Cubs real close to getting Dunn (Shot down by Bruce Miles)

[back2backjax]

OK, I have something to report regarding the Cubs and Reds working out a possible deal for Adam Dunn. Before I post it, I just want to say that yes, I am a new poster here and this is my first post, and I know how a lot of times you will see people come on boards across the internet and report a false news item in order to get people's hopes up and then have a laugh at it. This is NOT my intention at all. I've been on the ESPN and Cubs.com boards and I know how annoying trolls can be when they do that kind of stuff...I would NEVER do that. So, let me proceed:

 

I have a friend who works for the Cincinnati Reds. This guy isn't exactly a high-ranking official for the Reds or anything like that, but he usually has access to information from the organization and I might add that he has been right on a few of the Reds moves in the past. He told me Austin Kearns would be demoted a few hours before it became official, and also knew about the Reds inking Joe Randa to a contact a day before that happened, so I consider him very reliable..he hasn't been wrong yet. I talked to him a couple hours ago, and I am so pumped because of what he told me, I could hardly believe it. He says he has heard that there is a deal between the Reds and Cubs that should be completed and should become official within the next 48 hours. Here is what the deal will be:

 

The Cubs get: Adam Dunn

The Reds get: Corey Patterson, Rich Hill, Sergio Mitre

 

Again, I know some people might not believe this since I'm a new poster, but I would NEVER make anything up like this, I just don't troll. If I end up being wrong, the mods can ban me if they feel the need to, but my source said he is certain this will go down, and he hasn't been wrong before, so there's no doubt in my mind it'll happen.

 

 

i may be stating what someone else already has, but i don't care to sift through the 10 pages of comments to find out.

 

i don't like the idea of dunn for cpatt, hill and mitre. dunn is just a notch above burnitz in that he is usually all or nothing. sure he takes more walks, but walks don't usually drive in runs. the cubs need a hitter in LF, not another slugger. the offense could be improved dramatically if a true hitter was added. by that i mean a guy who will do the little things at the plate like move a runner over to 3rd with a grounder to the right side, or get that same runner home from 3rd with less than two outs. or only hit .280 but come through in the clutch.

 

i also don't like the idea of trading mitre who has shown flashes of sheer brilliance. he could be a really good back of the rotation guy in a year or so. same for hill. LHP with that kind of breaking balls and velocity don't come along that often. everytime willis chalks up another win, i just cringe at that idea of repeating that mistake. given the arm problems wood and prior have experienced of late, and the fact that maddux will only be around for one more season, i'd prefer not to trade two good prospects for a high strikeout LF.

[XZero771679666304]

i think if the Reds balk on that, we should add Dopirak. We have our 1B for a very long time already in DLee, Dopirak probably would finish off the deal easily. I would like to get Kearns though if we have to send both Hill and Dopirak to Cincy.

 

If there is any truth to this rumor, it makes O'Brien's claim that Kearns is going nowhere a whole lot more believable. Kearns will be much cheaper for the Reds to keep, and they probably won't part with both Kearns and Dunn anyway.

[Flames24Rulz]

i think if the Reds balk on that, we should add Dopirak. We have our 1B for a very long time already in DLee, Dopirak probably would finish off the deal easily. I would like to get Kearns though if we have to send both Hill and Dopirak to Cincy.

 

If there is any truth to this rumor, it makes O'Brien's claim that Kearns is going nowhere a whole lot more believable. Kearns will be much cheaper for the Reds to keep, and they probably won't part with both Kearns and Dunn anyway.

 

yeah your probably right. So then if the Reds balk on just sending Patteson-Mitre-Hill to Cincy, i guess we could put Dope in there and i doubt they'd refuse that for just Dunn alone.

[chopsx9]

Firmly in the "this rumour is horse pucky" corner.

