The Official 2007 NBA Draft Thread

[Exile on Waveland]

Personally, I think Conley has the third most potential in the draft.

 

You're wrong.

 

Is that too harsh a stance to take with the site's founder? I have no idea, but I've seen Conley, Jr. play since the 8th grade and his potential, while high, is not higher than all but two players in the draft.

[1908]

Personally, I think Conley has the third most potential in the draft.

 

You're wrong.

 

Is that too harsh a stance to take with the site's founder? I have no idea, but I've seen Conley, Jr. play since the 8th grade and his potential, while high, is not higher than all but two players in the draft.

Hollinger's new ranking system agrees with Tim.

[soccer10k]

Personally, I think Conley has the third most potential in the draft.

 

I really like Conley also. I'm not sure if he's the third best prospect but he's no worse than the fifth. If anybody (after Portland and Seattle obviously) pass on him they're going to be very disappointed.

[MidoreX]

10 minutes into the pre-draft show and i'm already tired of Stephen A Smith...

[Guest]

Personally, I think Conley has the third most potential in the draft.

 

You're wrong.

 

Is that too harsh a stance to take with the site's founder? I have no idea, but I've seen Conley, Jr. play since the 8th grade and his potential, while high, is not higher than all but two players in the draft.

Not at all too harsh.

 

I think the only reason that Conley's not being recognized is because he isn't 7 foot. But he's a heck of a player, he has the age, the athleticism, the performance as a freshman and more. He has everything it takes to become one of the top few point guards in the game. I don't think I could say the same for anyone else in the draft except Oden & Durant.

[Outshined_One]

Personally, I think Conley has the third most potential in the draft.

 

You're wrong.

 

Is that too harsh a stance to take with the site's founder? I have no idea, but I've seen Conley, Jr. play since the 8th grade and his potential, while high, is not higher than all but two players in the draft.

Hollinger's new ranking system agrees with Tim.

 

Considering where that thing ranked Corey Brewer and Nick Fazekas, I'm not exactly high on it.

[Guest]

I think Brendan Wright has a higher ceiling than Conley but Conley is more likely to reach it. I'd certainly rank him the 3rd best prospect in the draft (acknowledging that I don't know much about Yi).

[Exile on Waveland]

Personally, I think Conley has the third most potential in the draft.

 

You're wrong.

 

Is that too harsh a stance to take with the site's founder? I have no idea, but I've seen Conley, Jr. play since the 8th grade and his potential, while high, is not higher than all but two players in the draft.

Not at all too harsh.

 

I think the only reason that Conley's not being recognized is because he isn't 7 foot. But he's a heck of a player, he has the age, the athleticism, the performance as a freshman and more. He has everything it takes to become one of the top few point guards in the game. I don't think I could say the same for anyone else in the draft except Oden & Durant.

 

I think Conley, Jr. is the third most likely player to reach his potential -- heck, maybe even second most likely. However, he is a 6-1 point guard that can't shoot. His potential is limited. That said, I really don't like arguing against him, he's and Indiana player that I really like. I think he's going to be very good. Not necessarily putting up huge stats, but always leading a winning team. He has that knack for leading a team and winning, which is basically impossible to teach. But if we're talking about potential he can't match a 7-foot athletic shooter (Yi) or a 6-10 athlete with go-go gadget arms (Brandon Wright).

 

As far as Hollinger's ratings, they have a long way to go. To begin with, stats in basketball are far more tricky than baseball stats. Also, he bragged about Carlos Boozer being ranked #1 in 2002, but that fails to mention some rather ridiculous rankings. Examples: Mike Sweetney over Chris Bosh and Dwayne Wade in 2003; Drew Gooden, Chris Wilcox, Curtis Borchardt (!!!), Mike Dunleavy, Jr., Jared Jeffries (Go IU), Udonis Haslem and Vincent Yarbrough (!!!) over Caron Butler in 2002; Deron Williams behind 10 players in 2005 including Marvin Williams, Sean May, Rashad McCants, Channing Frye, Andrew Bogut, Raymond Felton, Chris Taft (!!!), Danny Granger and Nate Robinson; Sheldon Williams over Brandon Roy in 2006. Not to mention his quote that "it's pretty obvious that Paul ... should have gone ahead of the likes of (Deron Williams)." Williams is better than Paul (unless you prefer style over substance), but that's a whole different argument.

