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Everywhere I look in mock drafts I see Noah coming to the Bulls. Can he score?

 

I think he can score better than he did at UF. Maybe not initially, but he's a guy that can get 10ppg based on his offensive rebounding ability, his ability to finish, his ability to run the floor on the break better than most big man in the NBA (whereas in college he faced guys just as athletic and young), and simply by playing in a NBA style offense, where spacing tends to be better.

 

I'm betting he can hit an elbow/baseline jumper as well as PJ Brown does now. Couple that with his motor, ability to rebound and run the floor, and pass, and his size, and I don't see how he can't help this team down low.

 

So basically, it would be fine to take him, but we still need a big man down low to score?

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So basically, it would be fine to take him, but we still need a big man down low?

I expert Tyrus to take a big step forward this year. He showed flashes of being a force down low in the Pistons series.

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Everywhere I look in mock drafts I see Noah coming to the Bulls. Can he score?

 

I think he can score better than he did at UF. Maybe not initially, but he's a guy that can get 10ppg based on his offensive rebounding ability, his ability to finish, his ability to run the floor on the break better than most big man in the NBA (whereas in college he faced guys just as athletic and young), and simply by playing in a NBA style offense, where spacing tends to be better.

 

I'm betting he can hit an elbow/baseline jumper as well as PJ Brown does now. Couple that with his motor, ability to rebound and run the floor, and pass, and his size, and I don't see how he can't help this team down low.

 

Seriously. Compared to PJ. He's an upgrade all the way around. He's really the only player there at 9 that's gonna be an improvement in 2007-08. Others are long-term projects. Granted, I would rather gamble on a project like Brandan Wright or Yi, but Noah is the safe pick that will help this team get better without making a trade.

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Everywhere I look in mock drafts I see Noah coming to the Bulls. Can he score?

 

I think he can score better than he did at UF. Maybe not initially, but he's a guy that can get 10ppg based on his offensive rebounding ability, his ability to finish, his ability to run the floor on the break better than most big man in the NBA (whereas in college he faced guys just as athletic and young), and simply by playing in a NBA style offense, where spacing tends to be better.

 

I'm betting he can hit an elbow/baseline jumper as well as PJ Brown does now. Couple that with his motor, ability to rebound and run the floor, and pass, and his size, and I don't see how he can't help this team down low.

 

So basically, it would be fine to take him, but we still need a big man down low?

 

I think you could throw the ball to him on the block, and it wouldn't be a wasted pass. He's a good passer. I'm sure he has a jump hook in him somewhere. He's 7 ft tall.

 

At worst, even if he has no offensive game (which I doubt) you get a cheaper Tyson Chandler who can actually pass and handle the ball. I'm not sure how that's a waste at #9, given who's likely available.

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Under the Bulls team rules...he would have to cut that evergreen bush on his head...right?

Not aware of a hair-length rule. Wallace's hair is pretty long.

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Under the Bulls team rules...he would have to cut that evergreen bush on his head...right?

Not aware of a hair-length rule. Wallace's hair is pretty long.

 

i think hair rules went out the window with Jerry "Cornrow" Krause

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i'm just happy that the Bulls (unlike most of the other lottery teams) aren't looking to draft a starter. Barring any trades, Opening Day 2007 will be Hinrich/Gordon/Deng/Thomas/Wallace. A guy like Noah is an excellent bench option (considering he would probably start on a half dozen teams next year)
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Under the Bulls team rules...he would have to cut that evergreen bush on his head...right?

Not aware of a hair-length rule. Wallace's hair is pretty long.

 

i think hair rules went out the window with Jerry "Cornrow" Krause

 

S12: Are you thinking of the headband rule?

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Also keep in mind that with Tyrus and Thabo, we have 2 projects already. Given the cap situation with the core 3 players, and the window we have in the East, do we want to spend 3 years to see if Brandan Wright or Spencer Hawes don't suck?
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Under the Bulls team rules...he would have to cut that evergreen bush on his head...right?

Not aware of a hair-length rule. Wallace's hair is pretty long.

 

i think hair rules went out the window with Jerry "Cornrow" Krause

 

S12: Are you thinking of the headband rule?

 

No, I just didn't know if the hair rule was still in place.

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Also keep in mind that with Tyrus and Thabo, we have 2 projects already. Given the cap situation with the core 3 players, and the window we have in the East, do we want to spend 3 years to see if Brandan Wright or Spencer Hawes don't suck?
Good point.
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Everywhere I look in mock drafts I see Noah coming to the Bulls. Can he score?

I think he can score better than he did at UF. Maybe not initially, but he's a guy that can get 10ppg based on his offensive rebounding ability, his ability to finish, his ability to run the floor on the break better than most big man in the NBA (whereas in college he faced guys just as athletic and young), and simply by playing in a NBA style offense, where spacing tends to be better.