[badger1679666666]

OK, I have something to report regarding the Cubs and Reds working out a possible deal for Adam Dunn. Before I post it, I just want to say that yes, I am a new poster here and this is my first post, and I know how a lot of times you will see people come on boards across the internet and report a false news item in order to get people's hopes up and then have a laugh at it. This is NOT my intention at all. I've been on the ESPN and Cubs.com boards and I know how annoying trolls can be when they do that kind of stuff...I would NEVER do that. So, let me proceed:

 

I have a friend who works for the Cincinnati Reds. This guy isn't exactly a high-ranking official for the Reds or anything like that, but he usually has access to information from the organization and I might add that he has been right on a few of the Reds moves in the past. He told me Austin Kearns would be demoted a few hours before it became official, and also knew about the Reds inking Joe Randa to a contact a day before that happened, so I consider him very reliable..he hasn't been wrong yet. I talked to him a couple hours ago, and I am so pumped because of what he told me, I could hardly believe it. He says he has heard that there is a deal between the Reds and Cubs that should be completed and should become official within the next 48 hours. Here is what the deal will be:

 

The Cubs get: Adam Dunn

The Reds get: Corey Patterson, Rich Hill, Sergio Mitre

 

Again, I know some people might not believe this since I'm a new poster, but I would NEVER make anything up like this, I just don't troll. If I end up being wrong, the mods can ban me if they feel the need to, but my source said he is certain this will go down, and he hasn't been wrong before, so there's no doubt in my mind it'll happen.

 

 

i may be stating what someone else already has, but i don't care to sift through the 10 pages of comments to find out.

 

i don't like the idea of dunn for cpatt, hill and mitre. dunn is just a notch above burnitz in that he is usually all or nothing. sure he takes more walks, but walks don't usually drive in runs. the cubs need a hitter in LF, not another slugger. the offense could be improved dramatically if a true hitter was added. by that i mean a guy who will do the little things at the plate like move a runner over to 3rd with a grounder to the right side, or get that same runner home from 3rd with less than two outs. or only hit .280 but come through in the clutch.

 

i also don't like the idea of trading mitre who has shown flashes of sheer brilliance. he could be a really good back of the rotation guy in a year or so. same for hill. LHP with that kind of breaking balls and velocity don't come along that often. everytime willis chalks up another win, i just cringe at that idea of repeating that mistake. given the arm problems wood and prior have experienced of late, and the fact that maddux will only be around for one more season, i'd prefer not to trade two good prospects for a high strikeout LF.

 

Welcome to the Boards! There are two factions two this argument on this board.

 

The following will always be cited in every discussion:

 

High Strikeouts/High Walks

Low BA/High OBP

Too much All or nothing/.900+ OPS

 

That should have you prepared for any debates about Dunn.

[nikao]

i think if the Reds balk on that, we should add Dopirak. We have our 1B for a very long time already in DLee, Dopirak probably would finish off the deal easily. I would like to get Kearns though if we have to send both Hill and Dopirak to Cincy.

 

If there is any truth to this rumor, it makes O'Brien's claim that Kearns is going nowhere a whole lot more believable. Kearns will be much cheaper for the Reds to keep, and they probably won't part with both Kearns and Dunn anyway.

 

yeah your probably right. So then if the Reds balk on just sending Patteson-Mitre-Hill to Cincy, i guess we could put Dope in there and i doubt they'd refuse that for just Dunn alone.

 

While Dopirak isn't doing particularly well this year, I'd still balk at offering too many prospects. Lee could get hurt. He could get real expensive or take more money somehwere else. If nothing else, it's always nice to have a cheap, talented prospect in reserve if the need arises.

[XZero771679666304]

i think if the Reds balk on that, we should add Dopirak. We have our 1B for a very long time already in DLee, Dopirak probably would finish off the deal easily. I would like to get Kearns though if we have to send both Hill and Dopirak to Cincy.

 

If there is any truth to this rumor, it makes O'Brien's claim that Kearns is going nowhere a whole lot more believable. Kearns will be much cheaper for the Reds to keep, and they probably won't part with both Kearns and Dunn anyway.

 

yeah your probably right. So then if the Reds balk on just sending Patteson-Mitre-Hill to Cincy, i guess we could put Dope in there and i doubt they'd refuse that for just Dunn alone.

 

While Dopirak isn't doing particularly well this year, I'd still balk at offering too many prospects. Lee could get hurt. He could get real expensive or take more money somehwere else. If nothing else, it's always nice to have a cheap, talented prospect in reserve if the need arises.

