In-Season Trades and Transactions

[JD94]

I really don’t know where to post trade reports. Every thread is littered with some type of trade convo, even the game thread lol 

[KCCub]

24 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

It's not exactly the same, but this isn't all that far off from the Cubs trading Taillon+Leiter+Tauchmann. If Jed got the same return the WSox got, I would be so pissed off.

I get what you're trying to say, but really those three aren't close to the three the Sox gave up. And each team is going to have different priorities on return (Near ready vs lotto tickets). 

Leiter at 2.5 years of control 1.3 fWAR this season (1.9 total counting last season) > Kopech 1.5 years of control -.2 fWAR this season (-1.1 counting last season)

Tauchman (104 wRC+) 2.5 years of control vs 36 year old rental Pham (102 wRC+)

And then Fedde vs Taillon. I'm not as high on Fedde as it appears most folks in the twitter world is. He was basically worth a little over 1 fWAR his previous 6 year big league stint. He did make changes after his year in the KBO and so far he's been solid (xERA 3.77, xFIP 3.96). Do I buy he's that guy again next year when he currently doesn't get a ton of whiffs or chase, no I really don't. Especially if you factor in a more bullish offensive environment next year. 

Part of me thinks they could of done a little better in their prospect haul, but also part of me thinks they just turned a short term project who they signed from the KBO into 5/6 years (I don't know how much control Vargas has since he's been up and down a few times) of Miguel Vargas and two ascending young prospects from the Dodgers farm who probably slot in close to the Sox top 10. 

Here's to hoping there's regression coming Fedde's way. 

[WhyCantWeWin]

 

[Tryptamine]

Really does look like Taillon stays with the Cubs, which I'm completely fine with.

[Post Count Padder]

How high is Vargas' stock still bc this looks like an underpay for both LA and the Cardinals. 

[squally1313]

31 minutes ago, WhyCantWeWin said:

 

*Looks at Cortes' FG page for 3 seconds*

Sure, add him to the stable of starters.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Not sure why so many people are thinking the Cardinals made out like bandits in their deal, they probably gave up the best player of anyone.  At a minimum Edman is similar value to Fedde and more likely provides a fair amount more value over the next 1.5 years.  Pham doesn't really move the needle either as he's a league average bat and world class lunatic at this stage in his career.

[KCCub]

1 minute ago, Transmogrified Tiger said:

Not sure why so many people are thinking the Cardinals made out like bandits in their deal, they probably gave up the best player of anyone.  At a minimum Edman is similar value to Fedde and more likely provides a fair amount more value over the next 1.5 years.  Pham doesn't really move the needle either as he's a league average bat and world class lunatic at this stage in his career.

Exactly! It was a smart move on the Cardinals part because they have a young cornerstone SS and a surplus of OFers. But Edman was the best player in the deal!

[KCCub]

 

[Bertz]

Their top pitching prospect....

[KCCub]

43 minutes ago, Bertz said:

Their top pitching prospect....

 

 

[JD94]

Man I wish we could pull off a Vladdy trade since the Jays are selling 

[NorthsideAvenger]

WS got hosed and the Cards got two productive players for an injured player?

Geez. Does Getz hate the White Sox?

[Post Count Padder]

Getz played for the Royals. It was an inside job. 

[731.4life]

Goodness, I'm tired of seeing the Braves trade for Soler. They both Soler and Duvall again.

[LBiittner]

Braves picked up all of solers remaining contract. 25&26 for $28million 

[CubinNY]

9 hours ago, NorthsideAvenger said:

WS got hosed and the Cards got two productive players for an injured player?

Geez. Does Getz hate the White Sox?

The team that won that trade by far is the Dodgers. 

[JD94]

Deadline in 6 today. Excited to see all the moves. 
 

Nightengale saying Crochet likely goes today but Robert doesn’t. 

[Outshined_One]

10 hours ago, NorthsideAvenger said:

WS got hosed and the Cards got two productive players for an injured player?

Geez. Does Getz hate the White Sox?

This trade makes one thing obvious: Tony LaRussa still runs the White Sox.

[Rcal10]

Cubs have to move someone or multiple people today. They may be over the LT with the couple of moves they did make. It makes zero sense to be over this year. I couldn’t care less who the get back for someone like Bellinger, Smyly or Neris, but I think one has to go. Maybe Merryweather and/or Lieter as well. They need to dump some salary somewhere, I believe. 

[WhyCantWeWin]

7 minutes ago, Rcal10 said:

Cubs have to move someone or multiple people today. They may be over the LT with the couple of moves they did make. It makes zero sense to be over this year. I couldn’t care less who the get back for someone like Bellinger, Smyly or Neris, but I think one has to go. Maybe Merryweather and/or Lieter as well. They need to dump some salary somewhere, I believe. 

Plan is to be over the tax by the smallest amount so they can use it as an excuse not to spend big. Pay the smallest lux tax they can. 

[jersey cubs fan]

7 minutes ago, Rcal10 said:

Cubs have to move someone or multiple people today. They may be over the LT with the couple of moves they did make. It makes zero sense to be over this year. I couldn’t care less who the get back for someone like Bellinger, Smyly or Neris, but I think one has to go. Maybe Merryweather and/or Lieter as well. They need to dump some salary somewhere, I believe. 

Really? Paredes makes 3.4m and Pearson the minimum. Were they really all that close to the cap? Don’t they only take on 1.2 from Paredes? 

[Irrelevant Dude]

5 minutes ago, jersey cubs fan said:

Really? Paredes makes 3.4m and Pearson the minimum. Were they really all that close to the cap?

I don't know exactly where they stand, but I was under the impression they were already likely to be SLIGHTLY over even before the Paredes move.

[jersey cubs fan]

12 minutes ago, Irrelevant Dude said:

I don't know exactly where they stand, but I was under the impression they were already likely to be SLIGHTLY over even before the Paredes move.

That’s some seriously weird roster building if true. Classic Jed half measures 

[Tryptamine]

2 hours ago, JD94 said:

Deadline in 6 today. Excited to see all the moves. 
 

Nightengale saying Crochet likely goes today but Robert doesn’t. 

I'd almost be surprised if Crochet is moved after this demand for an extension if a team wants him to pitch in October. At the very least I'd think it would impact the package teams will give up if they then have to pay him too.