NCAA Tournament Thread - Round 2

[Andy]

*huge sigh*

 

Thank you Bruins.

[cubweiser03]

When was the last time a Big Ten team did not make the Sweet 16? When was the last time only ONE did? Turd is the Wurd.

[hawkeyecub]

Big Ten free throw attempts in the last 3 losses:

 

MSU- 5

George Mason- 26

 

Illinois- 11

Washington- 39

 

Indiana- 6

Gonzaga-41

 

I was too distraught to see the MSU game and most of the other two. Were the opponents really that much more aggressive? Were the Big 10 teams really playing that much more physically?

[rawaction]

Big Ten free throw attempts in the last 3 losses:

 

MSU- 5

George Mason- 26

 

Illinois- 11

Washington- 39

 

Indiana- 6

Gonzaga-41

 

I was too distraught to see the MSU game and most of the other two. Were the opponents really that much more aggressive? Were the Big 10 teams really playing that much more physically?

 

In Gonzaga's case it was more aggressive. But not that much more. Mallon and Morrison were hooking with the elbow consistently. They did a good job of not extending their arms though, so it never got called. The tech on Killer completely lost the game for IU. It didn't have to be done. Both teams were heated. The refs determined the outcome of the game by calling the tech on Marco. Marco should have never put himself in that situation, though.

[Flames24Rulz]

well my bracket is definitely done after going 3-5 today and losing 2 more Sweet 16 teams in Illinois and Indiana.

 

congrats to Dee and James for outstanding careers. Unfortunately, like everyone has mentioned, the refs decided to have their final game end in a game of one-sided ticky tack calls in favor of Washington. It really sucks that this is how it ended for them...

[baseball7897]

I was 7-1 today, the only loss I had today was the Illini game. Overall im 29-11. Go West Virginia, Texas, Memphis, Pittsburgh, Connecticut, North Carolina, Villanova and Ohio State.

[NCCubFan]

Don't you mean UK? :wink:

Reverse psychology. I'm picking UConn to jinx them so UK will win. :D

[Andy]

30-8 now. 4-4 today.

 

Five Sweet 16 teams down, but nothing further yet.

 

I should go 7-1 tomorrow. Should.

 

Picks:

 

West Virginia

California :oops:

Memphis

Pitt

UConn

UNC

Villanova

Ohio State

[Mark_R]

Was perfect today, putting me at 33-8 and a wide margin of a lead in the nsbb fantasy pick thingy on yahoo.

[NCCubFan]

Was perfect today, putting me at 33-8 and a wide margin of a lead in the nsbb fantasy pick thingy on yahoo.

So you're Dukie V. :D

[SouthSideRyan]

I really wish Enberg or Bilas would've said something during the game, it seemed like they were buying into the reffing. Glad to see no U of I fans voice their displeasure with the reffing here, it was honestly the worst officiated game I've ever seen. People have told me to get over it cause they weren't gonna beat UConn anyways, but that's so far off from the point. To see the season end like that is just flat out criminal. To have that feeling that your season was taken away from you is about as empty as you can possibly feel.

 

Couple quesitons: Since the game was on the West Coast were those Pac-10 refs?

 

Does anyone else think maybe before the tourney started refs were warned about the Big 10's physical style of play and that they should try and nip it in the bud before they got out of hand??

 

I'd just really love some sort of explanation for the absolute heist that's gone on here.

[Derwood]

Why am I not surprised to come on here and hear Illini fans rying about officiating?

 

 

/didn't see the game :wink:

[Derwood]

6-2 on Saturday, 26-14 overall.

 

I've lost 4 sweet 16 teams, but all Elite 8/Final 4 still intact

 

Sunday I picked:

 

Iowa (d'oh)

Texas

Bucknell

Kansas (d'oh)

UConn

UNC

Villanona

O$U

[Derwood]

In other Tourney news:

 

http://espn-att.starwave.com/media/ncb/2006/0318/photo/a_morrison_412.jpg

 

GAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

 

 

Congrats Morrison. When you go to the NBA, Steve Nash will no longer be the bufugliest white guy in the league...

[SouthSideRyan]

Why am I not surprised to come on here and hear Illini fans rying about officiating?

 

 

/didn't see the game :wink:

 

Yeah noted Illini fans CubsfaninCA and Outshined_One really let them have it.

[Derwood]

Why am I not surprised to come on here and hear Illini fans rying about officiating?

 

 

/didn't see the game :wink:

 

Yeah noted Illini fans CubsfaninCA and Outshined_One really let them have it.

 

it was a joke. relax. Enjoy the spring while you anticipate another fabulous Illini football campagin.

[sweetpeteman]

Man, I'm gonna miss the BU game... stupid flying back to school.

[rawaction]

In other Tourney news:

 

http://espn-att.starwave.com/media/ncb/2006/0318/photo/a_morrison_412.jpg

 

GAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

 

 

Congrats Morrison. When you go to the NBA, Steve Nash will no longer be the bufugliest white guy in the league...