 

Unless Dope really cranks it up, he won't be ready to help the big club anytime soon, and if he keeps going at his current pace, he never will. Either way, he's not a guy I would have any qualms about throwing into a trade for an impact player.

[Deeg]

Why would the Reds want another OF they have no room for? Especially a CF? Doesn't make sense to me. I hope its bogus, anyway - Hill should not be part of any deal.

[Roast]

Well, I just read through all eight pages. I am pretty sceptical.

 

But, As someone else pointed out. What he says is pretty much on par with what vance said. One Position player, one young pitcher, and a minor league pitching prospect.

 

Of course I suppose that could mean that he just read that, and reposted it. And Fanzone Trumpet, or whatever his name is (bad memory) doesnt have too sparkling of a review of this fellow.

 

All I can say is that, I HOPE this is right.

[Mad Ducks]

My biggest problem with Dunn is his defense....he makes Dubois look like a gold glover out there...

[XZero771679666304]

My biggest problem with Dunn is his defense....he makes Dubois look like a gold glover out there...

 

Dubois probably won't produce enough to compensate for his defense, Dunn does.

[Roast]

My biggest problem with Dunn is his defense....he makes Dubois look like a gold glover out there...

 

Its been brought up before. But seriously, defense in left is not that HUGE of a deal. They get like five chances a game. And when you can produce offensivley like he does. Wow. I couldnt care less.

[Electron Blue]

Well, I just read through all eight pages. I am pretty sceptical.

 

But, As someone else pointed out. What he says is pretty much on par with what vance said. One Position player, one young pitcher, and a minor league pitching prospect.

 

Of course I suppose that could mean that he just read that, and reposted it. And Fanzone Trumpet, or whatever his name is (bad memory) doesnt have too sparkling of a review of this fellow.

 

All I can say is that, I HOPE this is right.

 

The Fanzone Trumpet post kinda surprised me. It was pretty harsh of this sweetpotato guy. But why? Fanzone, are you just guessing, or do you know this first-time poster from another board? I don't Fanzone or Sweet, so for now I'll trust the starter of this thread because he's telling me what I want to hear :)

[minnesotacubsfan]

Why would the Reds want another OF they have no room for? Especially a CF? Doesn't make sense to me. I hope its bogus, anyway - Hill should not be part of any deal.

 

 

maybe the reds want to get rid of Jr.

[Chocolate Milk]

http://www.vnn.vn/dataimages/original/images400908_yancancookvn1.jpg

 

I will not beleive this trade until it is.....Dunn!

[Fanzones trumpet]

Well, I just read through all eight pages. I am pretty sceptical.

 

But, As someone else pointed out. What he says is pretty much on par with what vance said. One Position player, one young pitcher, and a minor league pitching prospect.

 

Of course I suppose that could mean that he just read that, and reposted it. And Fanzone Trumpet, or whatever his name is (bad memory) doesnt have too sparkling of a review of this fellow.

 

All I can say is that, I HOPE this is right.

 

The Fanzone Trumpet post kinda surprised me. It was pretty harsh of this sweetpotato guy. But why? Fanzone, are you just guessing, or do you know this first-time poster from another board? I don't Fanzone or Sweet, so for now I'll trust the starter of this thread because he's telling me what I want to hear :)

[XZero771679666304]

My biggest problem with Dunn is his defense....he makes Dubois look like a gold glover out there...

 

Its been brought up before. But seriously, defense in left is not that HUGE of a deal. They get like five chances a game. And when you can produce offensivley like he does. Wow. I couldnt care less.

 

Yeah, people didn't seem to mind how bad Moises was out there last year.

[Deeg]

Why would the Reds want another OF they have no room for? Especially a CF? Doesn't make sense to me. I hope its bogus, anyway - Hill should not be part of any deal.

 

 

maybe the reds want to get rid of Jr.

 

We know they do - have for years - and there are no takers for his contract. That's been discussed ad nauseum.

[JC]

http://www.vnn.vn/dataimages/original/images400908_yancancookvn1.jpg

 

I will not beleive this trade until it is.....Dunn!

 

http://timstvshowcase.com/emeril2.jpg

 

BAM!

