General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

[sneakypower]

amazingly Brandon Guyer is at 3.5 WAR for his last 159 G plus he donged Jose Fernandez today, so i'm officially proclaiming we lost the Garza trade

(that's bad)

 

but it might have ultimately brought us Kris Bryant

(that's good!)

[Agony and Ivy]

amazingly Brandon Guyer is at 3.5 WAR for his last 159 G plus he donged Jose Fernandez today, so i'm officially proclaiming we lost the Garza trade

(that's bad)

 

but it might have ultimately brought us Kris Bryant

(that's good!)

 

Chris Archer already assured me the we lost the Garza trade.

[sneakypower]

[Sammy Sofa]

I thought everyone looked at that trade as a bust for a while now.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

COUNTERPOINT

 

Archer: 10.6 fWAR in 103 starts, currently leaking command on the path to arm surgery like a junker car leaks oil

 

Hendricks: 6.1 fWAR in 53 starts, only looks like a ventriloquist doll from *some* angles

[sneakypower]

that was Dempster...

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Yes but they easily could have gotten him in the Garza deal the week before and probably were more familiar with him due to scouting the system for Garza-specific purposes.

 

Also that was a very serious post.

[Cubswin11]

Moustakas has a torn ACL which occurred in a collison with Gordon in which Gordon broke his wrist.

[Tim]

Moustakas has a torn ACL which occurred in a collison with Gordon in which Gordon broke his wrist.

And *boom* goes KC's season.

[BigSlick]

Moustakas has a torn ACL which occurred in a collison with Gordon in which Gordon broke his wrist.

Jesus.

[JudasIscariotTheBird]

Glad I bet the season-long under on KC. Get well soon, injured people I've never met.

[imb]

COUNTERPOINT

 

Archer: 10.6 fWAR in 103 starts, currently leaking command on the path to arm surgery like a junker car leaks oil

 

Hendricks: 6.1 fWAR in 53 starts, only looks like a ventriloquist doll from *some* angles

 

if only we knew when hendricks would inevitably turn into randy wells

[Clem Fandango]

Nomar Mazara hit a home run the other day that Statcast labeled as having a projected distance of 491 ft. He hit it above the exits on the upper deck in RF. The discrepancy between that and Home Run Tracker is huge. Even with HRT's "TrueDistance" meter it estimated its distance at 453 feet. Given how far the ball's landing spot actually was from the fence distance he hit it over (about 350 feet)... I'm starting think Statcast has home run distances all wrong, all the time.

 

I mean the link above is Mazara's "491" foot home run, which HRT labeled at 453 feet.

 

Statcast labeled this Stanton home run as 475 feet, but it's HRT longest home run of the year so far at 490.

 

If you had a gun to your head and had to decide which home run ball was hit farther, you pick Stanton 11 times out of 10.

 

I do not have any faith in Statcast's HR distance tracking metrics at all. I know this is a weird crusade to start, but I love watching dingers after the day is over and I keep up with all this stuff and it upsets me to see a ball that was hit well into the upper deck in the RF of a short field is being considered hit further than a ball crushed to deep left center in an enormous pitchers park.

[soccer10k]

Yeah, Stanton's HR definitely went further. There's the 427 sign out there but that's about 50 feet closer to the LF pole. Add a few feet for Stanton's since the fence goes out further and call it 440. But it lands on top of a wall that's at least 30 feet high. Plus Stanton's appeared to be more of a liner while Mazara's had a bit more loft to it if were looking at true distance.

 

On the measurement of Stanton's, I could see either one being right. But no way was Mazara's 491. Even before your post, I've felt some of Statcast's measurements have been off as well.

[NonProfitCow]

Fell into the youtube rabbit hole of late 90's early 00's highlights. Hitters were so far ahead it was silly. Forget steroids, those guys were teeing off on 87-88 mph "fastballs."

[Tim]

Fell into the youtube rabbit hole of late 90's early 00's highlights. Hitters were so far ahead it was silly. Forget steroids, those guys were teeing off on 87-88 mph "fastballs."

Kyle Hendricks resents your implication there, bud.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

The Pirates can eff right off about now.

[Careless]

The Reds have a combined team WAR of -3.1

[imb]

freaking dying

 

[Transmogrified Tiger]

The Pirates can eff right off about now.

 

I dunno, I kinda want them to keep going so by the end of next week they have the 2nd best record and baseball and are still 5 games back. Imagine the players their fans will want to throw at.

[Little Slide Rooter]

amazingly Brandon Guyer is at 3.5 WAR for his last 159 G plus he donged Jose Fernandez today, so i'm officially proclaiming we lost the Garza trade

(that's bad)

 

but it might have ultimately brought us Kris Bryant

(that's good!)

 

Chris Archer already assured me the we lost the Garza trade.

 

Question: if we'd gotten the same as we did out of Matt Garza in a time when the Cubs weren't completely useless, would we be looking at the trade as a loss? On the other side of that coin, Rich Harden gave us an excellent year and a half-ish in a time when it mattered. He did, however, cost us Josh Donaldson (a fact that I'm surprised how many Cubs fans are completely unaware of.) Was that trade a loss? And I get that Archer was more more well regarded than Donaldson at the time, but he was far from a sure thing. And we were able to salvage Kyle Hendricks out of Garza.

 

What does sting a bit is that (allegedly) it was our choice between Archer and Trey McNutt, and we opted to keep Trey.

[mul21]

What amazes me is how many times it's been posted that the Archer/Mcnutt thing is false and you still haven't gotten it.

[Banedon]

The Pirates can eff right off about now.

 

I dunno, I kinda want them to keep going so by the end of next week they have the 2nd best record and baseball and are still 5 games back. Imagine the players their fans will want to throw at.

 

We should start a pool as to which pitcher the Pirates will lose to in the WC game.

[wvcbxl]

No team in worldwide pro sports history has been stopped from winning it all 107 consecutive years. Only the flubs. They are losers.

 

Just in case anyone wants a retort whenever such nonsense is spewed: Preston North End's last championship was in 1890; their 125 year drought is the longest is "worldwide pro sports history". :roll:

[Banedon]

No team in worldwide pro sports history has been stopped from winning it all 107 consecutive years. Only the flubs. They are losers.

 

Just in case anyone wants a retort whenever such nonsense is spewed: Preston North End's last championship was in 1890; their 125 year drought is the longest is "worldwide pro sports history". :roll:

 

This is america, sir. "Worldwide" ends at our borders.