaining salary.

We'll just pretend that's what they're paying Theriot to actually be somewhat useful at SS.

 

I wouldn't have had a problem with paying 6/3 of Izturis' remaining contract. Sometimes it's just better to pay someone to play for someone else than to continue playing him on your own team.

 

I don't get it... why would Selig allow this and not the Jacque Jones deal?

[Omar]

I believe it was 2/3 of his remaining salary. How much is that?