Yep. To add to that, he's got great hands, he's an excellent passer, and he's got a great handle for someone his size. Florida would use him to help break full-court pressure.

 

His ball-handling for a 7-footer is amazing.

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Turning things around a bit, who could the Bulls draft who would become an immediate starter on this team?

 

Unless they trade up, the answer is no one. Unless they draft a guy who comes on like a house of fire, odds are really good they'll end up taking a guy and have him spend some quality time on the bench over the next season at the very least.

 

With that in mind, I don't think it would be such a bad idea to draft someone who's rough around the edges like Hawes or Brandan Wright (although, in all fairness, Wright is more ready for the NBA than some people make him out to be). Draft one of these guys, whip them into shape, and pick your spots in using them next season. Hell, they'd do the same thing with Yi and Noah.

 

Brandan Wright has the highest ceiling of anyone in this draft outside of Oden and Durant. If this guy could develop into a force underneath, why not take a shot at him at #9?

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Turning things around a bit, who could the Bulls draft who would become an immediate starter on this team?

 

Unless they trade up, the answer is no one. Unless they draft a guy who comes on like a house of fire, odds are really good they'll end up taking a guy and have him spend some quality time on the bench over the next season at the very least.

 

With that in mind, I don't think it would be such a bad idea to draft someone who's rough around the edges like Hawes or Brandan Wright (although, in all fairness, Wright is more ready for the NBA than some people make him out to be). Draft one of these guys, whip them into shape, and pick your spots in using them next season. Hell, they'd do the same thing with Yi and Noah.

 

Brandan Wright has the highest ceiling of anyone in this draft outside of Oden and Durant. If this guy could develop into a force underneath, why not take a shot at him at #9?

 

We have an opening at the PF position as far as starting lineup goes. Tyrus may or may not be ready to start next season. Noah could immediately start in that spot in November if drafted.

 

In the NBA, high ceilings also come with high bust potential. Wright smacks of Rudy Gay.

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Personally I would stay away from Brandon Wright. He's neck and neck with Yi for who will be the biggest bust in the draft. I would not be happy if my team drafted either of them.
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I'd rather draft Wright than Hawes, personally. He just looks in the mold of the next big white guy.

 

He could turn into someone like Chris Mihm or Brad Miller.

 

...whether or not that's what you'd want out of the #9 pick is another matter altogether.

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I'd much rather see the Bulls either use the 9 pick as a trading chip to get in a big time player (and no, Zach Randolph doesn't really count), or use it to trade into the bottom of the first round and pick up a Dudley or Fazekas.
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Turning things around a bit, who could the Bulls draft who would become an immediate starter on this team?

 

Unless they trade up, the answer is no one. Unless they draft a guy who comes on like a house of fire, odds are really good they'll end up taking a guy and have him spend some quality time on the bench over the next season at the very least.

 

With that in mind, I don't think it would be such a bad idea to draft someone who's rough around the edges like Hawes or Brandan Wright (although, in all fairness, Wright is more ready for the NBA than some people make him out to be). Draft one of these guys, whip them into shape, and pick your spots in using them next season. Hell, they'd do the same thing with Yi and Noah.

 

Brandan Wright has the highest ceiling of anyone in this draft outside of Oden and Durant. If this guy could develop into a force underneath, why not take a shot at him at #9?

 

We have an opening at the PF position as far as starting lineup goes. Tyrus may or may not be ready to start next season. Noah could immediately start in that spot in November if drafted.

 

In the NBA, high ceilings also come with high bust potential. Wright smacks of Rudy Gay.

 

First, I don't see how Rudy Gay is a bust (at least at this point). He's certainly not terribly energetic or enthusiastic, but he did average 10.8 ppg, 4.5 rpg and 1 bpg. I don't like Gay a whole lot -- he's a worse version of Vince Carter (who I loathe) to me -- but his rookie season was not a bust.

 

Second, if Brandon Wright is there at #9, the Bulls (or whomever was picking there) should take him. It's all about value. He likely won't help as much next season as Noah, and he does somewhat duplicate Thomas. However, Wright has enormous potential, at worst he's got the fourth most upside -- though I have no idea how to evaluate Yi. Wright averaged 14.7 ppg, 6.2 rpg, 1.8 bpg, 1.0 spg and shot 65% from the field, which was good for 1.54 pps. That's while playing alongside and often forced to defer to Tyler Hansbrough. I also don't think Wright is nearly as sedentary on the court as he's being portrayed, he just makes things look so easy.

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I'd rather draft Wright than Hawes, personally. He just looks in the mold of the next big white guy.

 

He could turn into someone like Chris Mihm or Brad Miller.

 

...whether or not that's what you'd want out of the #9 pick is another matter altogether.

 

Hawes is skilled around the basket. However, he isn't athletic and his poor rebounding total concerns me. As is probably obvious from my post above, I much prefer Brandon Wright.

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Personally, I think Conley has the third most potential in the draft.

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