Cardinals (Fedde) vs Cubs (Boyd): 7/6/25, 5:10pm

[PeanutPunch33]

This offense will be even more insane when we get Suarez 

[chibears55]

21 minutes ago, Derwood said:

The results were not fine, though. "doing everything right" does not mean that the results were good. This is a results-based game. I'm not saying Happ needs to do things differently, but let's not get buried in the analysis to the point where we're giving a player credit for what statistically SHOULD have happened rather than what DID happen

Exactly this..

These stats are more about would of could of and bad luck..

So it kinda like saying if the position player wasn't standing here or there the ball would of dropped in.

At the end of the day, these players get paid based on results not how much bad luck they had because a ball they hit was fielded by a player who was positioned right.

 

[Derwood]

6 minutes ago, Tim said:

Over his last 147 PA, Happ has a wRC+ of 112.

He's been fine.

Having 9 of your 25 hits be HR's certainly helps

[InSeungHo]

This is a good outing for Wicks. 

[chibears55]

24 minutes ago, gocubs218 said:

Wicks will still be in line to take Taillon’s next start on Friday with normal rest. Guessing they wanted to get him a couple innings of non-leverage work so he doesn’t have 12 days off or whatever between starts. 

This...

[Derwood]

To be clear, I am not arguing from the same POV as chibears55. I don't think advanced stats are 'funky' or 'weird'

[CUBDOM4life]

Ok. I’m gonna go ahead and get excited to see what Wicks does for us in the second half of this season. I did not know he could touch 96

[Tim]

1 minute ago, Derwood said:

Having 9 of your 25 hits be HR's certainly helps

Yes. It does. It means his been fine even when the balls in play haven't hit turf.

[chibears55]

2 minutes ago, Jason Ross said:

At this point? No idea. Last I checked he had a 9 wRC+. It's in like 30 PA's, but at this point, I don't really care.

Bad luck 😅😅😅

Sorry, had too.  Lol

[Tim]

2 minutes ago, chibears55 said:

Exactly this..

These stats are more about would of could of and bad luck..

So it kinda like saying if the position player wasn't standing here or there the ball would of dropped in.

At the end of the day, these players get paid based on results not how much bad luck they had because a ball they hit was fielded by a player who was positioned right.

 

wRC+ is all about what happened. And he's been well above average for the past month+.

[BKHoo]

6 minutes ago, Jason Ross said:

Hit 96, too.

His fast ball looks more crisp tonight for sure. 

[Jason Ross]

11 minutes ago, chibears55 said:

Im not gonna argue..

Most of these new age stats are based on would of, could of, and we'll just call it bad luck.

We all know the bottom line is the results and his results hasn't been all that great the last month or so despite these weird stats of would of, could of bad luck.

A handful of games of bad luck of some balls dropping here and there ok, but we're far pass that now.

So, we can leave this as we both have different views on a struggling player. You can go with the funky stats, ill stick with shows actual results.

I'll also add in that i doubt any GM looks at those type of stats when it comes to a FA or paying a guy over what their actual results were.

I would literally bet every penny I have that 29 MLB organizations look at predictive models to determine these things. Do I think it's *exactly* the data I used? Probably not, teams have all sorts of proprietary things. But they're using predictive data to look beyond "results". The Cubs traded for Michael Busch despite how poorly he had done at the MLB level, for example. His "results". I would guarantee they looked at his processes from the MiLB and determined whether or not they would translate. 

I say 29 organizations because I do not know what data the Colorado Rockies use, but it isn't anything good. They're likely the worst run org in professional sports.

[bukie]

Another stat I think is hilarious: There are 65 position players in baseball with a current fWAR of 2 or more. The Cubs have seven of them (PCA, Tucker, Busch, Suzuki, Hoerner, Kelly, Swanson). The Brewers just got their first (Frelick).

[Geographyhater8888]

What a series by Busch 

[BKHoo]

Just now, Jason Ross said:

I say 29 organizations because I do not know what data the Colorado Rockies use, but it isn't anything good. They're likely the worst run org in professional sports.

After Snyder sold the Commanders - I agree. 

[JHBulls]

6 minutes ago, Jason Ross said:

At this point? No idea. Last I checked he had a 9 wRC+. It's in like 30 PA's, but at this point, I don't really care.

I wonder if Dansby Swanson has a higher wRC+ with RISP? 
 

… I know it would be a lot higher. I am just being stupid.

[JHBulls]

6 minutes ago, Jason Ross said:

At this point? No idea. Last I checked he had a 9 wRC+. It's in like 30 PA's, but at this point, I don't really care.

I wonder if Dansby Swanson has a higher wRC+ with RISP? 
 

… I know it would be a lot higher. I am just being stupid.

[DYMNO]

1 minute ago, Jason Ross said:

I say 29 organizations because I do not know what data the Colorado Rockies use, but it isn't anything good. They're likely the worst run org in professional sports.

This was the levity I’m here for. 

[BKHoo]

1 minute ago, Geographyhater8888 said:

What a series by Busch 

9-12 !!!!

[Tim]

When we go by team ERA, the Cubs are 14th in baseball. 0.03 behind Milwaukee at 12th. 3.83 vs 3.80.

[Jason Ross]

2 minutes ago, BKHoo said:

After Snyder sold the Commanders - I agree. 

Frankly, what the Rockies are doing right now might be worse.

I read a recent article on what the Rockies are doing to Chase Dollander, and it basically flies in the face of everything you would do for a power arm like Dollander. Any team in baseball would probably be able to diagnose this, except the Rockies are incapable. It's to the point where it's either gross incompetence or they're all going to get nailed for sports betting.

[bukie]

3 minutes ago, Jason Ross said:

I say 29 organizations because I do not know what data the Colorado Rockies use, but it isn't anything good. They're likely the worst run org in professional sports.

Even Kris Bryant sees this.

[bukie]

Man, it's like the Cubs offense just stopped trying after they went up 11 after 5.

[KCCub]

19 minutes ago, chibears55 said:

I'll also add in that i doubt any GM looks at those type of stats when it comes to a FA or paying a guy over what their actual results were.

This has to be a troll at this point right? Right???

[JHBulls]

Just now, BKHoo said:

9-12 !!!!

Michael Busch’s 9-12 this series will probably be a better hitting 3 game series than any player will manage at Busch Stadium all year lol.