Cardinals (Fedde) vs Cubs (Boyd): 7/6/25, 5:10pm

[PeanutPunch33]

11-0 game and Palencia in the game? 

[DYMNO]

Palencia looks like a strong dude. 

[731.4life]

3 minutes ago, Jason Ross said:

Frankly, what the Rockies are doing right now might be worse.

I read a recent article on what the Rockies are doing to Chase Dollander, and it basically flies in the face of everything you would do for a power arm like Dollander. It's to the point where it's either gross incompetence or they're all going to get nailed for sports betting.

What are they doing with Chase that is different what he did at UT?

[Tim]

1 minute ago, PeanutPunch33 said:

11-0 game and Palencia in the game? 

He hasn't gotten much work the past few days and they have an off day tomorrow. Don't want him getting too rusty

[Geographyhater8888]

Lol CC waits until 9th inning up by 11 with 1 out to make a switch? Why not just let him start the inning?

Edited July 7, 2025 by Geographyhater8888

[bukie]

2 minutes ago, PeanutPunch33 said:

11-0 game and Palencia in the game? 

Hasn't pitched since Wednesday and no game tomorrow. Wouldn't want him to get no use for 6 days.

[JHBulls]

1 minute ago, PeanutPunch33 said:

11-0 game and Palencia in the game? 

CC horsefeathers himself last time he brought in a position pitcher to pitch and then made a call to the bullpen a pitch before the 3rd out was recorded with an 8 run lead.
 

He doesn’t want a repeat of that. 

[DYMNO]

W

[bukie]

2 minutes ago, Geographyhater8888 said:

Lol CC waits until 9th inning up by 11 with 1 out to make a switch?

Wicks was probably on a pitch count for today. Threw 41 pitches.

[Nolansomebody]

[PeanutPunch33]

Very stress free game.  More of this please.  Fedde absolutely blows lol 

[BigSlick]

Shoulda been a sweep but I’ll always take a series win 

[Jason Ross]

Just now, 731.4life said:

What are they doing with Chase that is different what he did at UT?

So, there's a pretty obvious understanding in MLB now a days that power fastball / slower curve is a bad combo. Think...Ben Brown. His "deathball"/knuckle curveball gets thrown 90mph or so. Dollander, about a month ago, begun leaning super heavy into the curve, and it worked...for a bit. Lately he's getting crushed. Likely? hitters weren't expecting it, because...why would you do that? Then they got ready for it. 

Problem with slow-curve (80 mph or so) and mid 90's fastball is that hitters can usually pick up the velo drop on the two pitches easily. And go figure, MLB teams are not biting on the curve at all once they updated the scouting report. Even worse; Coors affects breaking balls and their movement. 

He's also using sinker, almost exclusively, to lefties. Sinkers have bad R-L splits. It's a pitch you throw to like-hand, not opposite hand.

You either speed the curve up and go "deathball" or you use his arm angle (he's very flat) to create natural cut to get lefties and go slider/sweeper heavy to play off of it. He has a great slider! 

It's all just bad pitching development.

[chibears55]

9 minutes ago, Jason Ross said:

I would literally bet every penny I have that 29 MLB organizations look at predictive models to determine these things. Do I think it's *exactly* the data I used? Probably not, teams have all sorts of proprietary things. But they're using predictive data to look beyond "results". The Cubs traded for Michael Busch despite how poorly he had done at the MLB level, for example. His "results". I would guarantee they looked at his processes from the MiLB and determined whether or not they would translate. 

I say 29 organizations because I do not know what data the Colorado Rockies use, but it isn't anything good. They're likely the worst run org in professional sports.

Look, my original post was just about how Happ has been struggling the last month and that he shouldn't be leading off now.

Im just not buying what you're selling that the results of his last 100+ AB has been the result of simply bad luck.

[WhyCantWeWin]

8 hours ago, WhyCantWeWin said:

Should be an easy win

Was an easy win

[bukie]

Nice 5-1 homestand against playoff contenders where the Cubs outscored their opponents 41-17.

[NorthsideAvenger]

Beat the Cards is always a good fun.

Smashing the Cards on national television is just so damn beautiful. 

 

[PeanutPunch33]

10 minutes ago, Jason Ross said:

Frankly, what the Rockies are doing right now might be worse.

I read a recent article on what the Rockies are doing to Chase Dollander, and it basically flies in the face of everything you would do for a power arm like Dollander. Any team in baseball would probably be able to diagnose this, except the Rockies are incapable. It's to the point where it's either gross incompetence or they're all going to get nailed for sports betting.

That team needs to build a new stadium in a dome or something lol

Every year, seems like all their pitchers have an ERA north of 6.  It has to suck being a Rockies fan.  

[chibears55]

7 minutes ago, PeanutPunch33 said:

11-0 game and Palencia in the game? 

With off day tomorrow got to get him into a game to stay fresh.

 

[Donzo]

2 minutes ago, bukie said:

Wicks was probably on a pitch count for today. Threw 41 pitches.

He went 5 innings last Sunday for Iowa, so he was OK. I think they just wanted to give Palencia some work.

[chibears55]

4 minutes ago, bukie said:

Wicks was probably on a pitch count for today. Threw 41 pitches.

Yep, used this opportunity like a bullpen day for him and he should be ready to start Friday.

[We Got The Whole 9]

1 hour ago, Jason Ross said:

What is "lmao" about that? We have plenty of ability to parse data. You're using batting average, but not using things like BABIP and his batted ball data to determine whether it's earned or not. His BA on the season entering the game was .231 compared to his xBA which was .255. That is a .32 point spread. His career BABIP is .308 while his BABIP this year was .274; a .28 point spread. See how close those two things are? His career wOBA is .340 and his xWOBA is .343. Again, notice how close they are?

There is plenty of data to support my point here. Please, defend yours more than a dismissing "lmao" and we can discuss it further.

 

He did say English teacher, not math, guys

[bukie]

Just now, Donzo said:

He went 5 innings last Sunday for Iowa, so he was OK. I think they just wanted to give Palencia some work.

If that were the only factor they'd just have used him for the entire 9th. Seems like they wanted Wicks to hit a specific count, then get Palencia a few tosses.

[JHBulls]

9 minutes ago, bukie said:

Even Kris Bryant sees this.

“It’s like, ‘Oh shoot, I need to get there,’” Bryant said in the story. “There were other teams interested, but I didn’t want to wait around. … It was a completely different situation for a lot of free agents at the time. I guess I didn’t do as much research into the prospects as I could.”

KB said that only two years into signing his 7 year deal with the Rockies. At least Jason Heyward liked Chicago when he sucked. 

[PeanutPunch33]

2 minutes ago, chibears55 said:

With off day tomorrow got to get him into a game to stay fresh.

 

This will be a fun road trip I hope.  3 vs the Twins while the Brewers have to face the Dodgers