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1 hour ago, LBiittner said:

If I recall Chris archer in that deal was a sort of win for Tampa? But at least we were able to sniff Garza sweat thru the tv

Yeah, we lost that one handily. I just wanted to make a Hak-Ju Lee joke, since this board thought he was the next coming.

We received:

  • Matt Garza (6.5 fWAR)
  • Fernando Perez (0.0)
  • Zac Rosscup (-0.6)

Garza was later traded for

  • Mike Olt (-0.6)
  • Neil Ramirez (1.0)
  • Carl Edwards Jr. (2.6)
  • Justin Grimm (1.7)

We flipped Carl for Brad Wieck (0.5 fWAR), but nobody else got us anything of note when they departed.

At any rate, all that adds up to 10.8 fWAR.

Meanwhile, we gave up:

  • Chris Archer (18.7)
  • Sam Fuld (1.8)
  • Hak-Ju Lee (0.0)
  • Brandon Guyer (4.6)
  • Robinson Chirinos (-0.6)

Archer was later traded for:

  • Tyler Glasnow (9.8)
  • Austin Meadows (5.8)
  • Shane Baz (0.4)

Glasnow and Manuel Margot were traded to the Dodgers for:

  • Ryan Pepiot (1.3)
  • Jonny DeLuca (-0.2)

Meadows was traded to the Tigers for:

  • Issac Paredes (9.6)
  • Competitive Balance Round B pick in the 2022 draft (Ryan Cermak)

So all in all, we got 10.8 fWAR out of the trade. So far, the Rays have turned what we gave them into 51.2 fWAR. Granted, a good chunk of that comes from them later fleecing the Pirates and Tigers rather than coming directly from us.

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6 minutes ago, Rob said:

Yeah, we lost that one handily. I just wanted to make a Hak-Ju Lee joke, since this board thought he was the next coming.

We received:

  • Matt Garza (6.5 fWAR)
  • Fernando Perez (0.0)
  • Zac Rosscup (-0.6)

Garza was later traded for

  • Mike Olt (-0.6)
  • Neil Ramirez (1.0)
  • Carl Edwards Jr. (2.6)
  • Justin Grimm (1.7)

We flipped Carl for Brad Wieck (0.5 fWAR), but nobody else got us anything of note when they departed.

At any rate, all that adds up to 10.8 fWAR.

Meanwhile, we gave up:

  • Chris Archer (18.7)
  • Sam Fuld (1.8)
  • Hak-Ju Lee (0.0)
  • Brandon Guyer (4.6)
  • Robinson Chirinos (-0.6)

Archer was later traded for:

  • Tyler Glasnow (9.8)
  • Austin Meadows (5.8)
  • Shane Baz (0.4)

Glasnow and Manuel Margot were traded to the Dodgers for:

  • Ryan Pepiot (1.3)
  • Jonny DeLuca (-0.2)

Meadows was traded to the Tigers for:

  • Issac Paredes (9.6)
  • Competitive Balance Round B pick in the 2022 draft (Ryan Cermak)

So all in all, we got 10.8 fWAR out of the trade. So far, the Rays have turned what we gave them into 51.2 fWAR. Granted, a good chunk of that comes from them later fleecing the Pirates and Tigers rather than coming directly from us.

Wow. Thanks for all the work put into this. That's a fun exercise, kinda mlb version of 6 degrees of kevin bacon, lol.

But seriously that might be fun to trace the lineage of different cub players with values. I'm might try this on a snowy winter afternoon. 

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Doesn't seem likely that they would go after both Eflin and Jamo right?

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The Orioles are acquiring right-hander Zach Eflin from the Rays, per Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic on X. The Rays will receive three prospects in the deal, per Jeff Passan of ESPN on X. They are outfielder Matthew Etzel, right-hander Jackson Baumeister and utility player Mac Horvath.

Horvath and Baumeister both roughly top 20 prospects in the O's system. Etzel unranked.

Seems underwhelming, though Baumeister is having a nice season. This a rough outline for a Taillon trade?

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4 hours ago, We Got The Whole 9 said:

Should we try to get Baty? Basically the 3B equivalent of Busch. 25 next year, LH, improved discipline at AAA, 37% above average.

Busch put up video-game numbers in the minors and was available because he's blocked at the major league level by Freeman and Ohtani.

Baty isn't blocked by anybody on the Mets. He's just putting the ball on the ground all the time so he's almost completely unable to access his power. He needs a total swing rework, and as such is a fair bit riskier. Busch's only real risk was if he'd have a defensive home.

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1 minute ago, TomtheBombadil said:

 

Dynamic add to a loaded roster

Looks like Agustin Ramirez is the guy headlining the package. I actually quite liked him as an option if Taillon had ended up heading to New York.

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Augustin Ramirez and Jared Serna are the return for Jazz so far. Apparently one more player involved. Both are interesting prospects and the Marlins have nothing at catcher but feels like a light return, depending on the third prospect involved. Neither were in the Yankees top 10 on MLB or FG.

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44 minutes ago, Post Count Padder said:

Augustin Ramirez and Jared Serna are the return for Jazz so far. Apparently one more player involved. Both are interesting prospects and the Marlins have nothing at catcher but feels like a light return, depending on the third prospect involved. Neither were in the Yankees top 10 on MLB or FG.

The other prospect is Abrahan Ramirez, who is unranked in the Yankees system but is crushing rookie ball pitching.

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1 hour ago, Post Count Padder said:

Augustin Ramirez and Jared Serna are the return for Jazz so far. Apparently one more player involved. Both are interesting prospects and the Marlins have nothing at catcher but feels like a light return, depending on the third prospect involved. Neither were in the Yankees top 10 on MLB or FG.

I mean Jazz is a really average player

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I know they don't have much to sell off, but good god Jed are we really keeping this entire horsefeathers show together and just hoping for better results in '25?

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12 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

I know they don't have much to sell off, but good god Jed are we really keeping this entire horsefeathers show together and just hoping for better results in '25?

Still early yet.

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13 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

I know they don't have much to sell off, but good god Jed are we really keeping this entire horsefeathers show together and just hoping for better results in '25?

The deadline is tonight? Or are we giving a horsefeathers that we didn't land Jensen or something?

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Just now, We Got The Whole 9 said:

The deadline is tonight? Or are we giving a horsefeathers that we didn't land Jensen or something?

No, I'm watching other teams fill needs and take options off the board while Jed does his usual slow play schtick. Putting your back up against the wall of the deadline works against him just as much as it helps.

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41 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

No, I'm watching other teams fill needs and take options off the board while Jed does his usual slow play schtick. Putting your back up against the wall of the deadline works against him just as much as it helps.

Usual slow play schtick? His TDL deals have been mostly phenomenal. 

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Just now, mfcubs22 said:

Usual slow play schtick? His TDL deals have been mostly phenomenal. 

I never said they weren't, but he drags things out both in trades and in FA. 

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