 

I'll remain in the extremely skeptical camp when it comes to Hollinger's rankings -- in fact, if these were my rankings, I would have been too embarrassed to release them to the public.

[Keener98]

Oden number 1, what a shocker lol

[soccer10k]

10 minutes into the pre-draft show and i'm already tired of Stephen A Smith...

 

I AM STEPHEN A. SMITH AND THESE CHEESE DOODLES ARE DELICIOUS!!

[ChiCubsFan]

10 minutes into the pre-draft show and i'm already tired of Stephen A Smith...

 

I AM STEPHEN A. SMITH AND THESE CHEESE DOODLES ARE DELICIOUS!!

 

haha. i remember that from last year. pretty funny.

[Exile on Waveland]

10 minutes into the pre-draft show and i'm already tired of Stephen A Smith...

 

I AM STEPHEN A. SMITH AND THESE CHEESE DOODLES ARE DELICIOUS!!

 

This made me laugh out loud.

 

Oden #1. This has been obvious for at least four years now, and it's the correct decision for Portland. Congrats on your (future) NBA Championship, Portland.

[Guest]

YOU CAN'T TEACH 7 FEET. YOU REALLY CAN'T.

 

How many references for Stephen A. Smith's nose job will we hear today!?

[soccer10k]

Wait, so Seattle is getting the #2 and #5 picks in the draft? Holy cow.

[Exile on Waveland]

OK, I'm confused. Seattle would use the #5 in that trade scenario to pick Jeff Green? They're going to take two SF's in the top 5? They must think Durant is going to be a 4.

[DurbanJer]

what the heck kind of goofy trade was that for Boston? Ray Allen for the no. 5? Whoa

[ChiCubsFan]

Wait, so Seattle is getting the #2 and #5 picks in the draft? Holy cow.

 

Eh...the 5th pick wouldn't do much for me unless Horford or Conley is there...they want Jeff Green though...?

[Outshined_One]

what the heck kind of goofy trade was that for Boston? Ray Allen for the no. 5? Whoa

 

Was it Allen straight up for the #5?

 

Or was Theo Ratliff somehow involved?

[MidoreX]

what the heck kind of goofy trade was that for Boston? Ray Allen for the no. 5? Whoa

 

Danny Ainge = dumb.

 

Pierce and Allen are going to be fighting each other for the ball all year...

[Exile on Waveland]

Wait, so Seattle is getting the #2 and #5 picks in the draft? Holy cow.

 

Eh...the 5th pick wouldn't do much for me unless Horford or Conley is there...they want Jeff Green though...?

 

Yes, please explain this to me. I understand moving Ray Allen, but moving him to get another SF when they just picked Durant? I'm confused.

 

I'm also dubious about Allen and Pierce fitting -- though the East is a whole different story.

Edited June 28, 2007 by Exile on Waveland

[ChiCubsFan]

what the rumors with the teams picking 6, 7, and 8 (MIL, MIN, CHA)?

 

Probably Horford and Conley will go 3 and 4 and apparently Jeff Green 5th.

[soccer10k]

what the heck kind of goofy trade was that for Boston? Ray Allen for the no. 5? Whoa

 

Was it Allen straight up for the #5?

 

Or was Theo Ratliff somehow involved?

 

I know Delonte West is going to Seattle and there was one other player but I don't remember who it was.

[CubColtPacer]

what the heck kind of goofy trade was that for Boston? Ray Allen for the no. 5? Whoa

 

Was it Allen straight up for the #5?

 

Or was Theo Ratliff somehow involved?

 

I know Delonte West is going to Seattle and there was one other player but I don't remember who it was.

 

I think Wally is supposed to be the other player.

[Guest]

what the rumors with the teams picking 6, 7, and 8 (MIL, MIN, CHA)?

 

Probably Horford and Conley will go 3 and 4 and apparently Jeff Green 5th.

 

They'd be wise to hope that Horford or Conley drop, otherwise they should take Yi. Jeff Green makes no sense. :?

[Exile on Waveland]

what the heck kind of goofy trade was that for Boston? Ray Allen for the no. 5? Whoa

 

Was it Allen straight up for the #5?

 

Or was Theo Ratliff somehow involved?

 

I know Delonte West is going to Seattle and there was one other player but I don't remember who it was.

 

Wally Szczerbiak.