[Roast]

Well, I just read through all eight pages. I am pretty sceptical.

 

But, As someone else pointed out. What he says is pretty much on par with what vance said. One Position player, one young pitcher, and a minor league pitching prospect.

 

Of course I suppose that could mean that he just read that, and reposted it. And Fanzone Trumpet, or whatever his name is (bad memory) doesnt have too sparkling of a review of this fellow.

 

All I can say is that, I HOPE this is right.

 

The Fanzone Trumpet post kinda surprised me. It was pretty harsh of this sweetpotato guy. But why? Fanzone, are you just guessing, or do you know this first-time poster from another board? I don't Fanzone or Sweet, so for now I'll trust the starter of this thread because he's telling me what I want to hear :)

 

Haha, yea. JC said it best, i think. He attached all the appropriate labels and such. So I will give him the benefit of the doubt. That beign said, I'm still pretty skeptical.

[Mad Ducks]

My biggest problem with Dunn is his defense....he makes Dubois look like a gold glover out there...

 

Its been brought up before. But seriously, defense in left is not that HUGE of a deal. They get like five chances a game. And when you can produce offensivley like he does. Wow. I couldnt care less.

 

Yeah, people didn't seem to mind how bad Moises was out there last year.

 

Moises wasn't that bad last year....

[Electron Blue]

Well, I just read through all eight pages. I am pretty sceptical.

 

But, As someone else pointed out. What he says is pretty much on par with what vance said. One Position player, one young pitcher, and a minor league pitching prospect.

 

Of course I suppose that could mean that he just read that, and reposted it. And Fanzone Trumpet, or whatever his name is (bad memory) doesnt have too sparkling of a review of this fellow.

 

All I can say is that, I HOPE this is right.

 

The Fanzone Trumpet post kinda surprised me. It was pretty harsh of this sweetpotato guy. But why? Fanzone, are you just guessing, or do you know this first-time poster from another board? I don't Fanzone or Sweet, so for now I'll trust the starter of this thread because he's telling me what I want to hear :)

 

I don't see your point (literally). Are you just saying that you doubt this poster because of the similarity to vance's scoop? Because earlier you called him out as a *troll* - which is a different, harsher accusation if it's not true. I just want to know if you're guessing that he's a troll, or if you know . . .

[Fanzones trumpet]

Well, I just read through all eight pages. I am pretty sceptical.

 

But, As someone else pointed out. What he says is pretty much on par with what vance said. One Position player, one young pitcher, and a minor league pitching prospect.

 

Of course I suppose that could mean that he just read that, and reposted it. And Fanzone Trumpet, or whatever his name is (bad memory) doesnt have too sparkling of a review of this fellow.

 

All I can say is that, I HOPE this is right.

 

The Fanzone Trumpet post kinda surprised me. It was pretty harsh of this sweetpotato guy. But why? Fanzone, are you just guessing, or do you know this first-time poster from another board? I don't Fanzone or Sweet, so for now I'll trust the starter of this thread because he's telling me what I want to hear :)

 

I know the pattern from previous false alarms; it's uncannily similar. In fact, I could have mentioned other things like the trade happening in 48 hours and the fellow claiming to be a regular poster on Cubs and ESPN who would NEVER troll.

[Roast]

My biggest problem with Dunn is his defense....he makes Dubois look like a gold glover out there...

 

Its been brought up before. But seriously, defense in left is not that HUGE of a deal. They get like five chances a game. And when you can produce offensivley like he does. Wow. I couldnt care less.

 

Yeah, people didn't seem to mind how bad Moises was out there last year.

 

Dunn > Moises. well,

 

Dunn > 2004 Moises.

 

This year his numbers are huge.

 

 

Also, K's are alot less annoying then slow grounders to short that turn into two outs.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

My biggest problem with Dunn is his defense....he makes Dubois look like a gold glover out there...

 

Its been brought up before. But seriously, defense in left is not that HUGE of a deal. They get like five chances a game. And when you can produce offensivley like he does. Wow. I couldnt care less.

 

Yeah, people didn't seem to mind how bad Moises was out there last year.

 

Moises wasn't that bad last year....

 

Yes, yes he was.