General Offseason Priorities

[LBiittner]

Bleacher report 

Kerry Miller

Don't know if he's a credible

[LBiittner]

2 hours ago, thawv said:

I know opinion articles mean nothing, but here's something.  Talking 2/30 deal.

https://www.si.com/mlb/cubs/news/tomoyuki-sugano-predicted-to-sign-with-chicago-cubs-in-free-agency

Sorry thawv, I posted before I saw your post

[Post Count Padder]

Ethan Roberts collects cards and was doing a live video last night and said he feels pretty sure Bellinger stays put so there you have it. 

[thawv]

13 hours ago, LBiittner said:

Sorry thawv, I posted before I saw your post

Not a big deal.  This does however sound like a Jed signing.  A player that won't have a lot of interest, while being on a short deal. 

[Jason Ross]

Kerry Miller isn't reporting anything. He just said that Sugano would sign a 2 year, $30m deal "possibly with Imanaga and the Chicago Cubs". Possibly is doing a ton of work. 

[chibears55]

20 hours ago, Bertz said:

Anyone have an actual link to something having the Cubs being tied to Sugano, much less being favorites to sign him?  As far as I can tell we just have "Jed visited Japan" and "It feels like a Jed move" and that's it?

https://www.si.com/mlb/cubs/news/tomoyuki-sugano-predicted-to-sign-with-chicago-cubs-in-free-agency

 

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/mlb/chicago-cubs/news/cubs-predicted-land-another-japanese-star-join-shota-imanaga-rotation/e429cfbb79d959e9d24c2043

[Bertz]

9 minutes ago, chibears55 said:

https://www.si.com/mlb/cubs/news/tomoyuki-sugano-predicted-to-sign-with-chicago-cubs-in-free-agency

 

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/mlb/chicago-cubs/news/cubs-predicted-land-another-japanese-star-join-shota-imanaga-rotation/e429cfbb79d959e9d24c2043

You understand that both of these are linking to the same guy, right?  And that the original guy was predicting Sugano to the Cubs, not reporting a rumor or claiming any sort of intent?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Bad aggregators aggregating a bad aggregator's unsourced FA predictions, phenomenal stuff

[LBiittner]

We want facts dammit

[We Got The Whole 9]

17 minutes ago, Bertz said:

You understand that both of these are linking to the same guy, right?  And that the original guy was predicting Sugano to the Cubs, not reporting a rumor or claiming any sort of intent?

No he doesn't 

[Bull]

On 10/9/2024 at 3:27 PM, Rcal10 said:

I am also in on this idea. Even if everyone plays all year without an injury, if yiu have 9 guys for 8 positions all can play around 140 games. That works for me. 

The versatility on this roster is ridiculous.

[harmony]

On 10/4/2024 at 9:15 AM, Cuzi said:

Seattle doesn't need an outfielder, so the chances are probably pretty damn close to 0, maybe even negative. Not sure how Kirby comes out to lesser value than Miller or Woo, either.

If the Mariners are moving a pitcher, it's probably 1) trying to convince Luis Castillo to waive his NTC 1 year before he doesn't have it any more, 2A) Woo, 2B) Miller.

Would anyone trade three years of Isaac Paredes, with a projected 2025 salary of $5.25 million, for three years of Seattle righthander Luis Castillo at about $74 million?

[Jason Ross]

14 minutes ago, harmony said:

Would anyone trade three years of Isaac Paredes, with a projected 2025 salary of $5.25 million, for three years of Seattle righthander Luis Castillo at about $74 million?

I would not. Parades is a good, borderline, very good player. He didn't hit for a ton of power with the Cubs but was hurt, reportedly. He's a 3 win guy and at a position of need.

[Bertz]

There is essentially zero chance Paredes gets traded this winter.  Going out and getting him in July was a signal that:

A) They did not want to rely on internal options.  Option really, as Shaw is the only guy even vaguely viable

B) They did not want to be Bregman or bust this winter.  And let's be real, the 3B market this winter is basically just Bregman and some bench players.

Before anyone gets any wacky "Sign Bregman and then trade Paredes!" ideas, the timing is very unlikely to be viable.  Bregman being a Boras client means the over under on his signing date is approximately MLK Day.  Very tough to count on having post signing runway to work out a trade.

[squally1313]

I'm still stuck on the idea that a Paredes should basically be the uniquely essential target of the Astro's offseason (cheap, the porch is made for him, Bregman is gone and they don't have anyone else), and it's worth at least seeing how much they'd be willing to overpay for him (especially given that they have one of those game changing bats in right field). But otherwise, yeah, slot him in at third. 

