2024 NFL Draft

[BigbadB]

36 minutes ago, jersey cubs fan said:

Although they are currently 1 and 5, the projections show them 1 and 8. It’s possible their own pick drops out of top 10. 

I'm hoping that their pick moves out of the top 10. I want to see this team get better and better to finish the season, including knocking the Packers out of the playoffs on the last week of the season.

[jersey cubs fan]

6 minutes ago, BigbadB said:

I'm hoping that their pick moves out of the top 10. I want to see this team get better and better to finish the season, including knocking the Packers out of the playoffs on the last week of the season.

I concur. I get why people cheer for losses in a tank situation, when your draft status is all you have and your losses directly affect your best option to improve next year. But when you already have another teams 1st rounder and that pick is essentially a lock for too 3, if you are still rooting for your team to lose you have problems. 

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4 hours ago, BigbadB said:

I'm hoping that their pick moves out of the top 10. I want to see this team get better and better to finish the season, including knocking the Packers out of the playoffs on the last week of the season.

Yeah with likely 1 or 2 in hand, likely out of range to take the best prospect in the draft (Harrison Jr), and no huge need for one of the top tackles (Alt, Fashanu).....the only benefit for picking 4 or 5 is to trade down, but then you'd also need someone willing to trade up for what is likely a non QB. I think the 8-10 range is prime trade up territory for anyone that wants to take the 3rd QB off the board.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I understand that Jones has been kinda ok and decent value for his draft spot.

 

But if we are in position to take an elite potential LT, which there to be two of in this draft, take one.

[jersey cubs fan]

2 minutes ago, Hairyducked Idiot said:

I understand that Jones has been kinda ok and decent value for his draft spot.

 

But if we are in position to take an elite potential LT, which there to be two of in this draft, take one.

I concur. It would be nice to make some part of this offense excellent, rather than just being satisfied with adequate production. The line is as good a spot as any, especially if you can’t make the WR top of the charts. 

[We Got The Whole 9]

I feel like we could get a 3rd or 4th for Jones, no? He has been penalized a lot but has kept the QB clean. He's been better lately overall.

[jersey cubs fan]

18 minutes ago, We Got The Whole 9 said:

I feel like we could get a 3rd or 4th for Jones, no? He has been penalized a lot but has kept the QB clean. He's been better lately overall.

I guess, but I might prefer keeping the swing tackle and letting another team give him money in free agency. 

[Tryptamine]

I've been adamant about wanting one of Alt/Fashanu with the Bear's pick, but I could definitely be sold on another good pass rusher like Laiatu Latu. With that said, the ultimate balls move based purely on upside over need would be Bowers.

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2 hours ago, Hairyducked Idiot said:

I understand that Jones has been kinda ok and decent value for his draft spot.

 

But if we are in position to take an elite potential LT, which there to be two of in this draft, take one.

He's been a top 10 OT in the league this year according to PFF. I'm all about getting as many elite players as possible, so I wouldn't complain at all about an OT pick, but you have to balance value/opportunity cost.

You draft a LT, you're replacing at least a league average OT. You draft another high value position such as WR, DE, DT you're replacing players where the Bears don't have above average production (talking WR2, DE2 so DJ & Sweat don't count) and just as importantly, are adding to a position where you want to rotate guys. 

You could move Braxton to guard or keep him at swing, but you have 2 solid guards under contract for next year. And while there will be injuries, it's not the best use of resources, IMO.

[BigbadB]

9 minutes ago, raw said:

He's been a top 10 OT in the league this year according to PFF. I'm all about getting as many elite players as possible, so I wouldn't complain at all about an OT pick, but you have to balance value/opportunity cost.

You draft a LT, you're replacing at least a league average OT. You draft another high value position such as WR, DE, DT you're replacing players where the Bears don't have above average production (talking WR2, DE2 so DJ & Sweat don't count) and just as importantly, are adding to a position where you want to rotate guys. 

You could move Braxton to guard or keep him at swing, but you have 2 solid guards under contract for next year. And while there will be injuries, it's not the best use of resources, IMO.

