Cubs (Imanaga) vs Brewers (Ashby): 10/6/25, 8:08pm

[Irrelevant Dude]

1 minute ago, Rcal10 said:

How does a contract work in a lock out? Why should it matter if he got a short term deal with opt outs the first 3 years? Is he paid anyway, if he opts in? 

It's more the looming prospect of a salary cap, which presumably would reduce future contracts for guys like Tucker.  So get the money now while you can.

[Jason Ross]

1 minute ago, gflore34 said:

Won't the injury history serve as a big deterrent?

No. His injury history so far is:

Last year: fluke foul ball off the shin that was misdiagnosed by doctors
This year: A finger issue and a calf issue

Nothing is reoccurring. The closest thing to a red flag is a muscle injury to a calf, but like, who hasn't strained a calf before? 

No one is going to hide from that injury history. It isn't like he's been on the shelf for the same hammy 3 times since the Pandemic or something. 

[Jason Ross]

3 minutes ago, Rcal10 said:

How does a contract work in a lock out? Why should it matter if he got a short term deal with opt outs the first 3 years? Is he paid anyway, if he opts in? 

Because owners want a cap hard. Players are not going to risk entering FA back in a landscape where a cap could limit their earning potential. 

I can't ensure they'll get one. What I can say though is that if I was the guy who was hands down the best FA on the market like Tucker will be, I wouldn't be testing that theory. Take the bag now.

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

Just now, Irrelevant Dude said:

It's more the looming prospect of a salary cap, which presumably would reduce future contracts for guys like Tucker.  So get the money now while you can.

You're probably right. Red Sox, Yankees, Dodgers will all overpay on Tucker and not bat an eye, even the the injuries the past two years.

[Wilson A2000]

Did Dansby not run that out until the very end? 

[gflore34]

1 minute ago, NorthsideAvenger said:

Watching the Brewers get sent home by the Dodgers/Phillies will be fun.

It's going to be the Dodgers, thinking they're going to roll through everyone to another WS which really sucks.  They're a very bad match up for the Brewers all their starters are healthy, all feature velocity.  Even resident Brewers fan Matt has to admit the Dodgers are a bad match up.

[Dfan25]

And while the pitching has obviously sucked this series , the offense continues to be absolute dog horsefeathers as well as. 3 runs so far again . They played 5 games , They have scored under 4 runs each one . Very difficult to win like that .

Edited October 7, 2025 by Dfan25

[gflore34]

8 minutes ago, NorthsideAvenger said:

Watching the Brewers get sent home by the Dodgers/Phillies will be fun.

It's going to be the Dodgers, thinking they're going to roll through everyone to another WS which really sucks.  They're a very bad match up for the Brewers all their starters are healthy, all feature velocity.  Even resident Brewers fan Matt has to admit the Dodgers are a bad match up.

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

Just now, gflore34 said:

It's going to be the Dodgers, thinking they're going to roll through everyone to another WS which really sucks.  They're a very bad match up for the Brewers all their starters are healthy, all feature velocity.  Even resident Brewers fan Matt has to admit the Dodgers are a bad match up.

All the Dodgers had to do was move half their starters to the bullpen and now they're easily the best team and it's not really close.

[Irrelevant Dude]

What is with the camera angles on this broadcast?

Andrew Vaughn in the first inning either hit a routine fly ball to left field, or a 440 foot home run, but the cameraman sure didn't know which one it was.

Edited October 7, 2025 by Irrelevant Dude

[Rcal10]

I think if the owners push for a cap it is going to be a long lock out. Players do not want it. I am not sure we will see a salary cap. 

[gflore34]

Nice catch by PCA made it so easy and, you know what, there isn't a Brewer who could come remotely close to doing what PCA just did.  I'll take what I can.

[JHBulls]

Bit of an awkward silence in the booth. 

[Jason Ross]

Just now, Rcal10 said:

I think if the owners push for a cap it is going to be a long lock out. Players do not want it. I am not sure we will see a salary cap. 

I'm not sure we will either. It's going to be a tough battle. And really, a salary cap is going to hurt this game unless they do one like the NFL, but to do that, the MLB would have to lose their anti-trust exemption and that ain't happening. 