 

Ratliff at 6'2" did an excellent job on the 6'8" Morrison. IU was really hurt by not being able to put a big body on Mallon. Also, whenever Errek Suhr was on the floor for IU, his man was able to score or create a score. I thought Davis did a poor job by giving him so much time.

[illiniguy]

Why am I not surprised to come on here and hear Illini fans rying about officiating?

 

 

/didn't see the game :wink:

 

Yeah noted Illini fans CubsfaninCA and Outshined_One really let them have it.

 

it was a joke. relax. Enjoy the spring while you anticipate another fabulous Illini football campagin.

Yeah enjoy the summer while the Cubs suck again. As the injuries start to pile up it really makes me happy Illinois got beaten out so soon.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Adam Morrison is THE ugliest player in division 1 basketball. Men or women.

[TruffleShuffle]

Does anyone else think maybe before the tourney started refs were warned about the Big 10's physical style of play and that they should try and nip it in the bud before they got out of hand??

 

This might be the worst myth I've ever heard. Which good Big 10 team is physical?

 

Illinois? No, they shot more than half their shots in last year's tourney behind the arc, and shot 130 more threes than their opponents this year, and fewer free throws than their opponents.

 

Indiana? No, I don't even remember the last good low-post presence they had. They've been very perimeter-oriented, going back to when they used Tom Coverdale's hot streak and great team 3-point shooting to run to the finals against Maryland. They shot 107 more threes than their opponents but fewer free throws.

 

Iowa? OK, they actually shot fewer threes and had a lot more free throws than their opponents. And this held true in the first round game as well.

 

Ohio State? Maybe, based on a big free throw differential, but they also took 40% of their shots from beyond the arc and launched more than 150 more threes than their opponents.

 

Michigan State? Possibly, b/c they had fewer threes and more free throws than their opponents. But they were ripped all year for being soft, at least around here.

 

Wisconsin? Their numbers are less skewed than in recent years, but I think you'd be hard-pressed to find anyone who watched them play the last few years and consider them a physical team with a big inside presence.

 

 

When I think of teams that are physical, I think of teams like UNC last year with Sean May, or Maryland with Lonny Baxter and Chris Wilcox, or UConn with Okafor, and Ben Gordon driving a lot, and Josh Boone and Rudy Gay. It's hard to name good big guys in the Big 10, or guys who are good slashers. Instead, you've got a lot of teams that live and die by the perimeter game. When I think of a hard-nosed conference, I probably think of the Big East first. The Big Ten doesn't seem particularly physical to me.

 

And if it makes anyone feel better, Ohio State and Iowa had the free throw edge on their first-round opponents by a large margin.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Does anyone else think maybe before the tourney started refs were warned about the Big 10's physical style of play and that they should try and nip it in the bud before they got out of hand??

 

This might be the worst myth I've ever heard. Which good Big 10 team is physical?

 

Illinois? No, they shot more than half their shots in last year's tourney behind the arc, and shot 130 more threes than their opponents this year, and fewer free throws than their opponents.

 

Indiana? No, I don't even remember the last good low-post presence they had. They've been very perimeter-oriented, going back to when they used Tom Coverdale's hot streak and great team 3-point shooting to run to the finals against Maryland. They shot 107 more threes than their opponents but fewer free throws.

 

Iowa? OK, they actually shot fewer threes and had a lot more free throws than their opponents. And this held true in the first round game as well.

 

Ohio State? Maybe, based on a big free throw differential, but they also took 40% of their shots from beyond the arc and launched more than 150 more threes than their opponents.

 

Michigan State? Possibly, b/c they had fewer threes and more free throws than their opponents. But they were ripped all year for being soft, at least around here.

 

Wisconsin? Their numbers are less skewed than in recent years, but I think you'd be hard-pressed to find anyone who watched them play the last few years and consider them a physical team with a big inside presence.

 

 

When I think of teams that are physical, I think of teams like UNC last year with Sean May, or Maryland with Lonny Baxter and Chris Wilcox, or UConn with Okafor, and Ben Gordon driving a lot, and Josh Boone and Rudy Gay. It's hard to name good big guys in the Big 10, or guys who are good slashers. Instead, you've got a lot of teams that live and die by the perimeter game. When I think of a hard-nosed conference, I probably think of the Big East first. The Big Ten doesn't seem particularly physical to me.

 

And if it makes anyone feel better, Ohio State and Iowa had the free throw edge on their first-round opponents by a large margin.

 

IMO, when you talk about physicality, the first thing that comes to mind is defense. Illinois and Iowa played great man D this year, MSU and Wisconsin are known for it(MSU was not as strong as they typically are, don't know about Wisconsin), plus Indiana and OSU are far from Gonzaga or West Virginia levels of defensive presence.

 

I don't know if it was specifically for the Big 10, but it's a possibility officials were instructed to call a tighter game, or make sure things didn't get out of hand, or however you want to phrase it, and that would definitely hurt the Big11Ten

[Derwood]

I think to even mention some sort of refereeing conspiracy against one conference is absurd

[CuseCubFan69]

I am now watching the Brad Pitt game.

[Derwood]

I am now watching the Brad Pitt game.

 

beat me to it. That is one of the funiest things I've seen in awhile