[Joj]

Acquiring Paredes was an admission that it was a position of extreme need and wanted to make it seem like they were actually trying to add talent.  But it also meant that they are still trying to fool everybody into thinking another cheap, mediocre journeyman is a potential superstar.  Having Isaac Paredes around as filler isn't the worst thing in the world, unless they use him as an excuse to continue ignoring the obvious offensive need. 

.240 with 20 Hr's is probably fine if you like 80 wins.  The batting eye makes him attractive as a bench/platoon type.  I thought he was a better player in the minors (less HR, better hitting)

I can't see Paredes netting anything worthwhile in trade.

 

[17 Seconds]

paredes is a solid starter and we shouldn't judge players solely on their short time here. I still see a lot of people also complain about not re-signing castellanos, it's crazy

[We Got The Whole 9]

Mediocre journeyman lmfao

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Over the past 2 years, Paredes is 3rd in 3B wRC+ and 4th in fWAR, he's also the youngest of the very good 3Bs.  Calling him filler is an unserious opinion.

[Jason Ross]

29 minutes ago, Joj said:

Acquiring Paredes was an admission that it was a position of extreme need and wanted to make it seem like they were actually trying to add talent.  But it also meant that they are still trying to fool everybody into thinking another cheap, mediocre journeyman is a potential superstar.  Having Isaac Paredes around as filler isn't the worst thing in the world, unless they use him as an excuse to continue ignoring the obvious offensive need. 

.240 with 20 Hr's is probably fine if you like 80 wins.  The batting eye makes him attractive as a bench/platoon type.  I thought he was a better player in the minors (less HR, better hitting)

I can't see Paredes netting anything worthwhile in trade.

 

How is Parades a journeyman? He's 25 and while he's been dealt a few times, it's not because he's someone who signs for a year and then bolts elsewhere. The Rays won 99 games last year with Parades as their 3b, so clearly this "80 win" thing is not really true, very good teams have had him be their primary 3b. He's been the 11th best 3b in baseball over the last three seasons. He's short of being a superstar or even a perennial all-star. But he's a borderline all-star type talent. 

This is just a wildly out of touch take on Parades. 

[mul21]

6 minutes ago, Transmogrified Tiger said:

Over the past 2 years, Paredes is 3rd in 3B wRC+ and 4th in fWAR, he's also the youngest of the very good 3Bs.  Calling him filler is an unserious opinion.

Have you read most of this dude's posts?  He's incredibly unserious.

[squally1313]

24 minutes ago, TomtheBombadil said:

Even still, since IIRC this plan calls for Tucker, would prefer a prospect oriented deal…Much prefer moving Hoerner if they were to move a starting infielder, and even then it seems soon unless the Mariners were moving a Gilbert or Kirby 

Yeah this is more me just being weirdly laser focused on Paredes in Houston. 26 projected home runs in that ballpark this past year vs 13 in Wrigley. This isn't to disparage Paredes (though, candidly, I still have a lot of 'well, the Rays traded him for a terrible player, and the Rays are smart, so...'). Yes, Tucker would be the dream (and maybe wouldn't be enough get Paredes straight up?), but like....they've got Caratini and Diaz both putting up above average offensive numbers behind the plate. There's a laundry list of injured arms that used to be good/could still be good. 

I'm done harping on it after this because I've thrown it out there enough and been mostly ignored, which is fine. I just feel like Houston would have to love the idea of him at third.

[Rob]

We all know why people want Sean Murphy...

[chibears55]

On 10/13/2024 at 11:09 AM, Bertz said:

You understand that both of these are linking to the same guy, right?  And that the original guy was predicting Sugano to the Cubs, not reporting a rumor or claiming any sort of intent?

Ok but you'd think if the Sporting News and Sports Illustrated are printing it then it might have some validation to it as a rumor, No ?

🤷‍♂️

[chibears55]

1 hour ago, 17 Seconds said:

paredes is a solid starter and we shouldn't judge players solely on their short time here. I still see a lot of people also complain about not re-signing castellanos, it's crazy

He had a down season overall, not just as a cub.

He has had 3 complete seasons now with 380, 570, and 640 PA. Out of the 3 he has had one good season in 2023. 

Theyll probably keep him with hopes he can bounce back to more of 2023 form, but like I've been saying, IF adding offensive help is a priority for Hoyer this offseason he has two choices.  He'll either have to make a trade or two moving a regular to make room, or those additions will have to come from upgrading the bench.