[Irrelevant Dude]

1 minute ago, Rcal10 said:

I think if the owners push for a cap it is going to be a long lock out. Players do not want it. I am not sure we will see a salary cap. 

I don't think it's really going to matter what the players want.

[chibears55]

2 minutes ago, Jason Ross said:

Because owners want a cap hard. Players are not going to risk entering FA back in a landscape where a cap could limit their earning potential. 

I can't ensure they'll get one. What I can say though is that if I was the guy who was hands down the best FA on the market like Tucker will be, I wouldn't be testing that theory. Take the bag now.

As far as the Cubs goes, i think theyll basically stay as is this offseason and not sign anyone of significant to a multi years deal, and depending on where theyre at in standings, unload the guys with expiring contracts at the deadline for prospects and basically go into the 2026 offseason with minimal guarenteed contracts for 2027 and beyond 

[Stratos]

14 minutes ago, Rcal10 said:

How does a contract work in a lock out? Why should it matter if he got a short term deal with opt outs the first 3 years? Is he paid anyway, if he opts in? 

Gets paid in a lockout but not if they strike i believe.  But Jason is right in that if you want to have a strong full season to prove worth a shortened one with a short Spring isn't it.

He doesn't want to opt out the 2nd year if preferred, he'll be 30.

He'll want a longterm deal with opt outs, not short term high AAV, at least in my opinion.

Edited October 7, 2025 by Stratos

[Wilson A2000]

5 minutes ago, Rcal10 said:

I think if the owners push for a cap it is going to be a long lock out. Players do not want it. I am not sure we will see a salary cap. 

There will be a cap...and a floor

[Jason Ross]

Just now, chibears55 said:

As far as the Cubs goes, i think theyll basically stay as is this offseason and not sign anyone of significant to a multi years deal, and depending on where theyre at in standings, unload the guys with expiring contracts at the deadline for prospects and basically go into the 2026 offseason with minimal guarenteed contracts for 2027 and beyond 

There will be next to no way they can accomplish that. They'll have to spend money this offseason if they don't extend Tucker. They can't go to the playoffs and lose to Milwaukee and optically spend less than they did (and they were well under the LT). There will be one, maybe two contracts signed that will extend past 2027. But they also lose most of their money after 2026. 

Tom Ricketts does care about his image. When he's about to be roasted he doesn't go to Cubs Con. He throws people under the bus. You can see how Hoyer speaks about how generous he is that reflected as well. Ricketts couldn't survive the media onslaught if they come in at a $180m payroll next year. 

I don't think they'll go on a spending spree. But they'll sign a decently sized contract or two. 

[squally1313]

We’re allowed to get out of situations like that without giving up runs?

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

I could see PTR shelling out for a pitcher. I know Horton and Steele are out, but the Cubs starters in the playoffs have been embarassing.

[Jason Ross]

1 minute ago, squally1313 said:

We’re allowed to get out of situations like that without giving up runs?

Only when down 4.

[Jason Ross]

Just now, Tangled Up in Plaid said:

I could see PTR shelling out for a pitcher. I know Horton and Steele are out, but the Cubs starters in the playoffs have been embarassing.

Yeah, I think Michael King is the guy I'd most bank on signing. 

[Irrelevant Dude]

2 minutes ago, Jason Ross said:

I don't think they'll go on a spending spree. But they'll sign a decently sized contract or two. 

One of those should probably be a Nico extension, but I'm not sure how the work stoppage might impact that decision.

[gflore34]

2 minutes ago, Jason Ross said:

There will be next to no way they can accomplish that. They'll have to spend money this offseason if they don't extend Tucker. They can't go to the playoffs and lose to Milwaukee and optically spend less than they did (and they were well under the LT). There will be one, maybe two contracts signed that will extend past 2027. But they also lose most of their money after 2026. 

Tom Ricketts does care about his image. When he's about to be roasted he doesn't go to Cubs Con. He throws people under the bus. You can see how Hoyer speaks about how generous he is that reflected as well. Ricketts couldn't survive the media onslaught if they come in at a $180m payroll next year. 

I don't think they'll go on a spending spree. But they'll sign a decently sized contract or two. 

I have to think they'll focus on starting pitching.