Agreed. Poles loves him some Braxton Jones, and outside of the penalties, which should be fixable, he has been right about that dude. It's why I honestly don't believe they will take a Tackle in that first round. They might draft one later if someone Poles likes is still there later. Free agency will answer a lot of questions about where to draft, and I'm guessing they take a C in round 3 if they don't fill it via free agency, and then a T soon after.

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They do need a swing tackle, though Borom has been OK there this year and is under contract for next. I'd really like to run It back with this OL other than C. Braxton is ascending, Jenkins is becoming an elite level OG, Davis has been good when healthy and his mom isn't dying, and Wright is potentially a future stud.

My thought is add a FA center, in what looks to be a good FA class. And then add a college G with some C flexibility in the 3rd round or if they are able to pick up a 2nd. Then potentially add a developmental OT in the 4th or 5th to compete with Borom and potentially take over at swing in 2025. I wouldn't complain about a vet here either. 

Jones-Jenkins-FA-Davis-Wright with Borom, vet FA, rookie G/C, Carter, rookie OT as depth.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I have never once, nor will I ever, care what PFF has to say. Braxton Jones is not a top-10 tackle.

[We Got The Whole 9]

I only see a 68 grade on his page. Am I missing something?

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Maybe Jones is top 10 in pass blocking or pressures allowed or something. I can't remember. But the point wasn't whether you give a horsefeathers or not about PFF or was it me arguing that he's a top 10 OT, in fact, I called him an "at least league average OT". Point is you'd be moving a solid, young player to the bench by taking an OT over drafting another premium position that not only has multiple guys rotate but also positions that stand to lose guys like Mooney, Ngakoue, and Justin Jones who aren't as good at their positions as Braxton Jones is.

[BigSlick]

I think the Bears don’t have enough depth anywhere where I’d be against drafting best-player-available with their own pick, depending on what they do with the Panthers pick. 
 

If that player so happens to be a Tackle - great! You can add a great talent you don’t need to immediately start and who will almost certainly see the field given the likelihood of injuries.

There are a handful of non-QB positions that have priority: Dline, Center, WR. I think you try to address those as much as you can while not neglecting who is on the board that you feel is an impact player. If there’s someone you feel is spectacular there (and probably not a DB bc at this point you’re pretty stacked with young talented guys) just get him.

[Brian707]

Patriots up on Pittsburgh 14-3! Hopefully they win tonight 

[Tryptamine]

21-3

[We Got The Whole 9]

I knew Mitch would repay us 

[PosterToBeNamedLater]

41 minutes ago, Brian707 said:

Patriots up on Pittsburgh 14-3! Hopefully they win tonight 

[Brian707]

45 minutes ago, We Got The Whole 9 said:

I knew Mitch would repay us 

[Irrelevant Dude]

I just realized the Bears get the Panthers second round pick in 2025 as well.  This is the trade that keeps on giving.  It is hard to believe this Panthers team will get substantially better next year, so that will likely be a very early second rounder to stack on top of everything else.

[jersey cubs fan]

1 minute ago, Irrelevant Dude said:

I just realized the Bears get the Panthers second round pick in 2025 as well.  This is the trade that keeps on giving.  It is hard to believe this Panthers team will get substantially better next year, so that will likely be a very early second rounder to stack on top of everything else.

It will be traded mid season 

[Tryptamine]

4 minutes ago, jersey cubs fan said:

It will be traded mid season 

Hopefully it's more Montez Sweat than it is Chase Claypool

[Derwood]

Marvin Harrison teasing that he might play another year for OSU would be the biggest kick in the nuts 

[gflore34]

Thinking about the draft, if the Bears pick from Carolina holds and they move on from Fields.  I don't believe Williams will have any problems with going to the Bears. Their roster is far better than a team who is normally picking number one, Poles will probably further improve upon it.  So, there's a good chance they'll have a winning record and be a playoff team.  For the record, I believe Poles is taking Maye, he has the pro to-typical QB size which I think is a point of emphasis for Poles.